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Delaware is rushing to catch the wind; What are the Wind Power subsidies? The Next Hurricane's cost

philadelphia_inquirer_logo_01WeatherWatch
Why hurricanes inevitably will be more costly


The unimaginable devastation of Hurricane Katrina emphatically affirmed the frightening future of tropical storms.

If you follow climate issues, you are aware of the debate over what impact worldwide warming had on Katrina in 2005 and what it means for the hurricane seasons to come, a subject we touched on two weeks ago. We will leave that debate to the scientists, whom we are loath to pit against each other.

We can say with some certainty, however, that even if global warming slows, stops or reverses tomorrow, hurricane seasons will become ever more destructive and expensive along the coasts, from Texas to Florida to New Jersey to Cape Cod.

It is a direct result of human activity - oceanside development, that is.

Very simply, more is in the way than ever before.  Kerry Emanuel, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, holds that punishing hurricane seasons are now a permanent condition because of global warming...  Read the rest of this Philadelphia Inquirer hereLeave a comment
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washpost1Delaware Energy Debate Could Turn on the Wind
Offshore Turbines Among 3 Proposals

REHOBOTH BEACH, Del. -- Two hundred towering windmills, each so tall that its blades would loom over the U.S. Capitol Dome, could be built in the Atlantic Ocean near one of Washingtonians' favorite beach retreats, under a plan being considered in Delaware.

Click image to see visualsThe plan, which could create the first wind "farm" in waters along the East Coast, envisions a thicket of turbines offshore of eitherRehoboth Beach or Bethany Beach, Del . As the blades are spun by ocean winds, designers say, the wind farm could provide enough power every year for 130,000 homes.

The wind farm is one competitor in an unusual kind of power-plant bake-off: Delaware officials are also considering plants that would burn coal or natural gas as they seek ways to generate more electricity. A preliminary decision could be made tomorrow.

So far, the debate over the windmills has turned on global questions about climate change and very local concerns about the impact on the ocean view. But from the beach, the wind farm's backers say, the giant turbines would look smaller than a boardwalk french fry.  (Click the map on right to see the visuals from all the different beaches.)

"Toothpicks, with maybe little pinwheels on the top," said Jim Lanard, a spokesman for the company proposing the windmills, describing how they would look on the horizon more than six miles offshore. "You probably wouldn't be able to tell what they are"...   Read the rest of this Washington Post story hereLeave a comment
See the Delaware Governor's video of his trip to a wind farm here.
To see visuals of the two projects from the beaches click here.
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renewableaccess_201What is the percentage of Federal subsidies allotted to Wind Power?
Most anti-wind commenters are either wrong or spreading false data

Q: "I understand that the federal government in various ways subsidizes energy industries. In the most recent year for which there is data, what percentage of total federal subsidies went to develop solar, wind, geothermal, and new hydro energy sources?" -- Glenn Andersen, Orange County, CA

A: You raise a good question, for it's one that touches on a subject often misunderstood by the general public. You are correct that the federal government subsidizes the various industries within the energy sector, but that those subsidies don't just include the renewable sources you list (i.e., solar, geothermal, hydro, and wind). Federal subsidies go to both the nuclear and fossil fuel industries as well.
For purposes of this discussion, I'm going to stick to wind energy and leave the other renewable energy sources to the appropriate experts.

It may be somewhat natural for people outside the energy industry to assume that because wind and other renewable technologies are newer than those of fossil fuels, they are "subsidized" to help them develop, while fossil fuel and perhaps nuclear technologies have matured to the extent that they can thrive in an unassisted, "free-market" environment, simultaneously serving society and churning out a profit without any financial incentive from government.

That assumption could hardly be further from reality. In fact, the truth is practically the exact opposite. In 2003 alone, total federal energy subsidies ranged from $37 billion to $64 billion, according to a study prepared for the National Commission on Energy Policy. Wind energy accounted for less than 1% of that total.

Wind power's primary federal-based incentive is the production tax credit (PTC) -- that is, a credit for each kilowatt-hour that a wind energy facility produces for the first 10 years of the facility's life. As with other energy sources, wind also receives funding for research and development (R&D) to help further advance the technology.

Subsidizing fossil fuels is nothing new, to say the least. Energy sources such as oil and natural gas, for example, have received subsidies during the last 75 or so years for such fundamental parts of their business as exploration and extraction. Examples of these include intangible drilling costs and percent depletion allowance, which existed as early as 1916 and are permanent in the tax code.

One might also assume that because the fossil fuel industries have been around for over a century, the federal government no longer provides financial assistance for R&D, or at least very little compared to emerging energy sources. One might further guess that wind energy and other renewables, because they are much newer technologies with huge societal benefits, would receive comparatively significant funding. Again, not so.

In fiscal year (FY) 2006, fossil fuels got $580 million in R&D funds from the federal government. Nuclear, meanwhile, received $221 million in federal R&D money. The FY 2008 budget calls for nuclear R&D funding of $547 million. Wind energy's FY 2006 R&D funding: $38.3 million.

While the primary federal incentive mechanism for wind power is the PTC, it's actually quite difficult to get at all of the financial incentives that the fossil fuel industries receive because many of their subsidies are provided in indirect ways that are spread across the stages of production, from resource exploration and extraction, to transportation of fuel, to pollution clean-up, to risk and safety. Again, wind eliminates the need for many of these incentives since it does not require such elements of production.

The last point to make is that while many of these fossil fuel incentives have been around for as much as 75 or 80 years -- allowing for the respective industries to rely on and plan around them -- wind power and other renewables have had to operate in an uncertain business environment, having to sweat out one- and two-year extensions of the PTC. On that level, it's somewhat remarkable that the industry has grown as much as it has.

With all the rhetoric out there about government subsidies -- a term that has negative connotations in itself -- sometimes the federal assistance that older industries receive is forgotten. It's easy for the general public to assume that emerging and rapidly improving technologies are receiving some type of federal help, but often forgotten is that with energy being so crucial to society; virtually all segments of the sector are getting some form of subsidies from the federal government. Wind power, meanwhile, is thriving on comparatively little. Renewable Energy Access, April 10, 2007. 

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05/08/07 @ 6:22 am
Monponsett [Member] writes:
For those of you who didn't fall for the "this summer will be really, really bad for hurricanes" rap in 2006, the 2007 model is now available.

But wait... there's MORE!

Yes, for those who buy now, we'll throw in an order of It's All Your Fault, too.
05/08/07 @ 8:13 am
barbaradurkin [Member] writes:
Investors Business Daily May 7, 2007:

“The fact is that after more than 30 years and billions of dollars of government subsidies, neither wind nor solar power is economically competitive.”

“Marlo Lewis, senior fellow in environmental policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, has pointed out that after three decades and over $14 billion in taxpayer subsidies, so-called renewable energy — wind, solar and biomass fuels — together supply only 3% of America's electricity, with wind and solar providing less than 0.2 of 1 percent.”

“Touted as a means of protecting the environment from pollution, giant wind farms threaten birds and endangered species. The Center for Biological Diversity has sued wind farm operators in California's Altamont Pass where it is estimated that as many as 44,000 birds have been killed over the past 20 years. The casualties include an average of 50 golden eagles annually, by what the Sierra Club has called "the Cuisinarts of the air."
05/08/07 @ 9:29 am
bubslola [Member] writes:
Mopo so true. Every year Cape Codders hear the "big one " is coming. Wasn't BOB back in 1991...what have we had since then? I'm not running to stock pile just yet...the "big one " is always this year it seems.
You want to have a hold our breath contest or who can stock up on the most water and flashlights??
05/08/07 @ 12:17 pm
Self Reliance [Member] writes:
Yeah, I wonder how "economically competitive" wind and solar would be without all tens of billions (that's billions with a B) of government subsidies that go into fossil fuel sources every year. If you want to talk about being economically competitive, let's put them all on a level playingfield! Let's add in the economic impacts of the health and envionmental effects of consuming fossil fuels too, and while we're at it, lets elimintate the oil war funding from the picture too, we don't need to control the middle east if we don't need their oil and gas. Then we can really talk about which source of energy is "economically competitive".
05/08/07 @ 1:05 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
Self Reliance...I think your confusing things.

" Reducing CO2 emissions is a goal with universal support, yet carbon dioxide emissions can be reduced more efficiently by other means. Based on cost, wind and solar energy cannot compete with clean coal and nuclear, with wind reaching any substantial part of the market only if these two options are not available. Meanwhile, tax incentives and market interventions such as RPS impede progress by misdirecting capital away from more efficient technologies, such as clean coal and nuclear. In January, 2007, the Australian government officially redirected its energy policy from wind (and solar) to clean coal and nuclear, citing the incapacity of wind and solar technologies to compete cost-effectively or to contribute substantially to energy generation. "

http://docs.google.com/View?docID=ddq9mrbs_91f29z69&revision=_latest
05/08/07 @ 1:19 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
Self Reliance..." Windpower’s backup requirement eliminates most if not all of its savings, in terms of fossil fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. Lees for More: The Rube Goldberg Nature of Industrial Wind Development, How the Scam Works "

http://docs.google.com/View?docID=ddq9mrbs_91f29z69&revision=_latest
05/08/07 @ 2:07 pm
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Massachusetts Maritime Academy gets 50% of it's power needs met by it's one wind turbine.

Hull paid for it's turbine in 4 years rather than 12...
05/08/07 @ 3:01 pm
neil good [Member] writes:
Moses, it's time to put fresh batteries in your calculator or take a refresher course in math.

According to a reliable source, the MMA campus FY 05 electric consumption was 5,196,600 kWh.

The MMA Turbine web page reports that the lifetime output is now just over 909,703 kWh

Are you planning to continue saying that turbine is providing 50% of the electricity at MMA?
05/08/07 @ 3:18 pm
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - I stand corrected


"The output of the wind turbine is used to power about 25% of the load at MMA saving taxpayers about $200,000 each year (including REC sales). The system serves as an educational facility to train students on the operation and maintenance of wind turbines as part of the curriculum. "

http://www.mtpc.org/Project_lst_rslt.asp?ID=661
05/08/07 @ 3:36 pm
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
I have been quoting 100k savings and it is actually 200k that MMA saves on it's power...
See the story here,
and here,
and here.
05/08/07 @ 8:10 pm
neil good [Member] writes:
I get the feeling someone has a vivid imagination Moses. On 04/02/07 you wrote- “I spoke with the President of Mass. Maritime Academy. 50% of their annual electricity requirement has been met by their wind turbine. How about that?”

Now you are saying “…it is actually 200k that MMA saves on it's power.”

You are relying on a B. Globe story from Feb. 24, '06, before the turbine was even installed. The 200k figure was a prediction- “At the Mass. Maritime Academy, a turbine to be built this spring with state funds and a collaborative grant could provide about one-third of the college's electrical load, [and] save $200,000 to $300,000 a year…”

I believe the true dollar savings and the power output are only about half of what was predicted. This all reminds me of what J. Boone wrote in “The Wayward Wind,”

“I could not substantiate a single claim developers made for industrial wind energy, including the one justifying its existence: that massive wind installations would meaningfully reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.”
05/09/07 @ 8:51 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - FYI, MMA is right next to buzzards bay where the most recent bouchard spilled 6 oil bound for the sandwich/mirant power plant...

This turbine hasn't been in operation for a full year. The windy season is coming up. I'm looking forward to you eating your words...


http://www.mass.gov/envir/Sustainable/pdf/vf05_mma_windturbine.pdf

you can request the public records if you question what the benefits are from the MMA turbine...
05/09/07 @ 8:55 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - I suggest that you get off your butt and head down to MMA...
05/09/07 @ 9:04 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Note that the energy.gov web site states that the MMA turbine started operating on October 1 2006 so that means that MMA is on target to MEET OR EXCEED it's power generation estimates.

"The turbine became fully operational October 1, 2006."

This along with the fact that the turbine has been stopped a few times to study the entire lack of bid kills makes it clear to me that MMA has done a great job to manage state funds appropriately (as usual).
05/09/07 @ 9:36 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
The UN seems to be waking up to the idea that wind power makes good sense...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/business/09carbon.html?_r=1&oref=login
05/09/07 @ 9:57 am
neil good [Member] writes:
Moses, you say, “The windy season is coming up. I'm looking forward to you eating your words...”

I have more [very] bad news for you Moses.

The windy season is NOT coming up.

May, June, July and August are the months with the LEAST amount of wind on the coast of Southern New England. Don’t believe me? Check the National Data Buoy Center data for ‘Station BUZM3’ - Buzzards Bay, MA. Look for- “Historical Data & Climatic Summaries for quality controlled data for the current month, previous months, and previous years.”

The MMA Turbine page has graphs for ‘year’ and ‘lifetime’ starting with Jun. 06. The page also reports- "Greenhouse Gases Avoided Since Installation Jun 22, 2006.” Seems to me the turbine has been in operation since before Oct. 06.
05/09/07 @ 10:11 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - again, you need to start working with facts rather than fiction.

You should be ashamed of your opposition to this project.
05/09/07 @ 10:31 am
neil good [Member] writes:
Moses,

You are the one having trouble with facts, not me.

Are you still planning to tell people the windy season is coming up?

I’d be ashamed if I could not get this extremely basic information straight.

Forgive me for saying it so bluntly, but this is just another example of wind power advocates misinforming the public.
05/09/07 @ 10:42 am
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - you don't seem to be very well informed. Where do you get your information from?
05/09/07 @ 10:51 am
neil good [Member] writes:
Where do I get wind speed data?

Today it came from the National Data Buoy Center- ‘Station BUZM3’ - Buzzards Bay, MA.

Are you really trying to tell me that is not a trustworthy source?

Are you still saying "The windy season is coming up"?
05/09/07 @ 10:54 am
Monponsett [Member] writes:
I know the semi-answer to this Neil... I think the CW site has a constant monitor there... if not there, Chuck D can tell you where to go.
05/09/07 @ 12:04 pm
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - after running the historical numbers you are correct.

Where's my answer on the logic that 4 turbines at MMA makes economic/environmental sense?
05/09/07 @ 12:07 pm
neil good [Member] writes:
Monpo, usually I am completely snubbed when I ask questions around here. It seems the occasional- “THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN DELETED”- is a better sign of progress.
05/09/07 @ 12:33 pm
neil good [Member] writes:
I’m not convinced one turbine makes any sense Moses. Three more could make matters worse. By chance, the Salem News has an editorial on line titled- “Windmills and Schools a Bad Mix” [Timing can be so important.]

“…Wind turbines are expensive, and require maintenance…”

”Nor does this technology always work. While there have been sporadic attempts to power up the solar array that dominates a hillside next to Beverly High School, for many years it sat there more symbolic of the empty promise of renewable energy than as a beacon for the future.”

“Good intentions alone cannot assure the success of these projects. Before communities spend millions demonstrating their concern for the environment by erecting huge wind turbines or investing in other forms of energy production, they should be certain there will be a reasonable return on and proper management of those facilities.”
05/09/07 @ 3:24 pm
lmc035@gmail.com [Member] writes:
Neil - Your statements make it sound like you live right on Nantucket Sound.
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