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COMCAST's blue screen from hell
07/22/08 · 5:22 am :: posted by Solon
Beware the blue screen.
You've all seen it by now (unless you're already receiving digitable cable TV)--COMCAST's blue screen from hell telling you that starting June 15 (a week ago), "this channel will be moving to the digital lineup" and to call COMCAST if you want to keep receiving it.
COMCAST removed five channels so far, including MSNBC News, the Hallmark Channel, Court TV Channel, one of the C-SPAN channels and one other I don't remember and didn't watch.
So I called COMCAST and was told that MSNBC was now on Channel 118 or around there and, to keep receiving it and the other channels, I would need a digital cable box. "Free the first year," the salesman merrily announced.
And after that? "Only three dollars per month!"
"Is that per house or per TV?" I asked.
"Per TV."
"And you'll get three additional channels," the idiot enthusiastically announced. "The Game Show Channel (How did I survive without it?) and two other equally useless offerings.
I have six TVs--I've run coaxial cable throughout my house, from living room to bedroom to guest room to office to three-season room, etc.
So COMCAST took away five channels that I'm already paying for and wants an additional $18 a month to give them back. Am I crazy (always a good question) or are they?
"So you're saying I should switch to satellite TV?" I finally asked in frustration.
"You still have to have a box per TV," announced the cable-box wonder.
I think TV viewers on the Cape are at a crossroads right now--a choice between cable and satellite. The switch to digital is a technical job of which COMCAST is quite capable, not a snowjob to take channels away from us and then hold them for hostage for a higher price.
I have COMCAST cable TV and high-speed internet. I also use a Verizon internet air card when I'm sending an article from the Amazon jungle or the North Pole or from inside the jaws of a drooling crocodile. I keep COMCAST because it is faster, but, in fact, it is redundant.
Now with cable TV picking our pockets, especially in these hard times, I am getting ready to make COMCAST not only totally redundant, but obsolete.
So my questions to you all, my friends, who have satellite TV:
1) Did you switch from COMCAST?
2) Are you glad you made the switch?
3) Are you using DISH Network or DirectTV?
4) How many channels do you get and at what cost? And please add any other pertinent remarks.
Inquiring Cape Codders, especially COMCAST customers, want to know.
I remember when I used to get cable TV--including HBO--for $15 a month. Was that B.C., some of you may ask. No, it was B.D. Before deregulation. Deregulation, which was supposed to bring down our costs by allowing competition, but merely deregulated the prices which these corporate crooks can charge. Another case of goverment and the corporate world each with a hand in our pockets.
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Buzz [Member] writes:
After having satellite TV for the past 5 years, I switched back to cable. Although the picture isn't nearly as sharp, I had to take advantage of the "bundling" of internet, phone (yes I switched to comcast phone and it's fine) and cable. Saves me a lot of money. Also, with comcast I get "on-demand" that satellite doesn't offer.
Opinionator [Member] writes:
If they must whack a channel, why not Fox News? I can live without Mother Angelica but the bastards took Mika Breszinski, too.
Solon [Member] writes:
Thanks for the psychoanalysis, Julie-- "not normal." Actually we leave three TVs on in the morning for news, weather, and stock market as we move about, preparing for the day, and use only the large Sony Wega for "entertainment."
Three others "are there," from years of accummulation. And if you know me, I cannot stand anything that doesn't work, so I've hooked them all up.
Come watch the 30-year old color RCA in my three-season room. You can switch channels by remote (it is hooked up to a semi-functioning VCR), but you have to get up to change the volume. I plan to keep it another 30 years.
The problem is I don't like getting squeezed by corporations who look for every way to do so and who have the pols in their pockets allowing them to do so.
Three others "are there," from years of accummulation. And if you know me, I cannot stand anything that doesn't work, so I've hooked them all up.
Come watch the 30-year old color RCA in my three-season room. You can switch channels by remote (it is hooked up to a semi-functioning VCR), but you have to get up to change the volume. I plan to keep it another 30 years.
The problem is I don't like getting squeezed by corporations who look for every way to do so and who have the pols in their pockets allowing them to do so.
txcaper [Member] writes:
We have similar issues here in Texas. It really gripes me to be at their mercy. I am paying 127/month just for cable and high speed. Meanwhile, they advertise the above plus phone for 99/month. But, it's for NEW customers only. I am thinking about canceling service, waiting, then calling up like I am a new customer.
oh the huge manatee! [Member] writes:
I was thinking the same as Julie. 6 TV's?!?!? What's up with that? I bet you could get by just fine with 3. I had Dish Network for many years and it was great. I got such a good deal with Comcast that I ditched it and never looked back. It is best to bundle phone, internet and TV with Comcast, in my experience. I wanted to switch back to Dish NEtwork a while back, but to get the channels I wanted, it was no cheaper than Comcast, so why bother? I never mind paying $3 per month for hardware. This is because all hardware is shite these days. Paying $3 per month means that when it fries, you just bring it in and get a new one for free.
1) A: Yes, then I switched back
2) A: Yes, but you won't be in any better/different condition. You'll just have to pay 100% if hardware fails.
3) A: used to use DN
4) A: Was similar, now is same money or more to get the ch. i want
If I were you, I'd "get by" with only 3 digital comcast boxes and don't worry about $9 per month. I'm surprised anyone has 6TV's and that some folks still aren't using digital boxes for years.
1) A: Yes, then I switched back
2) A: Yes, but you won't be in any better/different condition. You'll just have to pay 100% if hardware fails.
3) A: used to use DN
4) A: Was similar, now is same money or more to get the ch. i want
If I were you, I'd "get by" with only 3 digital comcast boxes and don't worry about $9 per month. I'm surprised anyone has 6TV's and that some folks still aren't using digital boxes for years.
Solon [Member] writes:
Buzz and Manatee,
I hear you. But I don't use a landline at all; I use a cell phone exclusively. I already have COMCAST TV and internet, but I suspect they are charging me more for those two than the three in your "bundle."
As for all the TVs, I had seven, not six, but threw one out when it displeased me. Then another one was given to me (not hooked up--I'm running out of rooms.)
I can't help it--although the quality of TVs is somewhat strained, they falleth upon me like the gentle rain from heaven!
I have three to give away:
1. The 25-inch 30-year-old RCA with a fine wood cabinet. (You can pull out the TV part and make it into a bar!)
2. A 20-inch "cable ready" TV (the one that's not hooked up).
3. A 13-inch ancient TV with a cracked speaker that I use in the exercise room.
Any takers? Come and get 'em.
I hear you. But I don't use a landline at all; I use a cell phone exclusively. I already have COMCAST TV and internet, but I suspect they are charging me more for those two than the three in your "bundle."
As for all the TVs, I had seven, not six, but threw one out when it displeased me. Then another one was given to me (not hooked up--I'm running out of rooms.)
I can't help it--although the quality of TVs is somewhat strained, they falleth upon me like the gentle rain from heaven!
I have three to give away:
1. The 25-inch 30-year-old RCA with a fine wood cabinet. (You can pull out the TV part and make it into a bar!)
2. A 20-inch "cable ready" TV (the one that's not hooked up).
3. A 13-inch ancient TV with a cracked speaker that I use in the exercise room.
Any takers? Come and get 'em.
Buzz [Member] writes:
solon,
Comparing apples to apples, you'll pay the same for Satellite. They charge for "local" stations and you'll need a box for HD. Also, check with comcast and see how much more your internet will cost if your not recieving cable. Mine was about $60 per month.
Comparing apples to apples, you'll pay the same for Satellite. They charge for "local" stations and you'll need a box for HD. Also, check with comcast and see how much more your internet will cost if your not recieving cable. Mine was about $60 per month.
julie brooks [Member] writes:
No psycho analysis intended--why would you get news, weather, and stock quotes from TV when you can go online and get all the same information, plus more, when you want, without annoying commercials--way less time-consuming, without the relentless interruptions of idiotic commercials.
Maybe you just like looking at the FOX news bimbos--and who can blame you?
Comcast is simply doing what any company with a government-sanctioned monopoly would do--gouging the customers. I agree with you--the government should stay out of this business and allow competition. There is a lot I don't like about Comcast--that's why I use the Internet more than I watch TV.
Maybe you just like looking at the FOX news bimbos--and who can blame you?
Comcast is simply doing what any company with a government-sanctioned monopoly would do--gouging the customers. I agree with you--the government should stay out of this business and allow competition. There is a lot I don't like about Comcast--that's why I use the Internet more than I watch TV.
capecodjon [Member] writes:
I have not had cable for 15 years, and ya know what? I have no problem with Comcast. My kids are much smarter, too.
Cut the cable and free your life for better things. You won't miss a thing, trust me.
Cut the cable and free your life for better things. You won't miss a thing, trust me.
Buzz [Member] writes:
capecodjon,
You haven't lived until you've seen Family Guy.
You haven't lived until you've seen Family Guy.
capecodjon [Member] writes:
I said I cut the cable, I didn't hide under a rock.;)
I have seen all the Family Guy episodes for FREE ON DVD by using the automated clams network.
So again, I say, cut the cable, borrow a DVD or two from the library. You might pick up a book by accident, too.
You'd be surprised how abstaining from TV can make you more aware of how presposterous most of it is. When I see TV by accident in a waiting room I am struck by its absolutely empty and annoying nature. Everything is flashy, plastic, devoid of depth. What masquerades as depth is weird, sad stories, the weirder, the better.
There are obvious exceptions, but they are so mired in the toxic stew of context to show their real value.
I have seen all the Family Guy episodes for FREE ON DVD by using the automated clams network.
So again, I say, cut the cable, borrow a DVD or two from the library. You might pick up a book by accident, too.
You'd be surprised how abstaining from TV can make you more aware of how presposterous most of it is. When I see TV by accident in a waiting room I am struck by its absolutely empty and annoying nature. Everything is flashy, plastic, devoid of depth. What masquerades as depth is weird, sad stories, the weirder, the better.
There are obvious exceptions, but they are so mired in the toxic stew of context to show their real value.
noggin [Visitor] writes:
I somewhat cut the cord years ago - I only get the most basic service - channels 2-20, now less 3. I'm sorry because I often watched channel 3. In the past few years I've mostly watched the three public stations. I wish they would bag those awful evalgelicals on the God channel and give me something else. Why is it that no normal religion is represented on that station? I gave up all the channels because I could not find shows I wanted to watch often enough to justify the cost.
It only costs about $14 a month and barely worth it. I feel sorry for those who spend more. I get Netflix and I go to the library for books and movies.
I also cut back my internet connection to the little hyped "economy" plan - it's about $25 a month and I don't notice any difference in speed.
What we need is competition - I think Barnstable is now an open competition town - hope Verizon gives comcast a run for the money.
It only costs about $14 a month and barely worth it. I feel sorry for those who spend more. I get Netflix and I go to the library for books and movies.
I also cut back my internet connection to the little hyped "economy" plan - it's about $25 a month and I don't notice any difference in speed.
What we need is competition - I think Barnstable is now an open competition town - hope Verizon gives comcast a run for the money.
Buzz [Member] writes:
capejon,
Wheeew, just glad you haven't deprived yourself of Family Guy. Do the kids get to watch.... or do you sneak a peak after they go to bed?
Televisions now come with "remotes" if you happen to come across something "devoid of depth" (you must of got that from one of those there books) you can change the channel. Discovery, History, PBS to name a few, offer enlightening programming.... The Simpsons is pretty awesome too.
Wheeew, just glad you haven't deprived yourself of Family Guy. Do the kids get to watch.... or do you sneak a peak after they go to bed?
Televisions now come with "remotes" if you happen to come across something "devoid of depth" (you must of got that from one of those there books) you can change the channel. Discovery, History, PBS to name a few, offer enlightening programming.... The Simpsons is pretty awesome too.
pittsburgh [Member] writes:
I had Comcast cable years ago and became annoyed at their greed. The bills went up, problem resolution time on the phone went up, service and stations offered went down. So years ago I cut the cord. No cable, no land line - cell phone only and went to a mac and use the airport. I have saved a lot of money and read a lot of books. If it isn't within the range of my rabbit ears (I get more than 20 stations, some better than others), or if there isn't something that interests me, I have plenty of other things that demand my attention. I have applied for and received the box certificates and if that doesn't pan out, I'll reconsider my position. But, I will try to avoid Comcast. I can't stand that company's arrogance and greed.
Krista [Member] writes:
You're absolutely right Solon. They are theives and we are the willing victims. Moving MSNBC was the most egresious exercise of their masculin muscle. They screwed us good. I'm going switch to Direct TV. That way I can subscribe to Al Jazerra too.
justiceforall [Member] writes:
I would never give up my cable. I do believe however that Comcast needs to be regulated. I hate government regulation, but Comcast stretches the limits of the free market.They want to be treated like a public utility when it suites their purposes, but no other "public utility" bills for it's services in advance like Comcast does. The phone company can only look on with envy!
capecodjon [Member] writes:
Buzz, Big Simpsons fan, too!
I understand that there's some decent programming, all of which can be watched on youtube or DVD. So when I miss that must-see thing, I can just watch it there. I know my strategy isn't for everyone, but I swear that raising kids without television is one of the best things you can do for them.
I understand that there's some decent programming, all of which can be watched on youtube or DVD. So when I miss that must-see thing, I can just watch it there. I know my strategy isn't for everyone, but I swear that raising kids without television is one of the best things you can do for them.
bipr [Member] writes:
My parents still have the 1958 BW Magnavox that my brothers and I grew up with LOL. Of course, they have about 4 other TVs (most accumulated through '70s and '80s) for the 2 of them, too. We have one TV hooked up for cable and a small analog for the PS2. If it weren't for the Simpsons, we'd probably be more willing to make the CCjon cold-turkey switch :-)
Cable's expensive... but what really gets me are cell phone plan charges, even the most basic.
Cable's expensive... but what really gets me are cell phone plan charges, even the most basic.
julie brooks [Member] writes:
Well, Solon I have learned a lot from reading these comments and I hope you have too. See how many alternatives there are to the fuddy-duddy approach of passively paying your bill, watching and waiting for some stock quotes to float by, waiting for some news to float by, all the while driving yourself insane listening to commercials. This is how people watched TV in the 50's thru the 70's.
Now, replace any or all of your Comcast watching with the following activities:
-Getting up-to-date information from the Internet
-recording your regular shows using TiVo and skipping the commercials
-Renting DVD's of past shows and series from video stores, libraries, and Netflix. Ditto for movies--bleep the pay Comcast on Demand--it sucks
Comcast is never going to lower its rates no matter how much we gripe. If you're so hooked on the conventional tube that you have 6 TV's and are unwilling to change your viewing habits, then your addiction is costing you an extra $18/mo. Not bad. $216/yr, and if you live another 40 years, that's $8640 total. Not a lot of money really.
Now, replace any or all of your Comcast watching with the following activities:
-Getting up-to-date information from the Internet
-recording your regular shows using TiVo and skipping the commercials
-Renting DVD's of past shows and series from video stores, libraries, and Netflix. Ditto for movies--bleep the pay Comcast on Demand--it sucks
Comcast is never going to lower its rates no matter how much we gripe. If you're so hooked on the conventional tube that you have 6 TV's and are unwilling to change your viewing habits, then your addiction is costing you an extra $18/mo. Not bad. $216/yr, and if you live another 40 years, that's $8640 total. Not a lot of money really.
Solon [Member] writes:
Julie, Julie, Julie,
Where are all these wild assumptions coming from about ME? I was the one who raised the questions.
But to answer yours:
- I get almost all my news from the internet, in fact I subscribe to a variety of news services, not the least being c2today for local news.
- I don't have or want TiVo, because I'm not glued to watching movies or inane TV shows. And I don't
drive myself "insane listening to commercials." I mute them and then make love to three nymphomaniacs till the show starts again.
-I do rent DVDs. I like RedBox at $1 a throw. It's cheap, and I may able to save enough money some day to take Walter to lunch.
-Six TVs, yes, three of which I never turn on and am trying to give away.
-And as far as "passively paying" my bill, the thrust of my article was what are the alternatives? No one has to stay with Comcast, or Verizon, or DishTV, or DirectTV.
OR our elected representatives who allow these scam artists to charge what they want.
Where are all these wild assumptions coming from about ME? I was the one who raised the questions.
But to answer yours:
- I get almost all my news from the internet, in fact I subscribe to a variety of news services, not the least being c2today for local news.
- I don't have or want TiVo, because I'm not glued to watching movies or inane TV shows. And I don't
drive myself "insane listening to commercials." I mute them and then make love to three nymphomaniacs till the show starts again.
-I do rent DVDs. I like RedBox at $1 a throw. It's cheap, and I may able to save enough money some day to take Walter to lunch.
-Six TVs, yes, three of which I never turn on and am trying to give away.
-And as far as "passively paying" my bill, the thrust of my article was what are the alternatives? No one has to stay with Comcast, or Verizon, or DishTV, or DirectTV.
OR our elected representatives who allow these scam artists to charge what they want.
jimhughes [Member] writes:
Hi all. Jim Hughes from Comcast’s Boston office here. I thought I’d weigh in to explain the reasoning behind the move of some channels from our analog lineup to our digital lineup. With more than 70 percent of our customers in New England now receiving digital service and one analog channel taking up the same amount of bandwidth as 10 digital channels (or three HD channels), these changes will enable us to make better use of our network for our customers. We’ll be able to deliver enhancements that our customers have requested, like more HD programming, more On Demand programming and faster Internet speeds. While other providers are doing away with analog service altogether, we will continue providing low-cost analog service for the foreseeable future.
Solon [Member] writes:
Hi Jim,
Thanks for weighing in. I understand bandwidth and that digital is where TV technology leads.
It is the "providing low-cost analog service" part that bothers me. Where is the LOWER-cost digital service? Since you can get 10 digital channels on the same bandwidth as ONE analog channel, why isn't the cost LOWER for digital instead of higher? That's a 1000% increase in number of channels for the same bandwidth.
You've read the other options discussed by other readers here. Aren't you just shooting yourselves in the foot?
Thanks for weighing in. I understand bandwidth and that digital is where TV technology leads.
It is the "providing low-cost analog service" part that bothers me. Where is the LOWER-cost digital service? Since you can get 10 digital channels on the same bandwidth as ONE analog channel, why isn't the cost LOWER for digital instead of higher? That's a 1000% increase in number of channels for the same bandwidth.
You've read the other options discussed by other readers here. Aren't you just shooting yourselves in the foot?
jimhughes [Member] writes:
Hi Solon. Buzz already made some of these points, but I think I can add a few more specifics. Our digital cable service offers a lot more to consumers than either analog or satellite service. Digital cable includes On Demand, which provides more viewing choices and more control over what you watch and when you watch it (our digital customers can access more than 10,000 On Demand programs every month, the vast majority of them for no additional cost). Digital service also offers a sharper picture, better sound, 47 music channels, and the ability to add options like HD service and DVRs. As for the other technologies that have been discussed here this week, if you’ll excuse a quick plug (of something that is free and relevant to this discussion), we recently launched a new website called Fancast – www.fancast.com. Fancast offers an amazing library of programs that anybody with an Internet connection can watch whenever they want. Anyways, I hope I’ve answered your questions, Solon. Thanks for the opportunity to participate in the conversation.
jimhughes [Member] writes:
Hi everybody. I just thought I'd quickly let you all know that the benefits of the channel changes now are starting to come to fruition. We launched seven new HD channels today: Disney HD, ABC Family HD, TLC HD, AMC HD, Science Channel HD, TMC (The Movie Channel) HD and Showtime2 HD. This was made possible by the recent channel realignment, and more is on the way. We already offer consumers the most HD choices at any given time (500+), and these and other launches will get us to 1,000 choices at any time by the end of the year. Thanks again for this discussion.
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The not-so-new way to watch TV is to TiVo or use Windows Media Center to record the shows you want, and then that way you can watch shows on any computer and you can fast-forward through any commercials. We have one digital cable box which runs through one computer and we can watch shows on our one TV or two computers.
Of course, if you're a Red Sox addict and can't miss a pitch, and need to have TV's in multiple rooms, then $18/mo. is a small price to pay for an addiction.