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Barnstable may target panhandling, loitering by street people

Business official will request ordinances against panhandling, loitering
Frustration grows over behavior of some street people in Hyannis

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Homeless and non-homeless residents joined merchants, town officials and social service agency workers Tuesday night at the Federated Church in Hyannis to discuss street people in the village.

By James Kinsella

In the wake of a contentious meeting Tuesday night about the behavior of some street people in Hyannis, a business group official will ask the Barnstable Town Council to pass ordinances against panhandling and loitering.

Cynthia Cole, executive director of the Hyannis Main Street Business Improvement District, said she will ask town councilor James M. Tinsley Jr., who represents Precinct 9 in Hyannis, to bring the ordinances before the council.

janice_homeless_298Town councilor Janice Barton also represents In From the Street, a group that seeks to help chronically homeless.

Moving in the same direction, town councilor J. Gregory Milne, who represents Precinct 13, said the time may have come to enforce the $300 fine against camping in town conservation areas. The target here would be the homeless camps in the conservation area south of the former National Guard armory on South Street.

Cole also wants to halt grant funding for social services that are based in Hyannis. She said the services should be spread across Cape Cod, with its population of 250,000, rather than concentrated in the village of Hyannis, with its population of about 15,000.

As it is, Cole said, the presence of extensive social services is a magnet that draws homeless people not only from the rest of the Cape, but from elsewhere in Massachusetts.

Patience with the behavior of a number of street people has come to an end for Cole, as well as for a number of Main Street merchants and some residents of nearby neighborhoods.

Patience with the behavior of a some Hyannis street people has come to an end for a number of Main Street merchants and some residents of nearby neighborhoods.

Recurring complaints include public urination and defecation, shouted obscenities and public intoxication.

Barnstable Police Chief Paul MacDonald said a small number of street people are the source of most of the problems. Chief MacDonald said only a small minority of the homeless people in Hyannis cause trouble over and over. Estimates range as low as a dozen people.

But those small numbers cause a lot of trouble for merchants who are trying to compete with businesses in other Cape towns for the retail dollar, as well as for nearby residents who would rather not have people camping behind their backyards or breaking into their homes.

Frustration on the part of a number of merchants and residents, and anger on the part of a number of homeless people, were major themes at Tuesday's meeting, billed as an informational forum on street people.

Held at the Federated Church, the forum drew more than 150 people from a wide cross-section of the Barnstable community. The Hyannis Civic Association, the Hyannis Chamber of Commerce and the Hyannis Main Street district sponsored the meeting. Prominent Barnstable attorney Patrick Butler served as moderator.

While Cole and others sounded the mantra of decentralization, a number of social service providers questioned the pragmatism of that goal, given Hyannis's status as the Cape's transportation hub and the difficulty of getting elsewhere on the Cape for people who can't afford a car.
Cole also acknowledged that discouraging panhandling and loitering might run into constitutional issues.

deb_homeless_298Deborah Converse, chief executive officer of Hyannis Chamber of Commerce, shares concerns of business community.

The forum, which lasted more than two and one-half hours, was steeped in the complexity of the homeless issue. Tales of homeless people who, with the help of service providers, turned their lives around were mixed in with reports by merchants and residents of obnoxious and sometimes frightening behavior.

A chicken-and-egg controversy also arose as to whether the growth of human services in Hyannis was a response to an expanding problem, or an industry that has flourished as it has attracted more and more clients to the village. Homeless people also differed on the relative helpfulness of those agencies.

"I didn't ask for social services, I didn't receive social services, I don't want any social services, because they really aren't there."
        - Homeless Hyannis man

One homeless man said he hadn't forfeited his status of an American citizen to live where he pleased, including the streets of Hyannis.

"We're real Americans," he said. "I'm an American. I didn't ask for social services, I didn't receive social services, I don't want any social services, because they really aren't there."

Meanwhile, the non-homeless began to speak of pinpointing the most troublesome street people and getting the court system to take action against them.

Cole is disinclined to sit through more meetings to discuss the issue. "I've been working on this for 20 years," she said.

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Larry Brown, a teacher at Cape Cod Academy in Osterville, said he heard anger Tuesday night on both sides of the homeless issue.

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10/29/08 @ 5:39 am
possee [Member] writes:
Let's clear the streets of the panhandlers and beggars!The most important issue facing Barnstable?
There must be 100's of thousands thrown at the problem, yet a dozen or so wayward citizens can not be sheltered?

Perhaps an in depth investigation of where all this social service money is spent will result in something resolved...maybe not!

An obvious question would be...
With all the illuminaries in Social services, and their respective degrees,and an ample budget, why can they not house these people and assist them according to their needs?

Now a panel of local elected officials must do the job of those supposedly paid to handle the problem?

Again, government money and hacks creating more problems...

Meanwhile, at Beacon Hill, the real robber barons and pan handlers(" of obnoxious and sometimes frightening behavior.") are raiding the constituents for real money on a daily basis..legally..

When is that problem going to be addressed?

possee
10/29/08 @ 6:10 am
ex-cranberry bogman [Member] writes:
I hope the ACLU comes to Hyannis to
frustrate the Gestapo tactics of people
like J. Gregory Milne.
10/29/08 @ 7:06 am
Jonathan [Member] writes:
While I support the idea of a thoughtful, lawful solution to these problems, i honestly wonder about fining the destitiute.
10/29/08 @ 7:08 am
Jonathan [Member] writes:
Re:ACLU- They are probably buzzing already.
10/29/08 @ 7:50 am
Democrant [Member] writes:
Let's see, you fine people that have no money, so instead they end up in jail and you end up paying to house them there? Makes all the sense in the world to me......
10/29/08 @ 3:11 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
The "Homeless in Hyannis" problem is over.

They will all receive a check after Nov. 4 and buy waterfront property.
10/29/08 @ 8:11 pm
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Some facts (sorry to spoil the fun): the guy pictured on the front page of the Cape Cod Times --- I first saw him in late June in the middle of the day in the middle of Ocean Street fighting with his 'girlfriend' whose pants were down at her ankles. These same two and three friends have twice caused disturbances in the middle of the night on the Hyannis green that caused an adjacent motel owner to refund nearly a dozen room nights for people who were awakened, plus those who simply left.

Two things left out here,both revealed last night: 80% of the homeless in Hyannis are from off-Cape: 10% of all the homeless cause 95%+ of the problems. These are the drunks, junkies and criminals whom the shelters will not allow in for the night, including the CC Times poster boy. Hyannis Fire District made ambulance runs costing $130K last year for homeless...many were "frequent fliers."

The criminals make all homeless look bad. Last night's forum was NOT supposed to be an open meeting about homelessness but a forum about problems in Hyannis with disruptive people. And they came.
10/29/08 @ 8:23 pm
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
I notice no mention of the used hypodermic needles on Main Street or the groups of 'homeless' who terrorize patrons of sidewalk restaurant seating, or the unfortunates who defecate in various places in and around the town green or the misunderstood who fling trash all over the town green and both public and private spaces or the drunks who sit on the benches at the approaches to the bus station growling at the tourists or the woman who walked down Ocean Street on July 4 toward the concert wearing a t-shirt and sneakers (only) through the crowds of families or the early morning Bud Society who sit in front of Bank North and pass around their GIQs or the jerk in the kilt who chased Cong. Delahunt down main Street screaming obscenities at him on a July Sunday afternoon or the goons who inhabit Main Street doorways in the late afternoon and drive customers away from Cafe Dolce or the junkies who buy and sell in the Ocean street parking lot across from the CCT building (oops) and sometimes smash car windows. Maybe one meeting is not enough to know what really happens? Ask the cops.
10/29/08 @ 8:50 pm
kapekodda [Member] writes:
You hit the nail on the head with your last post Peter. Enough is enough! Something needs to be done and soon! I hate to see business on Main St suffer because of this. Personally, I love to shop, but I go to Falmouth, Mashpee, Chatham, Provincetown, Orleans, Wellfleet because I do not feel safe in Hyannis on Main St.
10/29/08 @ 9:05 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
Why not just call Janet J? Am sure she can solve the problem. That is if she survives the recall.

Better yet! I prefer the homeless.
10/29/08 @ 9:26 pm
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Kapekodda et al -

The issue is very simple...those who disrupt should be banished from the county. The ancient law is still on the books and was actually used in 1979 against a man from Dennis (Gary Nickerson was the prosecutor who recommended this case).

Whenever the social service folks are raising money they go to the Main Street merchants for support and they get it....then when the main street merchants need help with the vagrants and the vandals these same service providers call them cruel and insensitive.

To use Walter's words...talk about pissing people off. The next time one of these unfortunates threatens me i think I'll introduce him to Uncle Fist....or maybe Bobby boot. If the Salvation Army won't deal with these criminals why should the Main Street business community and their visitors? Why should the police be made into a social service organization? Why should the fire department become a pooper-scooper for human piles? The truly needy suffer because of the truly malicious.

Say hello to Phil, the kilted menace.
10/29/08 @ 11:06 pm
ex-cranberry bogman [Member] writes:
Peter Kenney begins his post with these words "Some facts" and procede to
dictate his account of what claims he saw
on Ocean St. regarding Arcenio Lopez Jr.
It's HIS word, his account and the oldest trick in the book and present it as "fact". Weak minds fall for this and there's no shortage of them on the internet. They need valid information, not hearsay.
Some things mentioned about the incidents in Hyannis I will agree with,
but since they're posted by a man who advocates physically assaulting the homeless, the credibility of these
"facts" is akin to a fox guarding a henhouse.
He also posts "Those who disrupt should be banished from the county. The ancient law--"
This is 2008 and the integrity of this "ancient law" (i'd like to know a little more about this) may be in question in today's society. There were
also "ancient laws" to burn witches.
At the end he posts:
"The truly needy suffer because of the truly malicious"
I could'nt think of any greater human NEED than food and shelter.
His previous three posts dance right over this undeniable FACT.
10/29/08 @ 11:25 pm
ex-cranberry bogman [Member] writes:
I'm not out to put anybody down and I don't want to get stuck in that "internet forum" trap.
It's just so contemptable to see the weakest part of society (the homeless)
attacked en masse. It emulates the animal kingdom big-dog-eats-little-dog
mentality.There's nothing human about it.
10/29/08 @ 11:28 pm
karent2 [Member] writes:
One comment for the bums;
"Get a job or get the hell off the cape."
10/30/08 @ 2:43 am
ex-cranberry bogman [Member] writes:
Thank You.
You've just proved my point.
10/30/08 @ 7:31 am
Ned [Member] writes:
karen karen karen-- how many paychecks away from homelessness are you?
10/30/08 @ 10:42 am
username [Member] writes:
The Police and Fire Chiefs who deal with the documented problems on a daily basis outlined the problems. Residents said they have cause for fear and want the problem solved. Merchants have experienced the negative impacts of the problem as well. Of the more than a dozen agencies represented there, not one got up and acknowledged that there is a problem. One actually suggested that residents who are concerned about people living in the woods next to their homes and have had their homes broken into, should invite them in and feed them. The concentration of social services is having a negative impact on our quality of life and the abilty of merchants to run their businesses. Councilor Barton in her role as a Town Councilor failed to do her job by saying we understand your concerns and problems and we will work together to fix it. All the providers could address was defending their roles, they totally missed the point.
10/30/08 @ 11:16 am
crusader [Member] writes:
Get rid of the big drug dealers on the Cape who supply dope to your homeless.

Get rid of the people in the non-profits who don't help solve the problem, but instead allow it to perpetuate so they have job security.

Whomever suggested the residents should "invite them in to their homes" should be the first one to go.

Someone go find Mary Clements, former RN of the Noah Shelter who went up against who she called "femme nazi of town hall", and got escorted out for not going along while pointing out the serious issues surrounding homeless in downtown Hyannis. No surprise here when I read her story. Doesn't Mary know that whistleblowers all get labeled as "crazies" or "disgruntled unemployables" who should get the hell off the island if they don't like the dune grown unhospitality and cronyism? Time to clean the political dune shacks...maybe then you can get rid of the level III sex offenders, heroin and crack addicts.

Build some rehabs instead of golf courses. Why should the merchants & residents suffer for a few blowhards who won't leave their political cushy seats?

10/30/08 @ 11:32 am
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Hey, Bogman...don't take my word for the Arcenio incident...ask the Barnstable police. I will not be threatened by street people. Do you remember the expensive wood roofed gazebo that was built in front of the Hyannis post office as a place for pedestrians to sit and relax in the Hyannis downtown area? Do you remember the homeless rabble who sat in it alll day every day drinking and telling at passers by? Do you remember it was finally removed because it was more trouble than it was worth?

As for our friend Arcenio and his occasionally & publicly half naked "girlfriend" these are the pople who cause the most trouble for the peaceful homeless who need help and are routinely assisted by the social service agencies in Hyannis. These are the types of people, in fact they are some of the actual people, who terrorize Main Street businesses, customers, tourists and pedestrians. A thug is thug whether homeless or not. I personally saw the Barnstable Chief of police arrest your frind Arcenio for drinking in public (10:00 am), the chief himself...go tell him Arcenio is a beautiful guy.
10/30/08 @ 11:40 am
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
As for whether or not what I have posted here about the meeting in hyannis is factual, have no fear. The entire meeting was video recorded and i believe will be telecast on public access televison soon.

Perhaps we have a Main Street needle collection Saturday sometime or maybe a PUBLIC PLACE POOP SCOOP so the noble savages of Hyannis will be able to feel safe and clean as they wander the streets in search of mayhem.

At some point the offensiveness and menace presnted by certain people becomes unacceptable, Bogman. I find it hard to believe you would tolerate the antics and loud ravings of Arcenio and his chums in your own house or yard, so why should he be tolerated in the doorways of main Street businesses, or the approaches to the Transportation center, or the hyannis docks or the benches in front of bank North? Spen a littel time on maun Street and see what goes on, what actually happens. Better yet, open a business on main Street that relies on foot traffic...then come at me after you have met Arcenio and his folks up close, every day. His 'girl' is the half naked one.
10/30/08 @ 12:13 pm
karent2 [Member] writes:
Ned,
you'll be on the streets long before me. Oh, and that bum, get a job comment? That's geared toward you too.
10/30/08 @ 1:05 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Hey Neddy, Mav and possee...if you're interested, read Nov. issue of Boston Magazine--Joe Keohane, my favorite writer, "NO-SIN ZONE"...and Paul Kix, "DISPATCHES"...two great stories....even though they employ that no good feeding jackal Manso from time to time....not every mag is perfect either.
10/30/08 @ 1:14 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
How to handle panhandlers or others who accost you on the street:

In a previous lifetime I used to travel regularly to Washington DC, where I was accosted at least twice per block by panhandlers. I learned very quicky how to handle them. I simply smiled at them warmly and started talking to them in Greek. They quickly imagined I had no idea what they were talking about and trotted off to the next target.

Lesson: Learn a second language! Occasionally, for kicks, I'd use Spanish. "Lo siento, no habl'Anglais." Once in a while the panhandler would be of Latino descent and would then ask me in Spanish. To which I replied in English, "I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish, either."

That would leave them scratching their head for the next ten minutes.

Don't be angry, don't be offended, nicely say no in a second language and have fun doing it!
10/30/08 @ 1:41 pm
Ned [Member] writes:
Get a blog, troll. And Solon, having fun at the homeless' expense is similarly bad karma to k2 wishing me homeless. Honi soit qui mal y pense.
karent2 [Member] writes:

Ned,
you'll be on the streets long before me. Oh, and that bum, get a job comment? That's geared toward you too.
10/30/08 @ 5:01 pm
smahkcep [Visitor] writes:
Solon...

How U say in Greek:

"Get outta my way or I kick you in the nads"?
10/30/08 @ 5:19 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
Ned, I didn't say "homeless," I said "panhandler." Some drive Mercedes home at the end of their "work day."

While I WAS having fun in DC I was also being kind. Smiling and speaking another language so that they'll just walk away with their feelings intact is a lot kinder than saying, "Get out of my face. I'm busy! I'm planning the invasion of Iran! Get a job!"

My karma is fine on this one.

10/30/08 @ 9:42 pm
karent2 [Member] writes:
My karma is just fine too, thank you. get a blog? Is that what you equate to a job? You really are a bum! Talk about bad karma! You live off the welfare dime while the rest of us actually produce something and make something of our existance and you think you have good karma? There is a special level of Dante's inferno waiting for you sweetie.
10/31/08 @ 9:49 am
Ned [Member] writes:
Solon you're stuck in the Reagan 80s fantasizing that 'panhandlers'(probably a 19thCentury idiom)are 'welfare queens' owning Mercedeses. We're the last ones to know what karma has in store for us. Assuming you're covered tempts fate further. Karen you likewise are fantasizing- my 'welfare' consists of a free colonoscopy I got from the state earlier in the year. I'm the licensing artist for one of America's most beloved classic-animation characters. You've probably got my art on a magnet on your refrigerator. I pay a goodly chunk of my income in taxes for the privilege of living amongst the highly-educated citizenry of Massachusetts, present company excepted.
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