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Cape car dealers await Congress's bailout decision

Say economic fallout of automakers' failure would hammer U.S. economy
Honda dealer asserts Detroit companies must change their business model

By James Kinsella

When representatives of Detroit's Big Three automakers appeared before Congress last week to ask for a $25 billion bailout, a number of Cape Codders were even more interested than most other Cape residents.

Owners, managers and workers at Puritan Pontiac Buick GMC, Ford of Hyannis and Premier Cape Cod, which hold Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep vehicle franchises, were hoping that the federal government would agree to provide financial help for the struggling Detroit automakers.

Congress, however, provided no immediate relief, apparently as turned off by the individual private jets that each of the Big Three's executives rode in on as the lack of detailed plans for putting the requested aid to good use.

"The consequences are staggering. In this country, there are so many jobs involved... We have got to get something."
                  - Richard Covington
                     Ford of Hyannis

The Big Three - General Motors, Ford and Chrysler - have until Tuesday, Dec. 2 to present a plan to Congress on how they would use the money.

The Cape business people who sell Big Three vehicles say they understand the need for a plan, as well as the massive economic fallout if one or more of the carmakers fail.

"The consequences are staggering," said Richard Covington, president of Ford of Hyannis. "In this country, there are so many jobs involved... We have got to get something."

"If the government can't help the carmakers return to success, Joe Laham, owner of Premier Cape Cod said, "someone is going to pay" - not only the workers at the Big Three and their suppliers who lose their jobs, but other Americans who will have to cover their unemployment benefits.

The dealers also said the Big Three executives didn't really have a choice in how they traveled to Washington, D.C. - that their employment contracts specify their manner of travel so as to protect their security for the corporations.

That being said, the dealers say they understand how members of Congress and their constituents would react to the private-jet travel at a time when so many people are hurting.

They also appreciate that Congress wanted a better, more detailed plan as to how the companies planned to use the money to turn their operations around.

"It's like applying for a job without a resume."
- Joe Laham, of Premier Cape Cod, on executives' failed plea

Jim Costas, one of the owners of Puritan Pontiac, said he wasn't disappointed by Congress's rejection of the executives, but he was surprised that the executives weren't more in tune with the mood of Congress and the country.

Laham said of the executives' approach: "It's like applying for a job without a resume."

The dealer said Congress made the right decision to insist on a better, more detailed plan.

What is hurting the auto industry, Laham said, is what is hurting the housing and other industries across America: the sharp tightening of credit.

These days, he said, even people who have good credit scores are being getting turned down for financing because of broader concerns about their long-term financial security.

One observer who said Detroit has to embark on a new approach is Jay Goodwin, one of the owners of Hyannis Honda.

"I think Congress was on the right track," Goodwin said Friday. "The Big Three companies all have been failing with their business models for years."

To give the automakers money now, Goodwin said, would be completely irresponsible.

He sees bankruptcy reorganization as the only way for the Detroit automakers to free themselves from union contracts that he said hurts their ability to compete in the marketplace.

"The Big Three companies all have been failing with their business models for years."
                           - Jay Goodwin
                              Hyannis Honda

In contrast, Goodwin said, Honda and Toyota don't need help, given their strong balance sheets and abundance of cash.

At the same time, he sees the dire straits of the Detroit automakers as "extremely tragic" for the entire nation.

Nothing would be better, he said, than to have a healthy Big Three, even if that means his own dealership would face more competition for customers. "Competition makes everyone better," he said.

Laham said Congress should base its aid to each automaker on what that particular company is prepared to offer. For example, he said Chrysler's leader, Robert Nardelli, is prepared to slash his compensation to help put a deal together.

At present, Costas said, business is slow as people wait to see what Congress does.

"Obviously, whatever decision the government makes depends on whatever the three leaders come back with," he said.

Even though the Big Three's executives didn't initially get the help they sought, Covington anticipates Congress eventually will provide aid.

"I'm one of those guys who believe they are going to get help," Covington said.

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11/28/08 @ 6:07 pm
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Some interesting facts, kids: there are lots of UAW folks assembling cars and being paid north of $40.00 per hour plus cradle-grave benefits. Chrysler signed a UAW contract requiring them to continue paying laid-off workers the difference between their unemployment $ and 95% of their full wage...how do you save money by idling a plant if you still have to pay the non-working workers?

Chrysler's CEO was forced out as CEO of Home Depot...a move once described as the only thing he had ever done to make money for Home Depot. He received mega-million$ in $everance pay. Now Chrysler pays him $15 million per year to learn the auto business while he runs the company...into the ground. Honda showed a net income of $2 billion last year and paid their CEO $1 million per year.

What am I missing? When the CEO of GM told a congressional committee this past week that GM is doing well in its foreign operations and was asked why that money is not used to prop us U.S. operations he had no answer...and he is paid $21million per year.

What a country!
11/28/08 @ 6:13 pm
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Some really disturbing arithmetic:

Round off a 52 - week year into 50 weeks:

$10,000 per week = $500,000 per year.

$20,000 per week = $1,000,000 per year.

$15,000,000 per year = $300,000 per week. (Chrysler CEO)

$21,000,000 per year = $420,000 per week. (GM CEO)

Poor babies!
11/28/08 @ 6:43 pm
Monponsett [Member] writes:
We should let Detroit die, but force the Japanese to give every American a free Camry every three years as a sort of apology for Pearl Harbor.
11/28/08 @ 7:58 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Don't forget each took a private jet to beg for help. Arrogance is no excuse, it's a major liability in mental pathology plaguing the corporate greed of US.

Btw, $218 is what Chrysler CEO raped from Depot. No one deserves that much of a "please just go away", cashout. I don't care how good they think they are....how much is that by the weekly paycheck? And they talk about fascism. Well, guess what boys and girls. Welcome to the elite takeover. How much are the Rockefellars and Rothschilds worth now? Next book they should write is how the rich ruined the free world via outsourcing, overspending on a phoney war and hedgefund housing scam.
11/28/08 @ 8:07 pm
cw rice [Member] writes:
Mr. Goodwin's trenchant comments on competition reminds me of another early automobile industrialist's quote
“Live daringly, boldly, fearlessly. Taste the relish to be found in competition - in having put forth the best within you”
–Henry J. Kaiser

H. J. Kaiser gave us the ubiquitous Jeep among his products. The problem with the American automobile industry is when they became both complacent after the Korean War ended and allowed the UAW free reign in labor contracts. Whist the beaten economies of Japan and Germany were able to rebuild with our economic assistance and than build much more efficient plants here in the US free of burdensome tax structures and labor contracts. We reaped what we sowed and now we have a fallow harvest.

My idea is to give every American up to 1.5M of them a voucher for $16,667 to buy a new car, use registry databases to find current owners of American big three cars more than seven years old.
11/28/08 @ 8:59 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Instead of worrying about 3 American auto CEO's, congress should focus on homeowners who deserve help. There's a link for homeowners who face foreclosure prevention. Also keep calling your congressmen and tv networks who may be looking for your unique story. Everyone's is varied. They falsely portray all homeowners as addicted casino gamblers. But many put it back into their homes believing they where building equity. Towns, construction, and many benefitted while the homeowner is left in the dust. I would hope going ahead, they regulate and disallow the loansharking industry pretending to be reputable bankers, they are not! And Paulson still wants to bail out the ones who created this mess. Glad he is getting the boot by Obama.http://www.wickedlocal.com/west-roxbury/news/lifestyle/columnists/x541364260/Stemming-the-tide-of-foreclosures
11/28/08 @ 9:36 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Btw, since Chrysler was already bailed out in 1987, didn't they learn of their mistakes during the first round? Don't think the overjoyed first time buyer will ever be duped again. Nor will they fall for all the BS from predatory lenders, brokers, lawyers, realtors, construction company owners, etc....but the CEO's get unlimited assistance. That's fair. Way to go, scumbags!
11/29/08 @ 7:14 am
Buzz [Member] writes:
Forget the CEO's, its the unions that are killing the auto industry, just like they did the steel industry. Can't compete with the imports when you're paying double to the domestic workers.
11/29/08 @ 8:53 am
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,

I agree the unions are part of the problem, just as your own union at cch contributes to their downfall.

But CEO's getting paid too much is just as bad. They need to restructure the auto industry as well as the mortgage industry.

Why is Toyota solvent? Because of good management, moderate salaries, but equally as impt., it's a far better vehicle. How long has the US car dealers and oil industry been ruining this country? Unions where created to protect the employees from abuse by their employers, but they manage to take advantage of a good thing. I personally don't believe in unions, but understand why we have them. I'd rather see people fired for not doing their jobs. Especially for spoiled CEO's who think its okay to waste more money on not fixing the companies and using private jets when they tell us they are BROKE! Maybe they should join the assembly line!
11/29/08 @ 9:06 am
local13516 [Member] writes:
Nancy Pelosi takes a government supplied jet to fly from Washington to California and back once a week. What makes her any better than the executives?
11/29/08 @ 9:30 am
crusader [Member] writes:
Maybe Nancy should fly first class with security. Don't they have private cabins on jets as they do boats? I would imagine a train would be out of the question. The point IS-- CEO's have an obligation to their workers, BOD, consumers, debtors, banks, etc. This crisis we have before us is due to enormous EXCESS in spending of personal income which was from taxpayer dollars they do not deserve. If the company was reinventing a cheaper, safer,energy efficient vehicle as it's overseas competitors, that segment of the work force would be stable. But the internet as good as it is, hurt us with their ability to outsource American jobs. That was blunder #1,which lead us into the rest of the fiscal downfall, why many were forced into bad loans. They picked apart the lower-middle class to the point of their financial ruin. And they ask why no one buys gas or retail. Now let us see what their balance sheets read.
11/29/08 @ 9:41 am
cw rice [Member] writes:
Once CEO's no longer had the same last name as the companies they managed or a familial connection, quality, pride in product and fairness became expendable.

Many of the stock holders who sought higher returns were in fact employees who besides wanting better than average returns on their stock also sought extraordinary compensation through their union agreements talk about burning the candle at both ends they also meted it in the middle.
11/29/08 @ 10:07 am
crusader [Member] writes:
True, cw rice, sounds like ENRON with respect to highly lucrative salaries to top heavy CEO's, while retirement packages implode. They lied about price of stocks to dupe the employee, just as they did the homeowners. It's the same scheme used in different forms of falsified investments. Read discussion forums in CCTimes business. So far what has been predicted has come true. There is talk about nationalizing our 401k's. And having one global currency. Sounds like world domination by corporate elite.

http://forums.capecodonline.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=7&webtag=cc-business&tid=728
11/29/08 @ 10:59 am
crusader [Member] writes:
What people fail to realize, is that we cannot have a strong economy unless we have sustainable jobs. It starts there. They sold out the American worker years ago and made billions. Read, "Richistan", see if it's in the library or read reviews on amazon, don't buy it unless you want to burn it in the fireplace. I read elsewhere, Warren Buffet paid 200 mil. for land in Brazil. Watch where the ultra rich spend their money. There is your forecast for the future. Free market pushes consumers to buy more than they need. It's up to us to resort back to the way our parents lived. But when credit card companies are allowed to mail cards to teenagers and eldery, it is a crime. How many working adults can survive without credit? You can't even rent a car without a credit card. And if you lose your job, or get sick, how easy is it to get sucked in? How much teaching goes into schools about practical spending? These companies thrive on the exploitation of the average consumer. It's up to us to force legislation to protect consumers and if they don't, I say boycott the sob's. The only one that matters is you and your family.
11/29/08 @ 1:28 pm
Buzz [Member] writes:
Cru,

The only significant thing you said here is "It's up to us to resort back to the way our parents lived".

That's called... personal responsibility. It's not a crime to send credit cards to teenagers or the elderly. People who ARE responsible can managed their money and lives with or without credit cards. Stop making excuses for people.
11/29/08 @ 1:41 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,

Okay smarta$$ tell us how you are able to maintain your easier lifestyle than the rest of us: What is your age, where do you work, (off cape?)for how long, 401k pretty healthy, house paid for, parents leave you money, pay for college, wife work, kids grown, don't need your help, no set backs, no divorce, or family illness, loss of job, help from friends, elderly parent dependent financially and domestically? You have zero clue of the obstacles in the way of those who can't just live with what they have, in some cases, it's very little. Your vision is narrow and I'm betting you voted republican. Gone is our democracy, embrace corporate tryranny, because that is what 8 years helped to ensure. Don't get too cocky, you too may have to stand in the bread line one day! Enjoy it while it lasts!
11/29/08 @ 4:35 pm
Buzz [Member] writes:
Silly cru,

I don't have it "easier" than you or anyone else. I just love your "economic" theories and excuses. I paid for my own college and am paying for 2 kids soon to be 3. How? Working long hours and the wife works 2 jobs. If you don't have it... don't spend it. Get rid of cable, internet, designer clothes, cell phones, fancy cars, dinning out etc, etc. You know, like you said "back to the way our parents live".

11/29/08 @ 7:25 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,

As usual, you avoid answering the questions. I only use a debt card, drive a 2000 volvo I paid with cash $2900, one owner, from craigslist, just got luck, lots of scams there too, don't advice it, unless you can get car checked out first, and run VIN #, it's under book value, rmv charged me 5% of $3950 in protest. Always been a step 9, ins is cheap. Use to drive Chevy trucks, never again. My car drives like a caddy. Clothes, designer only from a local shop where owner gets from NY. I buy what she has at 50 % off, off season,$25- 75, wear till they wear out or out of style, then always to goodwill. Shop at Trader Joes for one. Quality of produce, selection and price is perfect. Internet on phone (right now) or at home as a modem $19 monthly. One phone, cell only, $59, 2000 min. No cable. Heavy curtains to keep out drafts. But some of what I asked applies in my circle of life. When too many depend on one provider something eventually falls out of place. If you can't answer my questions, I assume most do apply.
11/29/08 @ 7:35 pm
Buzz [Member] writes:
cru my dear, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the "folks" you were defending. I still stand by your idea.."let's live like our parents", we'd all be better off.
11/29/08 @ 7:52 pm
truthiness [Member] writes:
Buzz [Member] writes:
Cru,

The only significant thing you said here is "It's up to us to resort back to the way our parents lived".

That's called... personal responsibility. It's not a crime to send credit cards to teenagers or the elderly. People who ARE responsible can managed their money and lives with or without credit cards. Stop making excuses for people.
-----------------------------------
You are attacking ,Buzz. Unions need to be reformed, but NAFTA has a lot to do with the current general economic picture. Also, American auto industries have done nothing to improve their engineering or gas mileage. This is all of our own making - fat, complacent Americans.
You shouldn't attack crusader. We all need to clean our own house - America.
11/29/08 @ 8:11 pm
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Funny, I don't see Buzz attacking anyone. If you are referring to Buzz saying 'get rid of cable, internet, bla bla, bla' sounded to me as if he was talking in general, correct me if I'm wrong, please, and not aimed at Cru. I do believe that more people need to take responsibility for their own financial actions, stop overusing credit if you can't pay it back, and if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it right now. Crus, be careful how much info you give out to people, it very well could be the missing link for someone to track you down. Most of us you don't have to worry about but there are unstable and questionable posters everywhere. Just my personal opinion.
Hope you all had a great holiday.
11/29/08 @ 8:14 pm
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
P.S.: Crusader, congrats on giving up on Chevy :-)
11/29/08 @ 10:45 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Somebunny,

Thank you for your concern. It is much appreciated. I know that to many, my identity is out due to all my opinion blogs written and certain nosey busy bodies. While others are relentlessly harrased by clever subversive means, I remain untouched. Maybe it has something to do with my relative the congressman....lol.

Yes, Chevy trucks failures are bad trannys. Great for pulling boat trailers and heavy loads, but gas guzzlers, heavy emissions. Love my volvo. I've had Saabs too. Love the turbo, but they are tempermental. Europeans engineering can't be matched as far as precision and style, built to last.
11/30/08 @ 1:05 am
nonesuch [Member] writes:
Big Three are in a death spiral: Economic contraction, no plan-savings-backup, bloated inventory, raiding of their best and brightest employees by more stable and profitable firms, and no demand for product. Who wants to own a vehicle made by a company which will soon go out of business, bailout or not?

The hammer to the economy is coming. If this isn't the form, something else will be.

Doesn't matter how much or little CEOs get paid: The relatively meager salaries of other workers are so numerous that they control costs.
11/30/08 @ 6:09 am
crusader [Member] writes:
No one is buying cars, when people don't have jobs,& more will lose homes. They just want it all & are to freakin stupid to admit they screwed up, got too greedy with fraudulent loans. Gravy train is over sh!theads, time to go pay your other duped investors, or say bye-bye to your crooked banks. Govt press on to modify loans, lenders rather foreclose, overseas investors are screaming for their promised returns. Go ahead, scream all you want,American people are fighting back by way of non payment as advised in order to get them to collapse. Judges will order immediate mandated modifications, or homes will depreciate, be abandoned, crime will surge. Is that a better alternative? Their criminal enterprise should collapse. No negotiations? Force them to live in shelters. It's a jail cell they should have instead. It's no different from a robber showing up claiming to be a priest, and the neighbor says, "Why did you open the door"? http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/11/30/problem_solver
11/30/08 @ 7:22 am
crusader [Member] writes:
Started this mess was abused "house flipping", by contractors, grossly distorted unrealistic prices. Where are they today? Bankrupt & allowed to start over? Just as the "undeserved", who's sole motivation was. GREED. How many can say if they wanted to buy a home in 05, could have? Did the mortgage co.instruct brokers to lie to homeowners who never took a loan out before? Rates low long enough for people to believe wouldn't change? They were told repeatedly not to worry, just get a fixed rate loan after the rate adjusts higher. "The home has so much equity, any bank will give you a new fixed rate loan". You don't hear the otherside of what went on behind the scenes, because if you did, you would see the criminal lending enterprise for what it truly is- they actually condoned illegal loansharking against the American homeowner. And homeowners shouldn't be pissed off? Better yet, start a civil war against those who got duped & those who believe they are the sole cause of their own home depreciation, that way the adm & investors can dust themselves off to scandal & rob us blind for another day.
11/30/08 @ 7:45 am
bittersweet [Member] writes:
If this was the Mafia (in the old days), they'd have been prosecuted in Federal Court.
But now it seems the Mafia and the govt. are so entertwined that one has become the other!
11/30/08 @ 10:26 am
crusader [Member] writes:
Well, actually bittersweet, think we know the govt is actually worse because they get to commit crimes and have the f'in nerve to call it LEGAL. Why do you think there is such delay in assisting the struggling homeowner? Who have been their biggest campaign contributors? Maybe the are creating another Katrina and expect us all to move to the desert and take up farming. I'd like them to do a survey of where the most foreclosed homes will be. CC has many. There will be your next gentrified region filled with "penny on the dollar" vultures.

Is there a nurse in the house? Off topic, but have to warn those with elderly parents. Nursing home owners and drug companies are the next big fleecing dope dealers. Stay healthy, hope you don't get drugged into hyper zombie land by way of pimping doctors. Been fighting for mom's health for weeks. DPH is to blame, they say. Like to see their bank accts. Calls to DC as well.
11/30/08 @ 1:10 pm
karent2 [Member] writes:
Do you trust anyone ever about anything? First its cops, then courts then builders, doctors, etc. Get some fresh air, go to your own doctor and get some new meds. You're do for a "correction".
11/30/08 @ 1:11 pm
nonesuch [Member] writes:
Sorry folks, you're getting angry over nuthin'. See www dot fooledbyrandomness dot com or www dot rgemonitor dot com. You're too much hooked by MSNBC's Cramer or CNN's Lou Dobb's or CNNMoney or even a lot of what's on Bloomberg's with their axe-grinding, wishful thinking pundits and talking heads.

The Market (meaning in the big sense of it, whether Main or Wall Streets) does what it wants to do. The "after the Close" explanations that chime in every day are nonsense. It's random. That means although Congress and Presidents can influence and pick up the pieces, they don't control. You're all writing like someone can and does.

The Cape market was doomed two years ago. Consequences take time to work out.
11/30/08 @ 1:21 pm
bittersweet [Member] writes:
Well, Presidents and Congress may not influence and control, but someone does.
There is no such thing as random where money is concerned.
It's the G-O-D of the world.
11/30/08 @ 1:28 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Karen,

You must live in the same shallow world as buzz and rest of the blind Americans who don't know what is really going on. I guess those drug reps who were beating down my office door to sell to my boss were all imaginary, too. Do you know how many perks docs get for pushing drugs on people? NH care for private pay is over 6k a month in some places.Sunshine living, cohasset. My brother went through 400k pretty fast, then he got the zombie drugs when money ran out. Some get serious long term side effects from drugs. My mom lived through the horrors of Nazi occupation in N. Italy. Maybe you should take a trip to the middle east, see how you come back. Ask our soldiers. Go take your prozac.and continue to pretend everything is okay. Don't tell me this sh!t is not for real.
11/30/08 @ 3:52 pm
Buzz [Member] writes:
Karen, do you live in a "shallow" world? I sure as hell don't. There's a word for people who have a conspiracy theory for everything..... delusional.
11/30/08 @ 4:05 pm
bittersweet [Member] writes:
There's a word for those who don't see it too....asleep!
The real conspiracy is the conspiracy of silence. Which seeks to obliterate those who question "the way things are".
Truth does not fear investigation, and taking everything at face value is the height of ignorance.(Einstein)
anonymous:
"If we take anything to apply in our lives it's that we should be free-thinking individuals and prepared to think outside of boxes and speak our truths no matter how it might appear to those around us."
Or, "A smile is just a frown turned upside- down."
11/30/08 @ 4:10 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
We'll see who is "delusional", as the fiscal calamity continues. Keep your eyes on the 401k's, cape real estate, and businesses, or you can just continue to do what you usually do, live in never never land with Peter Pan. At least I know my job is secure. Do you work on cape, buzz? Since you admit you travel the nation, I take it the answer is no, but you won't tell the truth, devulge, rather pick me apart and anyone else who dares point to hidden truths. What and who are your vested interests? We know peck, mav and possee don't depend on cape jobs, so there you go. Private business that began years ago claimed their stake. All others must deal with poverty conditions in your closed communities. Let us se how the cape can weather this storm. What goes around.
11/30/08 @ 4:55 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Bittersweet,

Let them live in their small world of denial and self-absorption. They'll find out soon enough. I guess the crooked administration along with corporate criminals had to find a way to pay for this war. Why else are we seeing the lower middle class being swallowed up by this disaster. Thanks for your support, that case revealed much didn't it. I never realized the Cape is the fishbowl of rest of what is profoundly unjust in this country. King George has never been defeated. Colonization by the English, their evil lust for world domination by way of tyranny live on. And their unsuspecting sheep will follow.
11/30/08 @ 6:17 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Bittersweet,

Remembering 911 and why it happened, talk of the presidents club, in secrecy they sold out the American people with all their illegals they lust for profits, nothing more I know you follow romaneagle as I do. Once a skeptic, now a true believer. Consolidation of international banking by way of criminal lenders. The BS about helping homeowners is just lip service so we don't start a revolution. They will continue to pick away slowly, unless something is done to change our planned fate.http://forums.capecodonline.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=cc-business&tid=732
11/30/08 @ 7:31 pm
Buzz [Member] writes:
What can I say bitter? The world is a ghetto.
11/30/08 @ 10:34 pm
crusader [Member] writes:
Check out how much the CEO's walked away with on the mortgage scheme. Is this how China is cashing in what is owed?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11229
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