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A Tree Grows In Boston

What's in A Name?

Boston Holiday TreeThanksgiving is over.  And I hope we all had something to be thankful for.  Now that our bellies are full we can all get ready to empty our wallets as we speed towards the December "Holidays."  It's almost time for Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanzaa and, perhaps some other holiday I don't yet know about.

These past few weeks there's been a lot of hoopla in Massachusetts (where else) about the possible renaming of a certain "Christmas Tree." 

Yup, those folks in charge of  "stuff" are trying to decide if the official state "Christmas Tree" should instead be called a "Holiday Tree" (to better include other religions and secularists during the "Holiday Season."

And they better decide fast...it was cut down late last week and is on its way to be trimmed and topped as we speak.

As Mayor Mennino and Governor Romney point out the pros and cons of such a change, other politicians are "skittishly" taking (or not taking sides) on this one.  Changing the name of this tree could get "sticky" around election time.  Personally, if I were a politician anywhere near Boston I think I'd be, "Unreachable at my winter vacation home in the Bahamas until Jan. 3rd." 

That's not to say that as "Citizen Rapp" I have not had a thought or two of my own on this controversial subject.

I'm actually amused ... although a bit concerned.  I'm amused by what appears to be the silliness of the whole thing... and concerned by the inherent complications and underlying consequences of any decision that would change the name of such a beloved icon.                                                            

My God!  The "Christmas Tree" could end up another symbol for the separation of Church and State

Holiday Complications                                                                               

Grinch Alert:  Holy goodness,  "Merry Christmas," itself may be in danger!   

Although many people still send out Christmas cards, others have, for many years already, chosen to send out secular cards with sayings like, "Seasons Greetings" or "Happy Holidays."  It's all about sharing good will... and not offending anyone.

When I was growing up, not too many Christians sent, "Merry Christmas" cards to their Jewish friends.  And as far back as I can recollect, Jews  never sent out Happy Chanukah cards to their Gentile friends either.  I mean Chanukah and Christmas are never very far apart on the yearly calendar, but in a religious sense you might say, they've got more than a few "testaments" between them.

But, somewhere during the middle of a last century December (probably during the Sixties), some Americans started sending friends of differing faiths more and more "secular" cards, with simple wishes for a happy holiday.  It just seemed the thing to do.  I mean that whole era brought more people of different faiths and creeds together to work and play than at any other time in our history.  People just wanted to show respect and love for each other at holiday time without crossing any religious boundaries that were foreign to them.  Secular cards just seemed "politcally correct."

And this seemed to work for quite a while... except for the "purists" (both Christian and Jewish).  To them it would always be either Christmas or Chanukah.  One or the other.  Not both!  But that was OK too.  There's nothing wrong with being traditional about certain things.  Let some people celebrate the "Holidays" ... and let others observe their religious traditions.  Live and let live.  And Hallmark wins no matter what the card says.

Now we have another December celebration:  Kwanzaa.                                     

This is not a religious, but a "cultural" holiday, celebrating African Americans.  It seems like a fine holiday to me, but I think a lot of people just wish Kwanzaa wasn't also in December.
Nothing racist meant  (Many African Americans are Christian and Jewish as well as other religions), but it does sort of complicate what is already a double sided holiday card by adding yet another page to it.  And I have to ask (feel free to let me know), is Kwanzaa in December because it's based on any old African traditions, the winter Solstice, or some ancient custom?  Or is it possible that some clever Madison Avenue types added it to the growing "consumerism" that's been attacking all American religious and cultural holidays (Be My Valentine?) for years?  I'm just curious.

And what about everybody else who's not Jewish, Christian or African American?  What about the  Hindus, Buddhists, Native Americans, Taoists and Muslims?  Do they feel "left out" or will they ask for some winter "Holiday" time too?  Well, December looks a little crowded for the moment.  Hmmm.... I think we might have a nice opening sometime in February or perhaps March?

I mean I can totally understand why some people have thrown their hands up in the air after trying hard to hold onto their old traditions.  It's not easy keeping things the same in a changing world. But, there's a very thin line between trying to hold on to benign forms of tradition, and certain virulent forms of fundamentalism that can quietly creep in, folding back on itself like a Black Hole trying to close all the doors behind it.  And if one of those Black Holes (in the form of some radical religious group) starts wanting to run public policy in favor of their own group, you usually end up having to deal with that pesky, "Separation of Church and State" Constitutional amendment thing.

But, let's not ruin the day by jumping ahead.  The Supreme Court top ten list discussion can wait for another time (Like when we're discussing abstract notions of Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu and Native American Presidents).  Sadly, Muslims are temporarily off the waiting list for this century.

The Way We Were

I'm sure many of you Bay Staters already know that the very religious Puritans did not even celebrate Christmas. They considered it an abomination to throw parties, give gifts or pass around the eggnog like the rest of the growing colonial world was beginning to do to celebrate the birth of baby Jesus.

And when visitors (even other Christians) from New York, Rhode Island and other such, "worldly" places brought back some of the new and increasingly popular "American" Christmas customs, they were told to ignore these wicked practices or they'd burn in hell.
I have no doubt they would have hung Santa as a witch ... had he shown up in Salem wearing his red suit and carrying a bag of gifts back in 1630. 

Oh Christmas Tree, Oh Christmas Tree

The "Christmas Tree," custom (with all its lights, bells and whistles) was actually only brought to America by Northern European Immigrants in the mid 1800s.  Evergreen trees had been part of old pagan winter solstice celebrations and holidays (like Saturnalia) for centuries back in the old country.  And when these people eventually became Christians, they just incorporated their beloved holiday trees right into their new religion (Cut down a tree for Jesus! Hallelujah!).

Hey, these colorful people also brought St. Nicholas, Santa Claus, Father Christmas and a bunch of elves with them when they later crossed the pond to the new world.  Now who doesn't love them and that great Toy Shop at the North Pole?

But allowing old "Tannenbaum" a prominent place in the celebration of the birth of Jesus was a very clever move by the Church.  Convincing Northern Europe and Britain to convert to Christianity was much easier when the people were allowed to keep some of their Celtic/Wiccan/Pagan holiday customs (although toned down and properly directed) like their Winter Tree. 
It was a compromise of sorts.  A good one (This idea worked well with many other cultures around the world as well).  Everyone was happy ... well, most of the time anyway.

So, is the Christmas tree really a religious symbol?  Or just a pagan leftover?  Heck, I'm even willing to wager that Santa Claus and Jesus never even met!

You Light Up My Street

As for Christmas.  The birth of Jesus.  The Christ Mass.  That's another story.
This truly is a very holy occasion for many in the world.  Lots of people actually still go to Midnight Mass on the Eve of the event and spend the following day gathered with extended family for a simple, traditional, Christmas dinner.

But for others?  Well, it's just a darned good reason to get on the "Birthday Bandwagon" and party from Thanksgiving until Dec. 26th.  Yee-ha!  You know it's begun when suddenly the houses on your block start to light up. One of my neighbors threw the switch yesterday, at dusk (While I was still eating leftover turkey and cranberry sauce).  That dilapidated old house looks like it may fall down any minute ... but they've got those strings of Christmas lights up and running!  Truthfully, the lights actually make the place look more habitable (daylight brings back grim reality).

Some people decorate for Christmas very tastefully.  Maybe a well trimmed wreath on the door, a few well placed non blinking white bulbs. A single candle in the window.  Classic.
But for others?  Look out ... It's showtime! Don't you just love your neighbor's nightly display of tawdry, twinkling, red and green light bulbs timed to the dancing and prancing of reindeers, elves and little snowmen all over the front lawn?  Come on ... It rocks!

RudolphNot to be outdone, what about that twenty foot tall Rudolph with the enormous red "Neon Nose" in front of the house directly across the street from you? He's lighting up your block like Times Square on New Year's Eve.  Zzzzzzt ....  Zzzzzzt... Oh Lord ... Rudolph seems to have a short in his left nostril ... but what the heck, they're gonna leave him on anyway ... and he's right across from your bedroom window.  "Rudee!  Rudee!  Rudee."

And who needs headlights when the dark street you're driving down suddenly lights up with the glow of a 25 foot high Super-Sized Santa, rocking back and forth and waving at you from his "Snow Covered Space Sleigh" atop some guys roof?  Hell, there's enough light coming from a thing like that to play a game of street hockey at midnight.  It's got enough blinkers and blonkers on it to be seen from space! But, then again, people do feel somewhat redeemed from the madness if they can find a small spot to stick a nice manger scene in the middle of all this razzle dazzle.  Although, I've also seen some manger scenes that look like Spielberg productions.  "Jesus, call home."

It's What's Inside That Counts

Back inside the house stands the beloved Christmas tree.  They've gotten a little pricey lately.  Have you noticed?  But so what, right? It's Christmas. Go for it!  What's one car payment more or less when you think of all the joy it will bring?

Now some people still like go the traditional way, simply threading popcorn around the modest Dutch Elm ... trimmed with the traditional candles that end up causing all the traditional Christmas fires every year. 
Others love the modern approach.  Lots of pretty, personalized ornaments, colored balls, ropes of garland, tons of tinsel (watch the cat) and hundreds of tiny little electric light bulbs crisscrossed around the big Blue Spruce.  Some prefer the star on top ... others like the angel.

Either way, just remember to unplug all the those pretty little lights at bedtime, or you and your neighbor with the popcorn may be trading Yule Log stories standing in your frozen underwear at 4 AM while waiting for the fire engines.

And those of you who have the synthetic, reusable trees with the new fibre optic lights? You're pretty safe ... even if you forget about everything and pass out from the punch.
But, no matter what type of tree you have, the best part is that there will hopefully be lots of presents under it on Christmas morning.

An interesting phenomenon to also ponder at this time of year is something called, "Christmas Tree Envy."  This usually happens to Jewish kids, but it can be found in other non Christian religions as well.  It stems from never having had a holiday tree as a child (Yet seeing them looking ever so beautiful and magical while visiting friends).

Occasionally, when these (obviously unorthodox) Jewish kids become adults, they finally feel free to do what mom and dad never allowed:  Bringing home a nice Scotch Pine and trimming it from top to bottom to their hearts content.  The trick seems to be in calling it a "Chanukah Bush."  Somehow that transforms it into some kind of  hybrid that can "almost" be explained to their kids, or anyone else who may seem puzzled (I have even seen Chanukah Bushes with dreidel ornaments on them).

This is true. I wouldn't kid you.  Some Jewish folks love the lights and razzle dazzle just as much as your wild and crazy Christian neighbors!  But, there is kind of a limit to how far even a Reform Jew can take this.  So, many settle for just a nice big lavish tree inside, and one modest electric menorah in the window.  Look, some things (like twinkling lights and bells and whistles) transcend all religious, ethnic and cultural boundaries...

Shop 'Til You Drop

There are lots of people that think the "Holidays" are just a time for good cheer and nondenominational shopping.  Shopping?  To celebrate the birth of Jesus? To celebrate the miracle of the eight days of burning oil called Chanukah? To celebrate African Pride?
You bet!   Check the Malls.  I was out there myself first thing Friday afternoon.  I got a great deal on some toy ponies and dump trucks for the kids.  Hey, I had to go.  All the good stuff may be gone by next week.

If you don't buy the kids, the wife, the husband, even the boss a gift, you're going to be in the "Christmas/Chanukah/Holiday/Seasonal" dog house!  Woof!  Actually, gift wrapped pet toys, cookies and even clothing for your best friends dog or cat has become quite the rage.

This is big business folks.  We all need to get with the program and buy as much as we can, spend as much as we have, and "Give" 'til it hurts.  Merchants are waiting to hear from you now.  Pick up a phone, click onto a website, interact with your home cable system;  There are people standing by to take your orders (and you can still get delivery before Christmas).
Just accept that for the next four weeks, we belong to the advertisers, the retailers and the American economy!  Act accordingly and this country stays solvent.  Let your spending "Trickle Down" to those that need it ... as well as those that don't.

You don't want to be the one responsible for a bad economic quarter, do you?  Do your civic duty!  Buy lots of stuff!

Just remember, whether you celebrate Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Saturnalia or a nice simple Solstice ... it's really just semantics to Corporate America.  The real religious values of Christmas and Chanukah are still there for those that want them. They always have been.  And anyone who is very devout and pious, probably would not (or perhaps should not)  get too involved with national holiday obsessions over Santa Claus, (Hanukkah Harry, if you watch SNL), Elves, Snowmen, Pagan Icons, electric light shows and boisterous buying frenzies anyway.  Don't you think?

But,  for the rest of the population?   
'Tis the Season!  Ho Ho Ho and Chai Chai Chai... Whether you send out "Holiday" or "Christmas" cards ... just send them with lots of love and wishes for a good new year.  If you want to enclose a check, be my guest ...  and thank you very much.
Throw a party, buy gourmet food and a nice bottle of top shelf booze.  Be generous and spread some cheer.  Give everyone that works for you a bonus so they can go out and spend some too.
If you receive a bonus ... be sure to blow it all before New Year's Eve.  And use your credit cards too.  It's American as apple pie.  These days it's actually downright patriotic!

Go buy a Christmas tree!  Buy two.  Get yourself a nice Chanukah Bush while you're at it.  Real or fake, buy the biggest one you can, and decorate the heck out of it with lots of gorgeous ornaments and lovely lights.  Then wrap as many wonderful gifts as you can with lots of bows and ribbons ... and tuck them all under that tree for those you love.

So, is it a Christmas tree?  You bet.    Is it the "Christmas Season?" You bet.  Is it also the  "Holiday Season" (sure).  Other than that I haven't got a clue what the fuss is all about.  But, whatever you celebrate, enjoy it.  It only happens once a year. And, as the old saying goes, "Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow waits for no man.
                                   
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 ***To paraphrase Dave Letterman, have fun because, "We all may be dead from Bird Flu by next year anyway."

UPDATE - Dec. 1st: Washington DC lit up the National  "Christmas" Tree this week, after it's own debate on the subject.   I was sure I heard the tree "debate, was also settled in Boston but the final result is as confusing as the reason it all started.  Mayor Mennino insists he lit a Christmas Tree tonight, but Parks Commissioner, Antonia Pollak, was quoted on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s Web site Wednesday as saying the Blue Spruce, a gift from Nova Scotia, was dubbed a, "Holiday Tree" because, “A lot of people celebrate various religious holidays but also enjoy the lights, and we’re trying to be inclusive.”  As it stands now, the renaming back to a "Christmas Tree" will have to wait for next year.   Channel Five reported in the first half of their broadcast tonight that the "Holiday Tree" lighting was, "coming up soon," and then referred to it later in the same show as the as the, "64th annual Christmas Tree Lighting."   Well, whatever it is, it sure looked good.  And, remember:  This blog is your official source  for any future public Chanukah Bush Lightings for Cape Cod and all points north to Boston.

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11/27/05 @ 8:23 pm
Magical Eye [Member] writes:
I loved you post! Thank you for a great pre-Christmas or whatever holiday present. Will you still send one again on the whenever or whatever it is holiday?
11/27/05 @ 8:39 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Magical Eye:

TY and HO HO HO.
I shall return...


JCRapp/RappCity
11/27/05 @ 8:40 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
Rapp - Actually, the Christmas tree as we know it became popular in the 1830's, as Prince Albert brought it to England when he married Queen Victoria. The Druids and Wiccans were pretty much tamed by then, so it really wasn't a sop to them. I'm sure you know that Thomas Nast created the modern Santa Claus in the late 1800's, along with the Donkey and the Elephant.

I'm old enough to remember when the Nativity scene on the Boston Common featured live animals - one year, a camel - to visit after viewing the windows at Jordan's and Filene's and refreshing yourself with a lime rickey at Bailey's.

Now, the USPS has decided against selling religious stamps, and we have a holiday tree. Why not just cancel the whole thing on a legal basis? IF not, then call it by its name for those of us (not as few as you imply) who go to church for CHRISTMAS.
11/27/05 @ 9:17 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
PeterP:

Albert and Victoria seem to have begun enjoying their tree around the same time it arrived over here. Hmmm... there must be some connection. ;>

Although the modern version of Santa may have been updated in the 1800's (along with a new name), the old fellow was culled from old legends and folklore melded together from at least half a dozen countries across Europe. Some of his "posse of elves" and eventually those reindeer joined him along his journey through the ages.
He was introduced in to Rudolph in the USA by Cowboy Gene Autry.

Ahh... Camels and Christmas. If you toss in that donkey, it comes closer to what the first Christians in the Middle East probably saw than anything we in the west have since come up with since.

And that mean old Post Office! Talk about Grinches!
As for me, I think there's plenty of room for Christmas to be celebrated both in Church AND with a Lime Rickey, just like you used to do yourself (after viewing the department store windows).

Smile. :) It's Christmas.


JCRapp/RappCity
11/27/05 @ 9:22 pm
hohoho [Visitor] writes:
Point of truth, every holiday,(holyday) has been co-opted by Christianity. Don't get me wrong, I am a believer. I also find time for other beliefs, and see precious few that allow alternative thought. Think Zen.
'the last unicorn', by peter beagle was instructive.
Not one of our 'Christian' holidays is based upon Christianity.
So, I am instructed to perceive the lie of the mind. Every religion is based upon a huge pile. Witness, (get it?) Mormonism, Scientology, evangelisim, etc. I am not nasaying anyone, or any belief. I know children of God. I am one of them. But look behind the myth, and see. Lots of us like to just get along. Progenitors of these religions might be shocked that what they created to feed their families has caused so much grief.
I still love Christmas. I especially love the fact that it is based upon a pagan concept.
We must make a sacrifice to bring the light back. A king for a day, or twelve, and he can have any woman. Then, off with his head!
Remember, the twelve days of Christmas actually start that day. Twelfth night, the eve of epiphany.
11/27/05 @ 9:46 pm
epiphany [Visitor] writes:
Do you see how the Christmas music ends on the 26th? Christmas is the start of the same transition the pagans celebrated, and by celebration, we bring the new year. I can't stand the commercialism that is Christmas now. I sing until epiphany. But what of my Jewish friends, of whom Christ was?
This now, that we all denigrate, is the new layer, that is on the old layer. It's the same old song, or saw.
So call it Kwanzaa, http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/bpp110569a_p7.htm
this is one post on the man who created this now iconographic event.
Makes me winch at cutting a tree.
Are we not all so flawed?
I will celebrate, and make my peace, while I am able. I will not subscribe to any belief that purports lock step following. I have seen the results.
Merry Christmas, to one, and all
11/27/05 @ 11:42 pm
My Two Cents [Visitor] writes:
I am certainly no expert, but in my few decades on this Earth I have learned that Christmas is supposedly a celebration of Christ's birth, but really it was invented as a remedy to the cold, harsh, bitter, terrible winter months.
References in the Bible regarding Shepards looking over their flock give you one clue: It's cold @ night in Israel in December!.. not just here.
They would NOT have been out there. There is also the miscalculation of one of the monk scribes of the Bible. He was off by some 4 months, making Christ's birth in April. Christmas was to lift the spirits during harsh times.
Jesus' B-day is not in December.
I also need to express one problem with a previous response. Druids and Wiccans, TAMED? They are people, not animals. Not nice, Mr. P., since your revered wreath and Christmas tree are ancient phallic symbols. Look it up.
Gives new meaning to the phrase,
"Ho, Ho, Ho!"
11/28/05 @ 8:26 am
Cape Gal [Visitor] writes:
Thanks JP..great blog as usual! Loved the humor and the reality.I have a large store with 2 big windows in one of these Bergs on Cape; but, feel reluctant to even decorate them for this new corporate type money celebration anymore! (except for what I hold in my heart). Is it too late to protest and take our world back! At least 30 years ago it was still a visual fun-time for kids....gosh...I still hold my holidays in my heart..but hate corporatism. Was nice when the world over still had religion...holy days...holidays and counties. Seems to be a world ruled by the privateer wolves at the World Bank..(Soon all of the ever-greens will be privateered after our water rights ...we'll have to pay really big bucks for pink bunnies this coming Easter...Jesus who?
11/28/05 @ 9:22 am
Magical Eye [Member] writes:
JC
About Kwanzaa... It is a holiday invented by a College Professor specifically to coinside with the Christmas Holidays to add a celebration of culture to the mix.
11/28/05 @ 11:10 am
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
hohoho:

I know many people that now look at religion as you now do.
I have always loved reading up on "other" religions. As a matter of fact, Comparative Religion was one of my favorite college courses.

But, those that truly believe in traditional ways should always be respected for those beliefs.
Unfortunately, traditional believers often are offended and perhaps even threatened by people who do not choose a particluar relgion (especially the one feeling offended) to join. Although many unaffiliated folks share a strong belief in God, they are often, sadly, harassed and chastised by those who do "belong." It's ironic. Those that themselves have been persecuted can often become the persecutors.

I am sure God will sort it all out and all the many entrance gates to Heaven.

As for sacrifice: I think I discovered it earliest origins this summer in my garden.
I had one tomato partially eaten by bugs, so I plucked it, then left it stuck between the vines as a 'sacrifice" to the bugs (hoping they would leave the rest of the vine alone). I ended up doing it with a pepper or two a
11/28/05 @ 12:09 pm
Brian [Visitor] writes:
This is retarded, a Christmas tree is what it is!

What are they going to call Advent Wreaths? Circular sticks to hang on your door?
11/28/05 @ 12:14 pm
AV [Visitor] writes:
loved your post. wish i could forward it to a few fundamentaists i know but they'd be insulted. :) i happen to be Wiccan but love Christmas. i put my tree up the day after Thanksgiving. i think we have to face the fact that there are two christmases. the religious one and the secular one (with santa and rudolf and frosty and spiked eggnog). these things have nothing to do with religion these days and so no one should be insulted or offended by them. and if someone still needs to insist that all of christmas is christian then since the christians have, over the years, stolen lots of pagan traditions, i have no problem stealing a few of theirs too. they can consider it ... a christmas gift.
11/28/05 @ 12:19 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
Brian - they would rather bask in and study pagan drivel then admit that they want to celebrate a religious holiday. This resembles the basis of all situational ethics, which has done so much for society as a whole. On another thread, a person piously said that mayby the WORDS weren't in the law, but that was its spirit! If she feels it, then it MUST be true (and for those feeling otherwise, why they can enforce the law the way they want, too - right?).

I hope they are planning to be buried with pieces of silver for the ferryman, too.
11/28/05 @ 12:42 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
epiphany:
The music stopped because the "celebration" of the "Winter Solstice" was over for the Pagans. The shortest day of the year, Dec 21st, is now known as the first day of winter. Many think STONEHENGE was a calendar to calculate the winter and spring solstices.

And yes, Christ was indeed a Jew. He followed traditional Jewish law (Except, for those new ideas that upset his elders). His disciples were Jews too (with a few conflicting stories about Paul). I've have never really been convinced he wanted to start a new religion, just maybe bring some enlightenment to the old one. His followers "evolved" it all into a new one.
People forget that for the first 50 -100 years after Jesus died most "Christians" were Jews. The "Christians" tossed to the Lions existed closer to 200 -300 AD - prior to the conversion of Rome.
You're right that It's important to remind people of what binds us together. A religion based on that early "connection" exists today. "Messianic Jews" (often called "Jews for Jesus") are, however, not well liked by mainstream Jews or Christians. A shame...
Merry Christmas!
JCRapp/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 1:03 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
Saul aka Paul was NOT a disciple, but became a follower of Christ many years after His death. For those who still set foot into churches, as opposed to breezy Druid groves, the music does NOT stop on Dec. 26 - you are perhaps confused by the practices in your temple, the Simon Malls.

BTW - JC - look at tht photo - I thought OUR dome was gold...
11/28/05 @ 1:13 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
My Two Cents:

You are quite right about those winters in the Holy Land.
And the annual "Census" day that the Roman occupiers of biblical Israel demanded was generally held AFTER the last harvests of the season. Asking people like Joseph and Mary to travel long distances, while crops were still in the ground, would have been stupid of the Romans to ask...especially since they lived on a share of them.

So, late September, is the guess many scholars have generally come to accept as the real birth of Jesus. It also coincides with other post harvest holidays in the Old Testament like the Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashona), and the soon to follow "Succoth," the Jewish Harvest Feast, about a week or so later.

As I said in my original blog, the Mother Church was very smart when it came to letting some pagan traditions remain in order to get converts. Those festive Saturnalia/Solstice celebrations were not about to be given up by the masses. So a new "inclusive" birthday was found for Jesus, and it just "happened" to fall in the middle of people already celebrating.
I don't think (and neither did the Church obviously) that the actual day of Christ's birth was as important as acknowledging that it happened.

Enjoy the day...
JCRapp/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 1:43 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Cape Gal:
"Corporatism" ...what a great new word. TY for it. But, unfortunately what it means is not so great. I hear you loud and clear.

Sadly, it may be too late to take back what corporate America has done. Many of us even helped them too, by "Buying" into everything they offered (literally).
You can't just blame the World Bank.
Who, in this mad society, has time to knit a sweater or mittens ... or build a playhouse for the kids? It's easier to just hit the mall for a five foot tall stuffed giraffe and an i-Pod.
If everyone had just stayed home in the first place....singing Christmas carols around the old Spinet and sharing a cup of "homemade" egg nog with grandpa (who is now "Snowbirding" back and forth from Florida...and only here for summer) this might not have spun so out of control in the first place.

But hey...how about a MALL BOYCOTT for those who want to take back Christmas? Everyone stay home next year and make your own presents. Invite friends over to trim the tree and watch "It's a Wonderful Life" (Black and white version only).
Let's see if you can actually withstand the pressures thrown at you from magazines, internet ads, circulars, TV and radio, billboards, credit card companies and...your kids!
Oh, and look out for that old Easter Bunny ...He's coming to get ya soon!

Merry Merry...
JCRapp/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 2:14 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Magical Eye:
Thanks for the info. I had a feeling it was something like that.
I thought we had enough culture for December the way things were, including African Americans of various faiths, but, as I wrote, I worry what's next.
At least TRY ANOTHER MONTH PLEASE!

Brian:
I actually agree. What next? "Tops" instead of dredels for Chanukah?
Merry Christmas. :)

AV:
Thanks or stopping by.
If I have insulted, invigorated, enlightened or involved people in discussion..I have done my job. :)
Enjoy your Wiccan ways and a very "Happy Holidays" to you.

Peter:
We may agree or disagree about what is an appropriate name for a Christmas tree, or how corporate America may have latched onto religious holidays, but there is no need to use a term like "drivel" when talking about someone elses beliefs, be they Pagan, Wiccan, Buddhist, Hindu, Native American or anything else they choose to believe in.
Let's keep this at a higher level that that. TY

JCRapp/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 2:15 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
Some children aren't greedy monsters, JC. For instance, we have never owned a video-game system, and we have only one TV in the house to ensure that children learn compromise at a youg age.

I walked through the mall when they remodeled, and came to the conclusion I wasn't missing anything.

You are describing a stereotypical co-opted lifestyle, and try to make it appear normal and inevitable. It is neither.
11/28/05 @ 2:23 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
To All:

I am just now seeing a photo on our page that looks to be the Washington DC Tree.
We're working on it....

JCRapp/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 3:16 pm
Great Gadfly [Visitor] writes:
WHOWHOWHO?
Planned Parenthood doesn't like Christmas because of "Virgin" and "Birth". The ACLU doesn't like Christmas because they are paid not to and because it might encourage people to stand on principals, thereby preventing others from telling them what to thinkl and how to express their beliefs. AARP opposes Christmas unless they can somehow make money from it. Islam opposes Christmas because life without jihad is simply not worth living and because a virgin birth requires seventy virgins.Jesse Jackson opposes Christmas because he's left out of the trinity. Greenpeace opposes Christmas because it continues the slaughter of millions of innocent trees. Walmart and other big box operators oppose Christmas Day store closings but support the Godless mass consumption the holiday brings them. The French oppose Christmas because Americans enjoy it. Reindeer sqawk about Christmas exploitation. With so musch misery around us can't we just smile, say a heartfelt "Merry Christmas" and for one day of the year feel the hope and love of that ancient kresch scene?
11/28/05 @ 3:47 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
PeterP:

Compromise is a good thing to learn young. Although I can't say I would forbid young kids the chance to play video games, I do think limiting (and especially supervising) what they play, and for how long, does matter a lot! Too many parents just use these games and TV's as babysitters!
And kids today are constantly bombarded by ads for the "latest" and "newest" gadgets and gizmo's and toys. Not to mention junk food.

When we were kids and mom said, "Go out and play," we did. Gladly.
We climbed trees, rode bikes, or sat on the front step reading a comic book (in those days you had to know how to read to get through Superman).
Tell a kid these days to go "out and play" and watch some just stand in the street without a clue as to how to amuse themselves.
That's sad. But it says a lot about our "consumeristic" society.
I agree that not all households have fallen to that sterotypical level though, and there are some great parents and kids still out there. But far too many are caught in the "traps."

JCRapp2005/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 4:02 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Gadfly:

While I completely disagree with your assessment of Planned Parenthood's views on "virgins" and "birth", as well as ACLU members being paid to oppose religion, I just might be tempted to agree with you about AARP (Of which I am, of course, too young to even be a member).

***Fun is fun folks, but again, I want to remind you that picking on other religions is not appropriate in my comment space.
I ask again for this intelligent, witty, educated group of readers and writers to please refrain from singling out and maligning people of other Faiths besides their own.
I would hate to start "editing" and removing comments. It would take a lot of the fun out of our "discourse."
Thanks

JCRapp2005/RappCity
11/28/05 @ 5:10 pm
gladys [Visitor] writes:
Peter P. I can never guess if you're quelling or quilling!
11/28/05 @ 5:13 pm
cape Gal [Visitor] writes:
Peter P....hmmmmm...our State House has a gold dome...whatdaya think that means.
11/28/05 @ 6:38 pm
Brian [Visitor] writes:
I don't care if it's a pagan, wicken, jewish, Muslim, Buddhist or atheist tradition. A Christmas tree is a Christmas tree and anyone who tries to call it something else is a scrooge!

Really, isn't this really all about ruining someone else's good time? They did the same crap to halloween.
11/29/05 @ 11:23 am
Gabby [Visitor] writes:
JP as always I love your humor. You left out one decoration....the 20ft high snowman, santa whatever that when the switch is turned off...you have this little pile of plastic on your front lawn....soooooo attractive LOL
11/29/05 @ 5:04 pm
Gabby [Visitor] writes:
I"m still laughing....I love the humor. But don't forget the 20ft inflatable that when the power is turned off... s little puddle of plastic.....soooo attractive LOL LOL
11/29/05 @ 5:07 pm
Gabby [Visitor] writes:
opps sorry didn't realize the first one had posted
12/01/05 @ 2:31 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
All:
I am please to announce (as you may have already heard) that our Boston Christmas Tree is, and shall, for the forseeable future remain: A Christmas Tree.
The Washington D.C. Tree has also returned to its original name as well.

Rockefeller Center in NYC lit up their Christmas Tree up this week in a primetime Special. There has never been a question about the name of that tree (one of the most famous in the world), but, of course, even though it is one of New York City's shining jewels, Rockeller Center and it's tree are still on private property.

So be happy at last ..all of you who thought you had lost your tree. It remains. It stands tall and it's beautiful.

Also remember at election time that our Governor, Mr. Romney, was among those that considered the name change it to "Holiday" tree.

Rapp2005/RappCity
12/01/05 @ 2:34 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Gabby:

Ha! So many decorative holiday lawn and house decorations (from Christmas through Valentines Day, Easter and Halloween) end up as deflated flotsum and jetsom after the big event ends.
A sad, sad end to these fabulous, flashing, creatures of the night.

Thanks for stopping by.

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/01/05 @ 2:40 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
PeterP:

According to the TV News stations from Boston, the news last night said the debate has ended and that the Statehouse Tree is OFFICIALLY a Christmas Tree.

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/01/05 @ 4:27 pm
hagg [Visitor] writes:
this might not be a bad idea we know what we are celebrating to teach others is ok but to make them say and live our faults is not a way to do it "tres reyes magos" is named as it is for it not to interupt other religions if not it would be named the three kings who visited christs birth"a journey from africa to the holy baby"
12/01/05 @ 9:28 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Hagg:
Interesting insite.
Thanks for visiting us.

JCRapp/RappCity
12/01/05 @ 9:39 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
PeterP:
Hmmm... the networks better talk to each other... It was all over the news last night. As for that Jewish group ... It was refreshing to see the Jewish spokesman defending Christmas. The group was called,(I'm paraphasing here) something like the "Jewish group to counter anti-Christmas bias." Peter, I'm sure you have the full name of the group. Drop it in the next comment will you?
I think many Jews probably feel like that spokesman. He made a good point that(again..paraphrasing)some reindeer, a smiling Santa and maybe a few Frosty the Snowmen on a public lawn are not the end of the world.
I think, however, that lobbying next year for a manger scene and a Statue of the Virgin Mary might push the envelope though... :)

The "holiday" part of Christmas is loved by all. But, honestly, other than Church and family religiosity at home ..it is as much representative of the birth of Jesus anymore as much as it has become Corporate America's idea of cashing in on people's temporary, "Good will" for a few weeks. Ho Ho Ho...

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/01/05 @ 11:46 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
To All:

It seems that we do indeed still have a "Holiday Tree" in Boston. I have added an UPDATE to the end of my Blog to explain the final decision (see quotes there).
Mayor Mennino insists he lit the 64th annual, "Christmas Tree" tonight, despite the the city still calling it a "Holiday Tree."
They did all agree that next year there will be a Christmas
Tree for Boston.

Meanwhile, I enjoyed channel five news calling it a "Holiday Tree" in the first half of their broadcast tonight, and then referring to it as a "Christmas Tree," in the second half.

But perhaps the most ironic thing was the commercial, in between those news segments that was selling a Honda over the chorus of, "We wish you a happy holiday and a happy New Year," (to the tune of "We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year.") Good timing...

Well, this has certainly been an interesting ride ... now
everyone go shopping.

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/05/05 @ 1:05 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
PeterP:

Thanks for the info.

I think it's admirable that this "Anti Christmas Defamation of Christmas" Jewish group exists, and what they are doing is a good thing to promote Judeo/Christian friendship.
However, I do think Mr. Lapin, himself, went a little too far when he said that Jews who, "Oppose any mention of Christmas are generally those whose only claim to Judaism is a rejection of Jesus."

That is a rather generalized statement (and I hate and loathe generalized statements) ...especially when they come from self-proclamed spokespeople for any group ...be it Jews, Christians, African Americans or even groups for the rights of Women or Gays.

Generalized statements usually offer the views and opinions of the spokesperson and his/her immediate followers in a particular group or movement.....not always the entire group of people they claim to be representing.

Let's remember that Jews existed approximately 2,500-3,000 years before the birth of Christ. So defining themselves by rejecting Jesus makes no sense anyway.

So, while Mr. Lapin is showcasing a lovely idea of tolerance and understanding on the surface of his group, I just worry that he may be just as much of a radical fundamentalist Jew as those who often say dumb things and claim they represent everyone's Christian beliefs (I won't mention the name of that Rev. in Va. who hates purple cartoon characters or the one on TV who thought of assassinating a South American leader).

Hmmm...this is serious though: Christmas...the Holiday that dare not speak its name.

As for Mayor Mennino: I am confused as to what he you mean about him, not, "going along."
He is for calling the tree a "Christmas" tree.
Do you mean he found Lapin's comment a little odd ... as I did?

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/05/05 @ 1:24 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
JC - based on my own experience, I am willing to believe that a more nuanced statement was tossed out in favor of a bumper sticker.

And it made me smile to see Jackie Mason involved, too!
12/05/05 @ 2:47 pm
Magical Eye [Member] writes:
Hi JC... as I passed the christmas trees and lighting I was thinking I can understand public property not wanting to call christmas trees, what they are but... maybe if they were to put up everyone's holiday stuff it might be okay. So I am for stuffing all public property with every single symbol of each and every holiday. That way everyone would be happy... I mean there could even be a rep for those that believe in nothing since nothing would be put up for them! ho ho ho
12/05/05 @ 3:14 pm
Peter Porcupine [Visitor] writes:
Eye - that's why it's annoying. The State House Menorah (12 ft wide) is BEAUTIFUL! They have one on the Common, too. Nobody insists it be called the Holiday Candelabra!
12/05/05 @ 3:16 pm
Magical Eye [Member] writes:
PP: You have me on the floor laughing!
12/08/05 @ 12:04 pm
Rapp2005/RappCity [Visitor] writes:
Eye:

Hey...RappCity's Village Green could get pretty pricey with so many lights from, "Everyone's Holidays." ;> (Again...How many "religious" ones fall in December anyway?)
Putting up NOTHING (for people who believe in nothing) is a GREAT idea. An abstract decor. Only visible to those who appreciate the quantum mechanics of the season. Good idea!

Peter:

When Menorah's and Christmas Trees were the ONLY symbols of the season...(in my youth), I don't remember too many problems (well, maybe in Mississippi and Alabama...Lol). But,The HOLY-DAYS (holidays) of the two Old Testament religious "cousins" are just, historically, celebrated around the same week of the year. And this year they even fall on the SAME DAY (Dec. 25th)!

For that reason, I find it appropriate to have a Menorah. However, standing alongside it should be the Statehouse CHRISTMAS Tree!

Let's just get the greedy corporations who want to change these religious holidays into secular buying frenzies back into their secular corporate cages!

Ho Ho Ho ... Chai Chai Chai

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/10/05 @ 6:01 pm
Magical Eye [Member] writes:
Hey JC... I found a good one today. "Christmas is the one time of year when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ."
- - - Bart Simpson "The Simpsons" 1989
:))
12/12/05 @ 3:17 pm
JCRapp2005 [Visitor] writes:
Magical Eye:

Thanks. LOL. I love it!

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/13/05 @ 1:10 pm
Monponsett [Visitor] writes:
I'm against Happiness. My greeting cards only say "December" on them.
12/24/05 @ 12:41 pm
JC RappCity [Member] writes:
Monponsett:

Happy December to you and yours.

JCRapp2005/RappCity
12/24/05 @ 8:25 pm
pagan [Visitor] writes:
we were here before you, and we will be here after you are gone;
Every christian holiday is built upon one or more pagan traditions, and can be examined in reverse, if you will.
In fact, every ritual that encompasses you, and your family, is predicated on pagan beliefs.
We just endured, and passed, the shortest, darkest days of the year.
All these religions, all these competing designs.
'situational ethics', is an excuse, not a reason, Peter Porcupine.
All of us await an original thought from you, though since you proclaim to be dead, I guess this will not happen.
Make me work. Tell me any holiday, I will tell you the preceding template.
It never ends. All you hold dear, was once the purview of another paradigm.
But you should know all that.
So tell me.
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