Op-Ed
A page where people can oppose the publishersAn architecturally inspired design build collaborative of an architect, a builder, and a landscaper which offers an all-in-one solution to your home design needs. (Yarmouth)
Provides Pre-school to All Star Dance Team programs. Our programs are age-appropriate, concept and skill based, and above all FUN. Kidzlinx has an open enrollment policy so students may register throughout the year. (Sandwich)
Mashpee: A Question of Fact vs. Fiction
Who greeted the Pilgrims?
What claim do Mashpee Wampanoag have to Middleborough?
By James P. Lynch, Historical Consulting and Research Archives LLC
In the shortest, yet most instructive of his published writings, "History: Remembered, Recovered and Invented," the eminent historian Bernard Lewis wrote of three different types of history that confronts the contemporary reader in the various media.
In his 1972 book, Professor Lewis noted that "critical [recovered] history begins with dissatisfaction with memory and a desire to remedy its deficiencies." Invention, he wrote, passes over recovered history and resorts to the "embellishment" of the past," which "influences inscriptions and chronicles, monographs and textbooks, and all the other media used to project an image and present a case." (The map on right shows the range of the various sub-tribes of the Wampanoags in 1600)
It is to certain "inventions" of Mashpee history this essay will address: that the Mashpee are Wampanoag, greeted the Pilgrims when they landed at Plymouth in 1620; and have historical and cultural ties to the lands in the town of Middleboro.
Historically there was never a Wampanoag tribe
How does a historical "invention" contrast with historical fact? Let's start with the question of "Wampanoag." Historically there was never a Wampanoag tribe per se. The term Wampanoag is a general linguistic descriptor. Its root lies in the Algonquian "Wa.panwi," which literally means "it dawns" or "easterner." It was a generalized term used by Algonquian-speaking tribes to refer to peoples to their east where the sun rises.
In the case of "Wampanoag" we find the suffix "oag" (some Algonquian tribal dialects use "aug"), which denotes near water, or near a body of water. Thus a literal interpretation of "Wampanoag" is - a people who live where the sun rises near a body of water.
In the case of southeastern Massachusetts, this descriptor was used as a term of reference by the Indians residing to the west of Indians who lived along Buzzards Bay, most notably the Pokanoket. This term of reference was picked up by the early colonists at Plymouth who equated the term Wampanoag with the Pokanoket tribe, in contrast to the neighboring Massachusett, Nipmuck and Narragansett tribes.
With the advent of King Philip's War in 1675 (shown on right in an old woodcut), the term became associated with those regional (eastern) Indian groups that joined Philip (Metacom) in his conflict against the colonists. Thus we hear of a Wampanoag confederation in various historical writings.
The Wampanoag did not greet the Pilgrims
Did any "Wampanoag" greet the first arrivals at Plymouth? No. No Indians did. What William Bradford and those other first arrivals found were deserted Indian villages, the victims of smallpox epidemic that had spread south from Newfoundland. Were there "Wampanoag" in the region? Yes. The boundary between the Pokanoket and Massachusett tribal lands was in this area. Were these "Wampanoag" members of the Mashpee tribe? No.
There was not a Mashpee tribe in existence in 1620.
Why weren't the Mashpee there? Simply put, there was not a Mashpee tribe in existence at the time of historical contact (1620) in Massachusetts. Mashpee, as a self-governing distinct Indian community or enclave having its own defined territory, did not come into existence until 1665, some 45 years after the point of first sustained Indian contact with non-Indians in this region. Mashpee was a product of the collision between two cultures, English and Indian. Mashpee is not what is commonly called an "historic or historical tribe" that is, a politically organized tribe, having its own defined territory that was in existence at the time of first sustained contact with the colonists. Mashpee was the produce of tribal disintegration and fissioning as a result of this bi-cultural collision.
The Mashpee enclave that came into existence in 1665 consisted of expatriate Indians from many different tribal groups who, having adopted Christianity, shed their previous tribal political relations and portions of their own cultural ideology and came together into what was known as a "Praying Indian Town" or simply "Praying Town." There were many such towns established in eastern Massachusetts for these convert tribal fragments. Most importantly, the Mashpee did not represent a political or social continuation of a specific historic tribe or historic tribes that voluntarily and politically merged to form a new tribe.
These converts with their new Christian ideology were drawn together mainly through the efforts of a colonist named Richard Bourne who, being a friend to the Indian groups residing at the western end of Cape Cod, convinced the sachems of two of these groups (Tookonchasm and Weepquish) to convey via a legal deed dated Dec. 11, 1665, lands belonging to their respective groups to the convert community that had congregated on the Cape's south shore. These extra-tribal convert Indians who initially resided on these conveyed lands became known as the "South Sea Indians," which later morphed into the name "Mashpee."
At this point in time the Mashpee formed their own town government, established land governance rules based in large part upon English law (proprietorship) and town organization, had a defined bounded territory in which to live and over which they asserted local jurisdiction. Even as late as 1753, the Mashpee reminded the Massachusetts General Court "that the same sachems who had given most of the Cape to the English had also created Mashpee."
How Mashpee passed muster concerning the descent from a historic tribe requirement (25CFR 83.7 (e)) with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, thus gaining federal recognition, leaves one wondering. With the name of the notorious Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff now connected with the Mashpee's recognition quest and his close association with former disgraced Interior Department administrator Steven Griles, one begins to see a picture, a not very pleasant one at that.
Thus the Mashpee cannot be considered Wampanoag in any political or tribal sense in that they were never part of the Pokanoket tribe, nor were they part of King Philips wartime confederation. Mashpee came into existence in 1665 as a Praying Town under colonial jurisdiction. As a matter of fact, Mashpee remained loyal to the colonists during King Philip's conflict with some members of the community fighting against the Wampanoag confederation of tribes. Mashpee did not come into existence until 1665, thus making it an historical impossibility of having met the Plymouth colonists upon their landing in 1620, nor was there a Mashpee tribe present to have aided the new colony during those first terrible and trying years of Plymouth's existence.
Never in Middleborough, wrong side in war
Now what about Middleboro, a town at the center of present-day controversy concerning Mashpee historical claims and assertions to the area? First, if the Mashpee were never politically or culturally affiliated with the Massachusett or Pokanoket tribes, how can they make such a claim, especially given the fact that the Mashpee sided against the Pokanoket-Wampanoag confederation during King Philips war? Second, the Mashpee cannot make a cultural affiliation with either tribe. They maintained a particular cultural and ideological base (Christianity) from their very inception that was vastly at odds with that of the traditional Pokanoket-Wampanoag.
Third, from a historical perspective there was prior to Middleboro's 1669 founding one named Indian village in the Middleboro area (Nemasket), which in 1622 was under the dominion of the Pokanoket sachem Massasoit, (shown in old painting greeting Pilgrims in 1621). Yet we later find two such villages, "Assawompsett" in Middleboro and "Titicut" in north Middleboro near present-day Bridgewater.
The historical records clearly depict Titicut as a Massachusett tribal village, while Assawompsett appears to have had a polyglot Indian population of former Pokanoket and Massachusett (with many moving there from the former Massachusett village of "Mattakesitt" in 1674). There is also evidence of Abenaki Indians who had been re-settled on the Freetown reserve having moved into and settled at Assawompsett. It was from the remnants of these two village populations that the name "Middleborough Indians" evolved during the eighteenth century. Nowhere in this matrix is Mashpee to be found.
In fact, presently only two associations directly mentioning a connection between Middleboro and Mashpee are to be found in the April 1859 Report to the Governor and Council concerning the Indians of the Commonwealth, (Earle Report) a William Lee from Middleboro who had married a Mashpee woman and was presently residing in California, and a widowed state pauper named Sylvia Casco, also from Middleboro.
One fails to see any Mashpee historical or cultural connection to Middleboro without the coverage of the historically unsupportable "Wampanoag" umbrella. Their request to have lands they purchased in that town taken into trust by the Department of the Interior appears to lack a historical or cultural foundation.
371 comments
Blog posts and comments are entirely the thoughts and ideas of the people who write them and in no way represent the views of CapeCodToday.com, eCape, Inc., or its employees or owners.
Why did you post it? For historical reasons?
Are you for or against an Indian Casino in Mass?
What does that mean? You sound like a politician.
Your post suggests the Mashpees do not qualify. Is that your position?
JC, when your mind ISN'T already made up, you usually do better vetting…
=:(
kaweet nuneechôn!! Peesh kunâunumuw akôsahqôpay8ôkanut!
oh my ever-lovin Creator!!! Boy am i gonna have a ball with this one when the baby goes to sleep!!!
See you all in a little bit!
See
Whoo-boy! Mr. Lynch, I expect you're due for a trip to the woodshed… =:(
Should we delete him from The Park, Providence and any other historical ties to R.I?
I am not looking for an argument. You post and there is always a reason.
The Mashpee Indians and all the rest of the tribes throughout America that we stole land and heritage from deserve whatever they can get.
Please come out from under your skirt and explain the post.
Exactly how many times may i post concurrently. There is so much bad information, not to mention lack of training and proper research, that i will have to take this post, piece by piece, and take it apart for proper dissemination. The most efficient way is to construct in a separate document and paste here given the 1100 stroke maximum.
You're welcome, Susan. In response to maverick and muwin, my posting of this was not an endorsement of the views expressed within, whether you are willing to accept that or not. I am one of those people who actually doesn't have a problem with other people expressing views I don't share.
If either of you would like to write an op-ed challenging Mr. Lynch's views, by all means. And my posting of that won't be an endorsement of your views. See how it works? The blog is called "Op-Ed" for good reason.
Has the N.Y. Times "Op-Ed" ever said anything favorable to Pres. Bush?
Do they have an agenda? And might you also?
Just a little curious. We all know, and I tend to agree with your position on windmills in Nantucket Sound. How do you feel about a casino with acres of parking lots being built in the middle of virgin woodlands? I personally see some comparisons.
I agree with your comparisons. I also know that anything posted on CCT by Jack C. has an ulterior motive. To provoke ideas and discourse? I doubt it.
His posts are directly related to the hand that feeds him. If the Mashpee Tribe was advertising on CCT this Op-Ed would have never seen the light of day.
"Historically there was never a Wampanoag Tribe".
This statement shows an utter and complete lack of understanding between 'Nation' and 'tribe'. The map shown of 'sub-tribes' further underscores a lack of research on your part. Wampanoag is a NATION not a tribe. There is a difference. There were originally 69 tribes within the Wampanoag Nation. The map shown here is but one of at least five that i have seen. One MUST look at all available maps since the map makers' works cross a span of two centuries. NONE OF THE MAPS ACCOUNT FOR ALL TRIBES. Overlayed and cross referenced with linguistic data; all communities are more accurately accounted for. The Wampanoag Nation territory during the 17th century was bounded by: current day Cape Anne to the North; Southwest to current day Dudley; Southeast to the Blackstone River in East Providence; South to Narragansett Bay. That is the Nation. Mashpee is but one tribe.
In response to wopanashqa, the map and illustrations did not come from Mr. Lynch, who wrote the essay. The map and illustrations were added by the publisher of this site.
Where the hell did you read that? "its term lies in the Algonquian root wa.panwi' meaning 'it dawns or easterner' WRONG as to where the 'root' as you so ineptly put it, comes from and WRONG as to it meaning 'easterner'.
'wa.panwi' is from Proto-Algonquian; often called PA. PA is the mother from whence over 33 languages come. Algonquian is the term for the language family. wa:panwi, 'it (INANIMATE) dawns'. The entire world for these languages in the family is divided across two major genders. Those genders are ANIMATE AND INANIMATE. Every verb in the language must show agreement with the subject. For example; if i say 'It is red' and i am speaking of a bird; and 'it is red' and i am speaking of a chair, then the verb phrase 'it is red' will be different in each case since the bird is animate and the chair is not. So; the phrase wa:panwi can not refer both to the dawn and an easterner since the dawn is inanimate and person is not.
The sound changes from PA to Wôpanâôt8âôk (wampanog language) yield Wôp-. While this stem is found in the verb phrase for 'east'; it is also found in other verb stems such as:
wôpashq, 'young meadow' (inanimate noun)
wôpeekuhshây, 'it (inanimate) is pale'
wôpeeqaw, 'concieve (a child)' Transitive verb
wôpeeqawu-, 'be pregnant' Animate verb
wôpanâyu-, 'east'
So while it may refer to 'East', it is used for 'East' because the stem means 'originate', 'begin'.
The next erroneous statement:
The suffix -oag, -aug, means 'near a body of water'
Again; WRONG. What you have here is -o- that actually belongs the verb stem and -ag which represents the animate plural marker. You must have been out on the grassy knowll smoking dope during your Algonquian linguistics 101. OH RIGHT! you have no training.
It will be a hell of a lot easier just to list the morphemes in 'Wampanoag' and explain them in the next comment.
wamp-ano-ag
'wamp' wôp-, 'original, east'
'ano' -anâ-, 'be a certain way or manner'
'og' -ak animate plural marker (more than one animate being)
Wôpanâak, 'People of the East' OR 'original People'
This term is cognate with
Wabanaki : In this language there is voicing on the bilabial; so you get 'b' instead of 'p' as in Wôp. Wabanaki also retains final -i; where Wôp language drops it.
Abanaki; this language drops the initial W- retained by Wabanaki and Wôpanâôt8âôk and also retains final -i
Oh, by the way, bound morphemes (suffixes as he says, but they are not always suffixes) for water or near water are: -pâq or -tuk. The unbound (or whole words are:
seep, river
kutah, ocean
nupusupâq, pond
seep8ees, brook
No damned -aug or -oag.
i was not referring to your lack of training but mr. Lynch's. It was he who wrote such a piece of m8ee, 'sh**'.
We asked NO ONE to come here! We forced no one to live as we say fit. And no, maybe you were not here to participate in trying to wipe our a**es out; but you sure as hell still benefit from your upline's doings. i need a break.
;)
Peesh kanash (I hope I spelled that right)
The 50 mile radius of connection to homeland is taken by the Federal F*** Gov. to mean 50 miles radius of Mashpee. But the aboriginal territory is within all of the above stated boundaries which is easily deliniated by several different languages belonging to several different NATIONS; Wampanoag, Nipmuc, Narragansett. These are all entirely different languages, and not merely dialects of the same. Mashpee has a historic tie to ALL places within the original boundaries; as does Aquinnah.
And keep your fur on Muwin! i'll get to it but i'm not about to do something half-a**ed. This may be lively debate to some, but this is our kids lives we are fighting for..over, and over, and over.
Jack
i have seen very good work done by Non-natives in regard to Native history and culture.
I certainly hope that no one on the CC2day staff is sufficiently crass to feel even slightly self-congratulatory about what we've witnessed here, this evening…
=:(
'James Patrick Lynch: FREELANCE historian testifies against Indians in Casino land dispute'
source: Newsday (12-4-06)
A Connecticut historian who has refuted American Indian land claims across the country testified Monday in federal court that the Shinnecock Nation has no right to build on a parcel of land in Southampton that the tribe is eyeing for a casino.
i'll continue the info. CC Rockhopper but just wanted the public to see what we are really dealing with here.
My conclusion is the Mr. Lynch probably has lots of time on his hands, and welcomed an opportunity to promote his "sharpshooter" credentials with a little back-yard target practice…
.
Bittersweet: I understand what you are saying, but to yell your message at a few who need while driving off the mass is never good. better to have the ears of many then bother with scorning the few,,, " brush the dust from your feet of them (who dont want to hear the truth or are just arguative about it) and move on to those who want to hear and learn"
Look forward to the next installment
While I don't feel that you "owe" anybody an explanation, I do find myself part of an appreciable body of CC2day agnostics & downright doubters, who struggle daily with a shared dilemma over whether or not there's enough support for objectivity here, to make continued participation worthwhile…
Perhaps you'd care to share the thought process that led to your considered selection of Mr. Lynch's piece, since it so blatantly flies in the face of studious history texts & legally-established facts?
(Btw, Mr. Lynch's testimony in the Shinnecock matter left the judge unconvinced & he ruled in favor of the tribe.)
Ah well, there's an inexhaustible supply of "experts" so your inbox may soon contain an "op-ed" from renowned historian Mahmoud Ahmadinejad…
deltaman, do you understand the concept of providing a forum to express views that others may not agree with? Or does your grasp of that extend only to those you agree with?
If the president of Iran wished to express his views here on US foreign policy in the Middle East, you would not allow that, would you? Ironically, Ahmadinejad does exactly that when it comes to dissent in Iran.
Moreover, Mashpee Wampanoag refers to a nationality; by reason of obvious historic accident, most of 'em are also part of the Native American race. Since their ancestors were often persecuted for having even a small percentage of native american blood, their descendants should certainly be entitled to justly claim the heritage that generations of their families proudly suffered for. Even if you can't quite wrap your mind around the equity of that fact, I nevertheless suggest that you still attempt to move past it since it's been codified in federal laws for some time…
That was a very enlightening, scholarly piece. Thank you for informing us with something that goes far beyond the usual ankle-biting nit-picking coming from both factions of this issue, neither one for which I take sides.
It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
Also, I seriously dispute the legitimacy & intellectual honesty of using pseudo-science to promote a political agenda; if Ahmadinejad posts an op-ed about the improving economic conditions in Iran, or how the government is encouraging free speech, I'll probably suspend belief at least long-enough to read & consider his points… On the other hand, if CC2day were to promulgate his discredited, dishonest views on the jewish holocost, I would expect that the commenters would deservedly pillory both CC2day & Ahmadinejad!!!
Rah! Rah!
wôpanâshqâ!
Love ya baby!
Actually, don't need much of that allotment to point-out that I'll be looking forward to Mr. Lynch's return, should he ever choose to offer some advice on how to select & purchase central air conditioning!
=;)
Your claim of me using "pulpits" here "anonymously" is inaccurate and more than a little hypocritical, coming from someone who posts comments while hiding behind a screen of anonymity.
As for commenters here having the opportunity to pillory Ahmadinejad's views on anything, how would they be able to do that without knowing exactly what he said or wrote?
Fact is, a helluva lot more people know far more about the subject of Mr. Lynch's op-ed by virtue of him writing it, the post being published here and the comments to follow, than they would have known had it not been published.
This was not a debate and you full well know/knew it. It has been nothing more than vulturous jealousy and unabashed hatred in which CCToday has fully participated.
wamptruth, curiouswamp, D-man, B-sweet, Muwin, twg, wamp-pride, quahog;
This crew at CCToday is a pack of vipers and has predetermined ideas as to what mashpees do and do not deserve and have most probably used Peter as well. i am truly sorry that i cannot continue to comment here. The fact is that any good information placed here could potentially be used against my People. Placing one's weety8 in enemy camp can often be useful in determining just who the enemy really is. i am willing to have an honest and open discussion with any one of you but not in this venue. There is now a concerted effort to prevent us from placing any property that we hold, or have purchased, into federal trust. The article written by Lynch is a fishing expedition and the 'racial purity' slings are the red herring. Good luck to all of you and keep your families safe and loved.
jessie little doe
Secondly, I agree that Mr. Lynch deserves every bit as much publicity here, as was granted to the alleged public wanker who still somehow manages to elude the YPD.
Much of what else you said is moot, as my primary reason for appearing here has been to encourage members of the Mashpee tribe to speak out on matters of their heritage & governance - to counter what I absolutely view as their unremitting exploitation by this publication. Without their whole-hearted participation in these discussions, there's no point in my continued presence either; I'd just be a lonely sentry standing by an empty wigwam…
I'm personally disappointed by Wôpanâshqâ's decision, but I also have an acute sense of her pain and frustration over this venue! So, if other commenters accept Wôpanâshqâ's view & move your discussions elsewhere, please stop back to let us know where you wind up, OK?
Peace to all with honest hearts & good intentions!
=:)
wôpanâshqâ: Please done loose heart, some of us "uneducated's" are open to what you have to say in a pure sense of learning. We are not stupid (someone who knows the truth but disregards it for falshoods) we are more ignorant (we just have not been educated on this matter) but at least wise ignorants are willing to lean and can be taught, stupidity is just that stupid. I hope that you show up someplace in the future to continue your lessons. May you walk in true light and the peace it can bring.
(1) You haven't even come close to acknowledging the obvious pain of Wôpanâshqâ & other Mashpee commenters, that has deeply moved so many other "outsiders" who have witnessed them expressing their frustration over CC2day's relentless, sensationalized exploitation of their misfortunes (how often do you also attend & cover their public pow-wows? You - even Peter - have always been welcome…)
(2) Editorial biases are unavoidable, and most even slightly intelligent "consumers" quickly adjust for them; Editorial integrity is an entirely different matter, as evidenced in the differences between the Washington Post & the National Enquirer! The public's perception of a publication's integrity goes a long way towards determining the integrity of its readership & the quality of discussions that take place under its auspices… On that point, I'm sad to have discovered our differences to be irreconcilable!
Would you comment on Mr Lynch's findings and describe your difference with his position? Any references to the Maytag repair man need not be included.
Moving forward, If the constructive core of this discussion coalesces elsewhere, I hope that we'll all be informed…
=:)
Please keep your "cool".
Is cc2day for or against the Wampanoag Nation? Is cc2day for or against helping to expose the injustice that is being done to our people by our people? Is cc2day for or against Casinos? Is cc2day for or against economic development for the Mashpee? Just when you think someone understands the plight of Native Americans they show their ‘true’ colors and hit you from behind. .
To discontinue in the discussions concerning our people is to continue the misguided truths that are presumed about us. I found it interesting that we have all had our opinion about the politics within our nation, but we all came together to defend who we are as a nation. We are more united than the outsider give us credit for, no matter what our differences may be.
No Jews died at Auschwitz.
9/11 was an inside job.
An alien ship crashed in 1947.
James Patrick Lynch is a historian.
etc.
"A Rhode Island Indian tribe that is seeking federal recognition has challenged the Mashpee Wampanoag's effort to build a casino in Middleboro, saying it has ancestral and cultural rights to the land."
The story states that Michael "White Eagle Deer," tribal president of the Pokanoket tribe, sent a letter to Gov. Deval Patrick.
"The Mashpee casino's proposal in Middleborough is an affront to the Pokanoket Tribe and a strong indication the Mashpee Tribe has lost sight of its own heritage and tradition," Weeden wrote. "We stand against the usurpation of Pokanoket lands for gaming or any other purpose by another tribe. In light of the current push, we strongly urge you, as Governor of Massachusetts, to refuse to enter into negotiation, or other favorable consideration of an Indian casino on our lands."
A question for those who've reacted so strongly to Lynch's essay - does White Eagle Deer have a right to his opinion in this matter?
Are you saying he wasn't an air conditioner salesman?
by one of their descendants, "Red Shell, Cape Cod Indian Historian"
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~massasoit/ccod01.htm
This reminds me of the never ending controversy over the bible.
As was said already one before, this is a blog, not a boxing right, not CC2days opinions or indorsments, it a blog, one persons sharing of information, (which I think we have all discovered the info has been called out and we have learned something) lets either get back to the original learning session or move on...
Jack I may not agree with where this has ended up but thank you for letting me comment.
btw, wopa, the u.s. is a nation, a nation to which everyone has a right to belong; and it is somewhat offensive that you continually, in your comments, refer to this Nation as belonging to the Mashpee.
You have it all wrong...no one thinks you're a "slut", you're just not the kind of girl we want to bring home to mom.
Chin up girl....what these little boys say isn't worth thinking about. Buzz can't bring any girls home because "momma boys" don't have any girls. And as far as their insinuations and vulgar comments, what do you expect--take it from the source--and from someone who's had to endure their childish remarks, since 2005 as I have--maybe if they could stay off the XXX sites for a while, they wouldn't have such filthy minds....someone mentioned..."it's not who you know....it's who you_____"...I don't know why you would make a rude comment like that to me, but all I can conclude is that you ain't getting any!
It's important to keep these conversations clean---but I had to say my peace, like usual.
Now, she may have some interesting, good news to share with you next week, so…
=;)
i admire all.
even all the silly asses.
wamp- 'pride' commeth before a fall.
so go ahead and wear knickers and wooden shoes.
'mean'? b-s is demented.
good luck in your endeavors.
jeez, you just be hard up.
I already lead an interesting life, & I don't participate here as a substitute for genuine relationships; I've tried to make constructive use of my time here, since it represents time away from other important things. On the other hand, I've come to realize that useful discussions on these blog pages are regularly overwhelmed by pointless wisecracks from workday shirkers, attempting to entertain themselves (at our expense) while they fight-off boredom from un-fulfilling employment or homework assignments; adding some nasty spice to the mix, I've also seen some spiritual derelicts hanging around, who desperately need to remain hateful, just to keep pumping even a small amount of blood thru their dangerously constricted, hearts. So, without an umbrella of editorial integrity & consistent enforcement of good manners in this blogspace, I often see crass attitudes overwhelming sincere ideas!
Is anyone else here concerned about making better use of their time?
however, re editorial censorship and sensitivity, i do not agree.
Pleased to make your acquaintance!
=:)
=:)
Sorry, but I'm outta here for a bit (to rescue our take-out order) - I hope that others will step forward to ensure yer precious tushie gets all the spanks & smooches it deserves this evening!
(consider this a 'debt' repaid)
=;)
Imo, CC2day most-blatantly revealed the Publication's bias thru the "lipstick they painted on the pig" - That is, the staff's selection of highly prejudicial, antique-appearing artwork to add the appearance of authenticity, to a document inherently devoid of any… (Allegedly, JC?)
.
;)
.
----------------
JAMES PATRICK LYNCH
Historical Consulting and Research Services LLC.
45 Dellwood Drive, Waterbury, Connecticut 06708, 203.573.0012 jajpl@aol.com
I. TITLE.
Ethnohistoric Consultant/ Researcher (Anthropology & History).
Genealogical Researcher.
Historic Title Researcher/Consultant.
II. EDUCATION.
Ph.D, Anthropology/History (abd.) (Ethnohistory, Sociocultural Change).
History of New York and New England Indians, University of Connecticut 1984-1991.
Master of Arts, Anthropology/History (Ethnohistory), Indians of the Northeast, Wesleyan University, Middletown, Connecticut 1983.
Bachelors of Arts, Sociology/Anthropology, Religious Studies, Southern Connecticut State University, New Haven, Connecticut 1980.
Associates in Arts, Mattatuck Community, Waterbury, Connecticut, 1978.
Title Searching, University of Connecticut, West Hartford, 2001
Advanced Title Searching, University of Connecticut, West Hartford%
Thanks CCtoday.This cleared up any questions I had about Mr Lynch, that I could not quickly (google) find the answers to.
:)
Something else you might learn in your fishing expedition to discredit James Lynch - according to Lynch, the Mashpee tribe's anthropologist and her then-client, the Paucatuck Eastern Pequot, and Donald Trump, claimed to Indian Gaming magazine that Lynch had falsified his credentials.
When the magazine was confronted with evidence that the allegation was false and threatened with a lawsuit, Indian Gaming published a retraction, paid Lynch's legal fees and compensated him for the error, again according to Lynch.
One other thing - Lynch says he's never sold an air conditioner in his life. And even if he had, I'm not sure how this has any bearing in the least on his academic and professional credentials.
Funny how the discussion turned away from the substance of what Lynch wrote into a scurrilous attempt to malign a man's character.
How about you, deltaman, what do you do for work, assuming you do? And do you have a Ph.D in history?
Now, this liar is willing to point out some things that are being consistently overlooked in these discussions; I’ve freely relinquished any claim to being the best, most-articulate person to state these things, but for your sakes’ I hope I’m still good-enough!
(Refresh or not, as you choose…)
Fact – The Mashpee Wampanoag tribe has successfully completed an arduous, decade-long process to substantiate their request to have their sovereignty restored – they are one of only two tribes east of the Missisippi, whose principles & pride made them shun the far easier political route followed by others; Thru those years, with ample opportunities for public comment, their petition was decided on its merits, without the taint of political influence.
Fact – Like it or not, residents of Cape Cod now have a “new neighbor” with a federal grant of sovereign power - of sufficient magnitude to make decisions & undertake actions which can have an enormous impact on the people & economy of this region. Screaming at them in hate or fear won’t drive them away, because they have nowhere else to go; their ancestors’ bones amply demonstrate that this has been their home for thousands of years.
(Care to don that funny hat again? Your sacrifice will be rewarded - I promise!)
deltaman, you would remember if you were gainfully employed and/or ever earned a high school diploma, college degree, etc., right?
Incidentally, you assume I'm opposed to the Mashpee Wampanoag having tribal sovereignty and receiving federal recognition. Wrong again - this man is on a streak!
Were they not turned down for sovereignty and came back with;
hmmmmm .. Jack Abramoff , political contributions, casinos, funding by casino investors to get their sovereign power ... doesn't that make the political route you speak of debatable?
You are another one not doing the tribe any favors with your words DM.
and Jack, stop wrestling with deltaman over stupid comments.
At issue here is whether the Mashpee tribe has a claim to land for a casino in Middleboro. According to James Lynch, they don't, and he's not alone. Members of the Pokanoket tribe in Rhode Island are saying the same thing, which Lynch's critics in this forum can't bring themselves to acknowledge.
That being said, I doubt it will be the last court ruling on tribal sovereignty. Reasonable people can disagree on the extent of sovereignty but count me among those who believe it must allow for some degree of autonomy and control of tribal lands or it's meaningless.
Remarkably, the Mashpee appear to bear no residual malice towards the non-native population with whom they now share their historic homeland. At the same time, I don’t detect any sense of pious obligation that they should even consider the region’s interests when devising plans to promote the Tribe’s own causes. In fact, I can easily envision that their eagerness to move forward on many fronts at this time, might produce unintended negative impacts on the region – I’ve expressed this concern repeatedly, while still finding no reason to believe that continually hurling insults at them will eventually improve their sensitivity & respect for regional interests…
I fully recognize that there's lots of heat in this room right now - your patience with me will really help me a lot with finishing this treatise quickly, while paying due respects to the issues you're facing. When finished, I'll be ready to move on - at least from this debate, in its present form. Obviously, you'll each be free to decide if this "Liar" left something useful…
So, it's all up to you Jack; do I continue?
What I do know is that you have run roughshod over the reputation and professional credentials of James Lynch in the course of more than 150 comments here, yet when challenged as to what your employment and academic credentials are, you respond with ... zilch!
tillman3, I believe you are correct, based on reading Jeff Chapter XI's previous comments. Jeff appears to share deltaman's proclivity for dodging awkward questions.
This is what I doubt. There are missions up and down the coast of CA dedicated partially to converting "savages" to Christians. I think this could be some propoganda claiming "Wampanoag" as not a tribe. If you are not a tribe, then you do not exist, if you do not exist as a people, then we (town of Mashpee, other towns) do not owe you any land.
I reject your premise, just as I would if someone suggested that a Native American could not write authentically about the history of Ireland, the home of my ancestors. To borrow the words of a wise man ideed, the color of our skin is less important that the content of our character.
Seeing how this op-ed has more than 200 comments in response, publishing it appears more than amply justified.
Just an observation on my part that you are unwilling to acknowledge that Lynch is not the only person challenging the Mashpee tribe's claim to land for a casino in Middleboro. So are members of the Pokanoket tribe in Rhode Island, and from a Native American perspective. It's not opinion on my part to point this out, nor an endorsement, it's a statement of fact.
Many days ago, I emailed Mr Lynch and asked him to come to this site and answer his critics.....still no response. Have you had the opportunity to talk with him?
Oh I get it, everything comes back to crimes against humanity involving Native Americans. Are you able to make the leap to other subjects or is that pretty much it?
'Go or no go, I have no idea what you're talking about, deltaman. Clarity is not one of your strengths. As for deltaman, deltawoman, again, no idea and even less interest.'
'What do you do for work, deltaman?'
filletofsole, whether you like it or not, the Mashpee tribe did receive federal recognition, and Marshall is no longer chairman of the tribal council (and may eventually go to jail).
You're probably right, filletofsole, but deltaman's shabby evasiveness has piqued my curiosity.
deltaman, you would remember if you were gainfully employed and/or ever earned a high school diploma, college degree, etc., right?
Fine by me, Diana. Freedom's just another word for posting where you want.
J. Coleman
SEE CCT Commenting policies (below)
CCToday commenting policy
As a fellow reporter and blogger I feel obligated to point out how disingenuous you are. Maybe you need to take a break, but that's a decision entirely your own.
@*~(( ? - Nah; no way! =;)
Diana, what's the name of your blog?
commentators are not bloggers.
the issue is not 'legality' versus 'humanism' regarding what the mashpee have confronted all citizens, native and non-native, with--in mashpee, on cape cod, in middleboro (the new atlantic city?), in massachusetts, in new england. certain commentators are spouting that they are the only 'true' natives, that this is their 'Nation,' and that they are the only heirs to our land. re-filing a 30-year lawsuit will be met this time with a countersuit. don't waste the courts' and taxpayers' time. you'll get your altantic city; but you will not take my land.
see very funny article...
You really want to build bridges, Diana? Stop with the double standards.
For someone seemingly so upset about personal attacks, you display an odd tendency to look the other way when Lynch's critics call him a liar and a racist and compare his views to Holocaust denial and even sink so low - gasp! - as to allege Lynch once may have sold air conditioners. Why the blind eye toward all that, Diana?
As for the futility of engaging in further dialogue with you, I couldn't agree more. I prefer the real thing.
"Historically there was never a Wampanoag tribe per se."?
Imagine someone telling you-- "Oh, by the way....you don't exist."
freakin white people.
And historically, there were people here before the pilgrims came. And they were systematically wiped out (slaughtered)as were the buffalo. And historically, wasn't this land named by a guy called Amerigo Vespucchi? That's when the "historical" America began. But you can't pretend there wasn't a world here before then....and that it wasn't stolen through deceit, trickery and evil-doing. At least that's what i learned in my social studies class.
I find it heart-wrenching to watch the abuse suffered by you, Diana & a few other noble souls who still believe that they might someday convince the CC2day staff to confess their errors & abandon their cynical pronouncements - without any regard for the negative professional & financial impacts such admissions could entail!
There must be easier paths to sainthood elsewhere - with opportunities to redeem far greater numbers of sinners; so why do you beautiful people continue to devote so much energy into repeatedly attempting to rescue the souls of a few sorry folk like Jack Coleman, who appear so adamantly resistant to being rescued?
Bless ya for trying!
.
"Some things you must always be unable to bear. Some things you must never stop refusing to bear. Injustice and outrage and dishonor and shame. No matter how young you are or how old you have got. Not for kudos and not for cash, your picture in the paper nor money in the bank, neither. Just refuse to bear them."--William Faulkner
Don't you feel that way too??
The "larger population" has had its chance, hasn't it? For a very long time.And the value they seem to push is $$$. So, since this decision is in the tribes hands, let them follow their own conscience, and make it. And we will have to live with it, as the tribe has had to live with decisions foisted on them for a long time too.
What's the matter, you can all dish it out, but you can't take it?
i did not insult anybody in my answer, and yet you come back with one. Why? can't you discuss without making personal attacks?
Why does the tone here always have to be negative and combative?
What is racist or bitter about what I said?
correct me if I'm wrong. You've been posting here quite awhile now. Several months ago, you blogged about a wild conspiracy theory that motivated your positons. When you make comments like "And we may find out they are no better than white people...I keep hoping to find someone who is." How do you expect us (the whites) or anyone else for that matter to respond? It's off base and offenive in general. Can you be specific with your charges?
I think your advice was/is to just leave the Mashpee tribe alone, & let them ‘do their thing’ unmolested. If I’ve read that properly, then my “Q” 2 U is how likely is that advice to be followed, if their 'thing' winds-up being perceived as a threat to the ruling class on the Cape? Just look at how loudly old-money “talks” even in opposition to something so socially innocuous as an offshore wind farm! Do you have any considered ideas for forging agreements between – or building detours around – a well-endowed, well-connected nimbi-establishment & Mashpee tribal aspirations? (This is a 'biggie' imo, so I hope there's lots of useful ideas!)
But, if it's legal for the Tribe to do as it sees fit as a Sovereign Nation, then why not do so?
I mean, since when do these well-connected people consult anybody about anything they want to do?
So, i geuss i have no good ideas....I would say "Do what's good for the Tribe, and the hell with everybody else!" But then you wold be just like the nimby's! It sure is a sticky pickle.
b-s, your head just exploded again, uh, like you know?
money--corrupt, dirty money--bought the 'sovreign' wamps their 'recognition.'
It's the only way to get anything done with this bunch in the gvt. Do you disagree with that?
Ignore all you want...you can't escape history.
So, no, I said, "they may not be any better than white people", but dammit--they deserve their chance too!
And due to the shady, lying, thieving way the "settlers" stole/swindled/broke treaties up the yin-yang with the people who were already here....white people today are going to have to eat crow for the deceptive, evil ways of the first whites who landed on these shores.
That's my opinon about it, babe.
They really have no obligation to anyone else at all, do they?
And btw--Who brought the Africans over here? And for what purpose???
Because if you think about it, the whole country came into being by wiping out the inhabitants who were already there, stealing the land, and having the Africans do all the work for free.
So, who's getting something they did not earn?
;)
I really hope that you will look again at the 'what if…?' questions I just posed to you; that's not a quiz; I don't need to know or grade your answers… I believe that your responses will all be wise ones, if you consult with both your head & your heart at least twice, before deciding on each of them…
.
:(
And as for getting something that i haven't earned.....social security may not be around when i retire, so i can't say just yet.(as of now, i'll need to work til 80 anyway, so why bother?) But i do know my grandmother , and a whole generation of women in this country did! She never worked a day in her life (outside the home), and was taken care of quite nicely by the tax-payers til she was 89. Was she a gimme girl too?
So, how can we (do we?) help them out with this problem, when tribes are forced to 'take out a huge mortgage' for just the hope of reclaiming some modest chunk of their original sovereignty?
Btw, I'm not gonna risk rekindling the recent Mashpee history 'debate' so I'll suggest anyone interested in more background to Wiki "Trail of Tears" - not much diff than scenarios that played-out throughout the good ol' US A(gainst 'them).
Nope, I don't have a 'stake' in this casino issue, beyond that of any other citizen of the Commonwealth. I'm not bitter either, but I sure am sad to see that for the most part, over 500 years, the only time we've let 'em be, was when they didn't have anything that someone else wanted! There's gotta be a price that we're all paying for that…
:(
For your sake, I hope that both are true! ;)
barbie&ken:
I have news for you, as the deal stands now, foreign investors are already going to walk away with most of the profits of the casino."
Amen brother. Maybe they will be happy with the scraps.
The whole process is sick and Deval P. has made it sicker.
He is for gaming as long as he controls it. And for Cape Wind as long as he gets his share.
Sick! And you folks voted him in.
Good Luck.
Sorry, if I leave you hanging, by signing-off for a while, Dag… Every now and again, I have to pretend to be a tiny bit domestic - adds to why I so look forward to Fridays!
;)
with real estate foreclosures in massachusetts and on cape cod at an all-time high, how beneficial is it for 'wamp/mashpee' to re-visit an unnecessary land 'reparations' lawsuit (clearly no one watched the democratic debates re 'reparations'; no candidate agrees with these claims) tying up the courts' time and residents' property, when so many of us, if the face of this state is to change into atlantic city, thanks to the extorionististic efforts of the wamp/mashpee marshall and all his/their cohorts?'
exlibris (registered user) writes:
if you know anything about history, geography, and evolution--the ice ages and the global immigration of all peoples thousands and thousands of years ago--it is highly doubtful that the mashpee simply spawned here.'
Now that we can all look forward to not only casinos and rising taxes due to cadillacman and his humiliated wife, a welfare-roll section 8 rez for a clam with no tribe. perfect. Pls re-post the victory photos of them with marshall and also the one of strather hugging marshall. V FOR VICTORY!!!!!
Where are the peaceful, non-criminal, non-bullying, non-scam/fraud Aquinnah in all this? The governor is the biggest fraud sell-out ever. Someone get a clue.
clams, NOT tribes.
'Philip was a very nasty and ugly person, completely savage and unpredictable.' Under his rule, a horrific war was fought from Connecticut to New Hampshire. He was killed by fighting....
You two are pathetic.
No, three. Jeff keeps bitter and that other crazy one very titillated and excited, in a very paranoid-schizophrenic sort of way. What an embarassment this blog is for cctoday. The news, please.
That's Pulitzer Prize material!
Again I ask, please tell us who killed Christa.
poster girl for the reality impaired
Why not go ask the knife weilding maniac who lives on outer cape...it's anyone's best guess he's the one bragging... or his friends (he has more we don't know about) or his family members who have protected him. Don't pretend like you don't know....
So, who were those men who got on a plane in Boston on 9/11?
END THE WAR NOW
OCT. 27TH--(TOMORROW)
Rally: 12 Noon, march 2pm
Boston Common
New England Mobilization to end the War
bring our troops home!
KILLED: 1,000,000,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS
3,800 U.S. TROOPS
4 MILLION DISPLACED IRAQI REFUGEES
SPENT: $500,000,000,000
GET INVOLVED www.Oct27.org
newenglandunited.org
masspeaceaction.org
statistics current: 9/25/07
(from a flyer at the train station)
We can find Sadam Hussein hiding in a foxhole, but why didn't they find BinLaden?
It's the same as cops not finding informants who have the dirt on the bad cops.....
Think about it.....we are over there fighting for oil, while our american troops keep dieing, Iraqi civilians are dieing over oil? And while americans here remain unemployed, without healthcare, elderly are neglected, social security is almost gone, corporate takeover through outsourcing our jobs, and welfare tax for the rich, housing industry in the gutter, construction is down.....
These rally's are going on in all major cities:
Boston
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York City
New Orleans
Philadelphia
Salt Lake City
San Francisco
Seattle
It's time to take our country back and stop this president from global colonization. Sadam was and evil dictator, but the Bid Laden family has been in this with the Bushes as far back as Bush Sr. presidency...all the same henchmen in power.
We have a torture method here, it's called reading crusaders comments.
Hahaha!!!
When you're at the peace rally this weekend, how about asking for a moment of silence for all our brave troops who have kept us free from attack since 9/11?
jeff, bitter, crusader, can you even read this article and pertinent threads? your obsessive paranoia and hatred are truly frightening and inappropriate here or anywhere on cctoday. you are very sick individuals. PLEASE have the men in the white coats take them back to their padded cells.'
CCtoday, this has gone far beyond idiocy. They truly have no reading or comprehension skills, just very sick, long rants over every blog on your website. Why allow this? Freedom of the press is not about lunacy.
Of course, there are many other viable news-sites. If this is the blanchard-bitter-crunutsy padded cell....They never, ever stop. You must do it, for everyone's sake. Before the fleas breed.
Looks like the natives are getting restless...maybe they are worried....and they should be!
In fact, maybe some of you should be moving on to other web-sites who share in your "religion". And you can take it from there about which "religion" i'm reffering to.
When is enough enough? I respectfully request removing the Blanchard dementia.
If you want to be a viable news source.
Blanchard, and his two crazy followers (with their Manson-like devotion) bitter and crusader, are a serious hindrance to any reputable service.
'crusader (registered user) writes: Your low tide is stinking up the place so bad, we can all smell it miles away.'
Your website has become this demented trio's place for their never-ending conspiracies, obsessions, and hate.
What is their objective besides ruining your website?
What is your objective for your site?
A readable, cc, at least somewhat family-oriented, credible news source?
Anything as awful as these three surely must go.
Read the commenting rules. They are simple. You are not allowed to add web addresses.
All comments with web addresses will be deleted.
The editors
One local who seems to know the deal....
Jeff, I will write very slowly for you...W-H-A-T I-S T-H-E T-I-T-L-E O-F T-H-I-S A-R-T-I-C-L-E?'
Add his two 'manson-devotees.' haha!
Newstip: Start your own blog called the paranoid-schizophrenics club. Motto: We have no clue and we're proud of it!'
With the never-ending rant, of course, that we all suck, and they are, mmmm, RIGHT!
Fine print: only three members allowed.
You go girl! Who killed Lincoln? Did we really land a man on the move? Is Paris Hilton a real blonde? Who shot JR? What weights more, a pound of feathers or a pound of rocks? Who is really buried in the tomb of the unknow soldier? Who really killed Ron and Nicole? Is the moon made of swiss cheese? Why do they call it Jumbo Shrimp? Which came first the chicken or the egg?
Yes crusader, normal people:)
Naw, they're just harmless kooks who think cops are worse than other people.
And some of them are. I don't think cops are better than other people, they're just people.
And crusader thinks there is a vast conspiracy among the law enforcement officials down here in quahog country.
Crusader is exalting them--the few local cops I have met have been very personable and adorable, just lambs. Who can be tough when they need to be.
And are sickened and horrified by things like CW's murder and who wouldn't think of doing anything but putting the murderer behind bars, which they did.
And they have A LOT of power. And maybe you haven't heard this statement before, but power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.Especially when it's allowed to run rampant with no oversight like it is here! So, when a police chief doesn't have to answer for a missing $10,000, what do you call that? When a state trooper is allowed to lie on the witness stand with no repurcussions, what do you call that?
And everybody should be sickened and horrified by what happened to CW, and just as sickened and horrified by what they did to CM.
BTW, all you big babies, i'm sure you can't stand Noam Chomsky either, but he did say this; "If we don't believe in the freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
We are still in America, are we not?
The first amendment is just that...first!! And most important.
'bostonian writes:
Jeff, I will write very slowly for you...W-H-A-T I-S T-H-E T-I-T-L-E O-F T-H-I-S A-R-T-I-C-L-E?'
Add his two 'manson-devotees.' haha!
Newstip: Start your own blog called the paranoid-schizophrenics club. Motto: We have no clue and we're proud of it!'
With the never-ending rant, of course, that we all suck, and they are, mmmm, RIGHT!
Fine print: only three members allowed.'
Editors/CCtoday, guess you have better things to do than to run a news-site?
You cannot see that this is a problem?
DUMP BLANCHARD AND HIS TWO MANSONITES.
Before they really cause trouble.
So, someone else can speak for me then;
"Some things you must always be unable to bear. Some things you must never stop refusing to bear. Injustice and outrage and dishonor and shame. No matter how young you are or how old you have got. Not for kudos and not for cash, your picture in the paper nor money in the bank, neither. Just refuse to bear them."--William Faulkner
Thak God for old-time America. Too bad there's not much left of it.
Looks like the natives are getting restless...maybe they are worried....and they should be!'
Worried about the Manson 3? Absolutely.
Editors of CCToday, fleas, like rats, breed, and become more than a nuisance, pestilance and disease.
Crusader, you wouldn't know the truth, or a true Native, if it beaned you off your forehead, or off this site; which the editors should do.
Manson 3, W-H-A-T I-S T-H-E T-I-T-L-E O-F T-H-I-S A-R-T-I-C-L-E?
Rant your dementia elsewhere.
And to question whether retired police chief Jim Erhart in Brewster is getting an overly fat retirement package courtesy of the boy's network in Brewster.
These are both cases of people with a little bit of power overspending taxpayer's money. This happens in all forms and levels of government every minute of the day. And we the voters are to blame for allowing it to happen.
But to accuse the district attorney and local cops of covering up a murder, dealing drugs, and generally being in cahoots with Satan is laughable.
Could you make those statements about Pina (the coke dealer and several of them his women) if you were working for a newspaper? In other words, can you back up these charges? What info do you have? Also, regarding O'Keefe, have you confirmed that the gus wasn't registered or had no serial number? You did make those charges, I'd like to see some facts being reported here.
And the really vicious personal attacks against people simply because they question the authorities is puzzling as well. Why the hatred? Hence the reference to Satanism. You surely wouldn't call that God-like behavior, would you? I mean, who loses it so much because someone asks a question?
They are too damned defensive, and it doesn't make sense.
If I knew how to clip statements out of context like the rest of you do, I'd show you.
What percent bloodline is required? One-eighth?
If a person/member has any type of criminal and/or drug history, are they removed from 'enrollment'?
How much money would each clam receive from casino profits?
Many of us are as desperate as they are to get on that gravy train and have that free-pass, get-out-of-jail free, wamp-card-in-wallet.'
Manson Trio: Read the title of this article. Oh, forgot, you can't read or write.
What is the problem?
What in the world could this person possibly be on/taking?
This is not funny.
No, Jeff, Manson, I do not want to 'play along.'
No one does, except for your demented duo.
Some of us actually would appreciate news-worthy comments.
Most, probably all of us, ignore the Manson 3's comments.
CCToday, get rid of this idiot.
Some of Your "Good Guys" aint so good. When are you going to see that? So maybe it can stop.
Once again I'll use the same logic on you that is always put to us "little people"; If you've got nothing to hide, what's the problem?
What percent bloodline is required? One-eighth?
If a person/member has any type of criminal and/or drug history, are they removed from 'enrollment'?
How much money would each clam receive from casino profits?
Many of us are as desperate as they are to get on that gravy train and have that free-pass, get-out-of-jail free, wamp-card-in-wallet.
Manson Trio: Read the title of this article. Oh, forgot, you can't read or write.
'What's with this 'we' sh*t, paleface?'
Here's a new rumor of one of the new schemes: fake 'wamp-card-in wallet' cards' to get on that gravy train.
Before we all get screwed out of this sweet deal, all aboard!
Exact connections between any prehistoric peoples cannot be determined, but they most probably migrated from the south.
Wars between the Algonquin and Iroquois bands were unending.
Tribal/band terrorities were always vague and changing.
The Iroquois played a huge part in defeating the Wampanoag and other Algonquin bands of whatever territory they were claiming as theirs.
In a vast collection of Native history and ethnology, there is little to no evidence of 'peaceful,' 'sovereign,' native bands.
Just politics as usual.
Who taught whom?
The Puritans stated in historical documents that the Natives taught them the native ways of warfare.
However, the recorded English accounts of native "warfare", such as William Wood's account and Roger Williams' account say there was no large epic slaughter tactics ala England and France here. The English colonizers fought in line formation. Many of the Puritan militia of the Bay Colony cut their teeth during the colonization of Ireland, where people fought much like the Natives here, using the land to their advantage. When this tactic thwarted the English..they resorted to scorched earth tactics, burning Irish villages. Fast Forward to 1632 when Pequot warriors were waiting to engage the Bay Colony troops, the Christian, Godly Bay Colony decided to attack and burn their village settlement instead.
The Iroquois and Algonquin were at war.
All over North America.
Get a grip.
If the cape-verdean desire segregation and a rez, let them have it, and live in poverty. The corruption and ignorance and greed of this band is atrocious.
And honest non-gambling tax-payers will have to pay for their hate.
English Colonials/Puritans may have eventually learned to use native tactics in warfare but the Puritans, as Ehrdrich originally identified, did not learn fighting tactics from the Natives...no way, no how. And Eddie, darlin', just because I cited names like Williams and Wood, doesn't make me anal hyper retentive...good heavens. Blackfeetca...everyone I'm sure fought for territory..it wasn't Disney on Ice: Land of Shimmering Peace...I mean, what's up with Atoharo and snakes on the head? Creepy. I would never, never claim the Iroqois were peaceful. I'm talking about eastern woodlands. And I'll blame Europeans for drinking bleeding Watney's Red Barrel, marching up and down, forming human pyramids..sorry went Python.
And do not ever call anyone baby you awful creton-dolt. Disgusting. You are as creepy and gross as the Cape Verdean, and have absolutely no clue whatsoever, mmmm, about anything.
Iroquois are not Huron or Micmac. So I just ignored the rest of your idiocy.
Just get off this article, since you are completely brain-dead.
No real news or comments re Dr. Lynch's article, Editors of CCToday.
CCToday is getting out-of-hand re the creepy, non-intelligence, no-education factor.
Uck, aol and their perverts' comments went out-of-style 10 years ago.
Myspace went pervert.
Now it's facepage, or something.
Craigslist, as gross as you can get.
Editors of CCToday, make up your mind.
of course, all of us who worked on the big dig built huge mcmansions on cc, just to spite you.
it's all been a huge conspiracy against you.
are you sure you're not one of the paranoid-schizophrenic manson3 who blocks any sensible news-worthy comments on this website?
What are your expectations ewwww? This site is all about selling advertising.
They brought in the "Magician" for traffic until advertisers complained.
Get a grip. This is journalism geared for National Enquirer readers. And I agree " If it sells publish it ".
If you want the truth visit Cape Cod Living.com.
I thought I was bringing up historical issues relevant to THE TOPIC. And I didn't say the MicMaq, Huron and Iroquois were the same you festering bag of gas. There, how do you like some venom, worm? Is that how you want to correspond, bring it to the low, low levels where your oozing, pustulant brood devours its young?
Or how 'bout some real exchanges on relevant topics using nice big words or can you not do that? Give me one historic issue relevant to the topic that you can back up, you bitter biter of bogusness. And, sorry noneswhere, did I strike too close to home? You did work on the Big Dig? Did you dig up Ewww while you were down there. And, unlike the high stakes gamblers who risked our wallets on the Big Dig...I've never even been to a casino.
It is probable you know who is doing this to your website. It is now truly frightening:
'minerva (registered user) writes:
I thought I was bringing up historical issues relevant to THE TOPIC. And I didn't say the MicMaq, Huron and Iroquois were the same you festering bag of gas. There, how do you like some venom, worm? Is that how you want to correspond, bring it to the low, low levels where your oozing, pustulant brood devours its young?
Or how 'bout some real exchanges on relevant topics using nice big words or can you not do that? Give me one historic issue relevant to the topic that you can back up, you bitter biter of bogusness. And, sorry noneswhere, did I strike too close to home? You did work on the Big Dig? Did you dig up Ewww while you were down there. And, unlike the high stakes gamblers who risked our wallets on the Big Dig...I've never even been to a casino.'
'maverick (registered user) writes:
This site is all about selling advertising. They brought in the "Magician" for traffic until advertisers complained.'
STOP!!!
Are you related to the "Magician"? Or are you a member of Clean Power Now?
I don't write this crap. Just comment.
Get a life.
haha
for news, always the bbc.
mav, you may be right, except for the ccliving.com.
how to comfort a girl.
Just innocent thoughts and feelings. As does CCT and it's readers and contributors.
That's what makes the Cape go round. I hope!
The governor has not said what specifically that means or whether the same preference will be given to two tribes in competition with one another.
'All of the Middleborough land included in the tribe’s application to establish a reservation with the federal government is now in the hands of the tribal council’s investors.'
Follow the (pertinent) threads.
Natives have always warred against each other, long before 'whitey' arrived.
Competition.
Natives are, and always have been, as American as Donald Trump.
The chaos within the tribal government of the Mashpee Wampanoags is a product of combined forces; the greed and darkness that can stain any soul, white or red, the greed and corruption that is being injected into their tribe by outsiders with a proven record of not dealing fairly with their Indian "partners" and simple human nature. The fact that a convicted felon headed the tribal council after he carefully orchestrated a subversion of tribal law and the fact that neither the Mass. AG or the U.S. Dept. of Justice has laid a glove on him does not help.
Let's all grow up!
We serve 28 delicious flavors of hard and soft-serve ice cream, plus CRUNCHICREME! A whole new way to enjoy candy and ice cream together! (Falmouth)
Providing 24/7 quality care that helps Cape seniors stay independent and be confident... at home. Call today to speak with a case manager and discuss all the options available to you and your loved one. (Hyannis)
This is a one-time-only process (or if you change the email on your account), and will help CCToday keep out the spammers. If you cannot validate your email because it is invalid, and you are a legitimate user, feel free to contact us and we will update your account to your current email.
Please Login or Register to leave a comment. There are 2,700 registered commenters!
CapeCodToday requires readers register an account with us in order to post comments. Become a trusted commenter and receive the benefits of posting instantly throughout the site. It's quick and easy!
Please note: If you are a CapeCodToday registered blogger, you can use your blogger login. Your login for the blogs is separate from your CapeCodToday main site login (if you have one).
About This Blog
An op-ed is a piece of writing, expressing an opinion. The name originated from the tradition of newspapers placing each columns on the page opposite to the editorial page. Thus the term "op-ed" is simply a combination of "opposite" and "editorial." The difference with this one, however, is that you can reply immediately by commenting below.
►Walter Brooks, Editor & Publisher
►Maggie Kulbokas, Editor
Recent Comments
- This is one scary bridge to cross! What happened to
40 mins ago - thank you bethany.....be story...i am so grateful for the wonderful
43 mins ago - Lets be honest. Its not the bridge's fault. 9 out
48 mins ago - As the musician once said, Have a Diminished Fourth!
1 hr, 6 mins ago - Bethany: Your Dad would have loved this: http://swingja - Tony
2 hrs, 21 mins ago
CCT Blog List
- Newest Blog Posts
- Newest Comments
- EXTRA...
- Cape Cod History
- Stoned Gull
- Entering Falmouth
- Police and Fire News
- Cape & Islands News
- Cape Native
- Rep. Jeff Perry in His Own Words
- Op-Ed
- Historic Harwich
- CapeCodToday Featured Event
- Long Bridge Runner
- Cape Cod Rock Hopper
- One Day at a Time
- Wellfleet Bay Sanctuary
- My day
- Town Notes
- Media Watch
- Off-the-Shelf
- Sea Street
- Editorial
- Latimer on Law
- Buckley's Blog
- The Poet's Perspective
- Conservative's Conscience
- Cape Cod Tracker
- Trail Hound
- Solon Economou
- Washington Window
- Reflections on a Quarter-life Crisis
- Cape Cod Pets
- The Ballyard
- Through a Washashore's Eyes
- Theatre
- Mahler's Music Notes
- Cape Cod Barrister
- Travel Tales
- Cape 20 Something
- Cape Politics
- Letters to the Editor
- Footnotes
- East of Boston
- State of Cape Cod
- The Natural
- Politicalendar
- Ned Sonntag
- CapeCodToday Arts Calendar
- The Blogfather
- Entering Bourne
- Cheap Eats
- Brewster Rec
- Cape Cod Book Reviews
- Cape Fine Dining
- Toward Democracy
- Journo
- Boston Cod
Archives
- July 2009 (2)
- June 2009 (4)
- May 2009 (1)
- April 2009 (3)
- March 2009 (9)
- February 2009 (6)
- January 2009 (4)
- December 2008 (3)
- November 2008 (4)
- October 2008 (4)
- September 2008 (3)
- August 2008 (5)
- July 2008 (2)
- June 2008 (5)
- May 2008 (4)
- April 2008 (1)
- March 2008 (5)
- February 2008 (2)
- January 2008 (3)
- December 2007 (5)
- November 2007 (3)
- October 2007 (8)
- September 2007 (6)
- August 2007 (4)
- July 2007 (10)
- June 2007 (7)
- May 2007 (6)
- April 2007 (7)
- March 2007 (7)
- February 2007 (4)
- January 2007 (2)
- December 2006 (4)
- November 2006 (2)
- October 2006 (4)
- September 2006 (3)
- August 2006 (1)
Become a CapeCodToday Blogger!
Are you passionate about your community? Do you blog or at least harbor thoughts of doing so?
If so, CapeCodToday.com would like to host your blog on our CapeCodToday weblog publishing platform.
Your comment " Mashpee is not what is commonly called an "historic or historical tribe" that is, a politically organized tribe, having its own defined territory that was in existence at the time of first sustained contact with the colonists. Mashpee was the produce of tribal disintegration and fissioning as a result of this bi-cultural collision."
The Narragansett's have been recognized by the Fed. Gov. and they are also a bi-cultural collision. Slaves from Providence interbred with the local Indians. They are still Narragansett and recognized as such.
What is the point?