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Just when is it "cold"?

Below zero isn't what you think it i

thermometer_390We New Englanders are so used to cold weather that many of us have fallen into the trap of not thinking it's "cold" till the temperature is "below zero."  We can thank German physicist Daniel Fahrenheit for that, who proposed his screwy Fahrenheit temperature scale back in 1724.

I call this a "screwy" scale--I won't even get into how he devised it, but if Rube Goldberg delved into chemistry, this was it.  In Fahrenheit's scale, the freezing point of water comes out to 32 degrees Fahrenheit, and the boiling point at 212 degrees, a total of 180 planned degrees between the two.   Therefore, zero degrees Fahrenheit is actually 32 degrees below freezing.  It is actually pretty damn cold at "below zero."

I have nothing against screwy scales as long as they make some kind of sense.  I love the English system of measurement, where we think in terms of inches and feet and yards and miles, while most of the world thinks in terms of the metric system of centimeters and meters and kilometers, etc. 

The metric system is based on actual measurements of the Earth and has a very rational basis.  The English system--well, I loved teaching that in physics class.  Traditionally, the foot was based on the length of the king's foot.  As my physics students used to say, "Of course.  They got it from a ruler."  The inch was purportedly based on the length of the king's thumb from the middle joint to the tip.  And so it went for the rest of English metrics.  For a little bit of fun, I would occasionally have my physics students calculate speed in "furlongs per fortnight."

In the temperature category, Fahrenheit got the jump on things in 1724, and his screwy system was in vogue before Andre Celsius, a Swedish astronomer, came up with the centigrade scale in 1742.  The centigrade scale, as the name implies, divides the temperature range into 100 degrees between the freezing and boiling points of water, zero being the freezing point and 100 being the boiling point, making a very rational temperature scale.  Degrees in this scale are called "degrees centigrade" or "degrees Celsius," in honor of old Andre.

A fact that very few people know (the number now includes you) is that Celsius developed the scale backward, from 100 degrees freezing to 0 degrees boiling.  In 1744, a Swedish botanist, Carolus Linnaeus, said "That's nuts, Andre," and reversed it so that freezing was at zero and boiling was at 100.

In Europe, when the temperature is zero, they know it's cold.  In America, we practically think it's warm at 32, which is the same temperature.

Let's see how the two scales compare:

Degrees F          Degrees C

212                       100              (boiling point of water)

72                         22

40                         4

32                         0                   (freezing point of water)

0                          -18

-10                       -23

I'd just as soon drop Herr Fahrenheit's misleading scale altogether and forever.  When the water turns to ice, I want that to be at zero, not 32.

Now did I mention there are also two more temperature scales, both used in science, the Kelvin and Rankine scales?  Can I expound on those?  Do you have time?  Let's get some coffee...

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01/15/09 @ 12:08 pm
Monponsett [Member] writes:
Just for grins, know that the country that came out of nowhere 230 years ago with their goofy feet/yard/miles system absolutely and totally dominate Science, Engineering, Medicine and whatever else you might name to the extent- and so rapidly- that the Metric people seem to be bringing a knife to a gun fight.
01/15/09 @ 12:51 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
Je comprends, ma cherie. As I said, I love the English system which we colonials have adopted. It is the Fahrenheit scale I don't like. Mais, il est Boche.



01/15/09 @ 2:47 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
Rambling ad hominem rant deleted.

Please take your meds before you attempt to comment and try to stick to subject.
01/15/09 @ 3:01 pm
nonesuch [Member] writes:
Temperature is also both less and more revealing than intuition suggests. For instance, the rate at which heat passes through walls is not simply the difference in temperature between inside and outside, but the magnitude of the thermal gradient. That is, if the wall (assumed uniform material and density) is made twice as thick, the temperature difference is unchanged (in equilibrium) but the rate of loss of heat is half: The temperature change per unit length through the wall is half, so the slope of temperature vs distance is half, so gradient is half. But, insofar as gases go, temperature is king: It is an index of the rate at which molecules wander about. Fluids, too. Some.

Very readable account of some of these basic things in a down-to-earth context: Steven Vogel, COMPARATIVE BIOMECHANICS: LIFE'S PHYSICAL WORLD, 2003, ISBN 0-691-11297-5.
01/15/09 @ 3:03 pm
balognasamich [Member] writes:
Thank you, Solon;
There was no rambling, I'm confused. You take offense? Your skin is too thin.
Can you not address the issue you in fact raised? Do you only want us to bow down before your pontifications?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Rant on, Guru.
01/15/09 @ 3:42 pm
balognasamich [Member] writes:
Let's try again.
You take as a personal statement my comments about Celsius and Fahrenheit which I took time to research and construct and had nothing to do with you. Then you deleted them, like flushing a toilet. Seriously, I wish for you to to answer the questions I raised, before or after 'taking your meds'. And while you're at it, address yourself to the questions I raised, which in fact had nothing to do with you as a person, were not personal, and if fact could have interesting possibilities. In fact the thrust of my arguement was to persuade you into doing just that. Tell me how about, or teach me about measurements. But also listen to me when I say how 'Europeans' react to the 'temperature'. Apparently you missed this, in your conflagration. I meant, nor mean, any personal attack upon you, as a person. It takes me more time than you consider to construct a response to you. For you to dump me, 'ad hominem', is disingenuous at best. I'm sorry you could not actually answer the questions, which are all evident. European concepts of cold and hot and how they relate to us are lost
01/15/09 @ 3:45 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
ekzept,

Temperature sure is king. You noticed I mentioned Kelvin and Rankine scales in passing.

Zero degrees Kelvin (or "zero kelvins," the term used of late) is "absolute zero," the temperature at which all molecular motion theoretically stops. Since it is molecular motion in wires which causes electrical resistance, there should be no electrical resistance at absolute zero, and the electrons in the circuit should just keep traveling round and round and round.

Some years ago material was brought down to near-absolute zero, and they obtained the expected result, which was termed superconductivity.

Thanks for the comment.
01/15/09 @ 4:48 pm
balognasamich [Member] writes:
Solon, I'm still waiting for your explanation and exposition.
Please explain for me how 'Europeans' experience cold as compared to 'Americans'.
How long have you lived under either system?
How do you like your coffee?
01/15/09 @ 4:51 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
balognasimich,

I will try to answer your question.

The Europeans don't react any differently to temperature than we. But since their freezing point is zero degrees (C), they are more aware of their ambient situation than we are. We tend to forget that 32 degrees (F) is freezing and tend not to get excited till we hear "below zero," which is far below freezing.

Zero (C) and 32 (F) is the point at which liquid water turns into solid ice. An awful lot of heat transfer, heat taken out of the water, occurs for that to happen. And a lot of heat transfers from your body, although, as ekzept pointed out, that transfer is dependent on many things, including the barrier (preferably layered clothing).

Fahrenheit based his zero on the fp of a chemical mix, and he wanted 180 degrees between the fp and bp of water, the result being the odd 0-32-212 scale.

Celsius based his on the fp and bp of water, the most common substance on the planet (in its pure form), a more logical choice, and set a neat 100 degrees difference between them.

It's logical and easier to visualize.
01/15/09 @ 5:21 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
b,

I like my coffee black and not scalding hot (about 3 or 4 minutes out of the coffeemaker).

If your coffee is too hot, don't throw an ice cube in to cool it. Wait a couple of minutes. Ice may cool it too quickly.

When you put ice in a drink, it's not the coldness of the ice that cools your drink (that would be pretty negligible), it's the fact that the ice MELTS. The same amount of heat is taken out of your drink to melt the ice that was originally taken out of the water in your freezer to form the ice. That's what makes your drink cold--the melting of the ice.

There's a great thermodynamic balance all around us.

I, too, b, realize that 32 degrees does not shut you down but allows you to do pretty much what you want as long as you're dressed right. I used to love 32 degrees on a sunny day to ice skate. Why? The ice was still frozen, but the sun melted the very top layer, making a very fast surface. I think once I broke the sound barrier!
01/15/09 @ 5:52 pm
nonesuch [Member] writes:
Speaking of units ..., here's a comment from the incredible, wonderful XKCD ...

http://xkcd.com/526/
01/15/09 @ 6:05 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
e, I wonder how many people spent how many hours digging up these facts, such as amount of blood in a fieldmouse (or if they just made them up). Pretty humorous.
01/15/09 @ 6:28 pm
possee [Member] writes:
Cold is cold..period

Be it celsius, farenheit, or God knows what other factoids are revealed..it's friggin cold..
Welcome to New England..

I hear property is cheap in Florida these days..


possee
01/15/09 @ 7:59 pm
Solon [Member] writes:
Just think, possee, it's so cold that without Al Gore and global warming, we'd be extinct!
01/15/09 @ 8:04 pm
possee [Member] writes:
We are extinct.

Just don't know it yet..

The earth's fever has got the chills.

possee
01/15/09 @ 8:08 pm
somebunny [Member] writes:
that's right possee; we are extinct. We are Zombies
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SolonSolon Economou, a frequent Op Ed Page contributor to The Providence Journal and a former Cape Cod Times columnist, is a retired professional engineer and military officer, former physics teacher and training developer. He's been writing professionally for over 20 years. Solon's opinions are strictly my own, so if you don't agree with them, don't blame anybody else.

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