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Cindy Sheehan - A Sarah Palin Of The Left?

                                                     Cindy Sheehan - A Sarah Palin Of The Left?

             I attended a talk by anti-war spokesperson Cindy Sheehan in Falmouth tonight, hoping to hear some common sense and gain  some insight about American politics, but I was disappointed.  I  respect Ms. Sheehan's efforts in the cause of peace, and I empathize with the loss of her son in Iraq, but while she clearly sees many of the problems with American society today, she misses the mark widely in her notion of what needs to be done to set America right after the eight-year Bush administration debacle.

            Ms. Sheehan discussed what she calls "myths" about American society and, for the most part she hit the target.  Yes, we are guilty of what others, including myself, have called American exceptionalism or, as she puts it, believing that America is the "greatest country in the universe."  Yes, we are a class-based society, with a corporate elite that has an overbearing and corrupting influence on the economy, on politics and on the culture itself.  Yes, the mass media has, through lax regulatory policies permitting corporate control of news content, become corrupted.

           But then, after demonizing the Democrats as personified by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Ms. Sheehan suggests that elections don't matter, that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans and that what we need is more third party involvement in the electoral process -the same nihilist crap we get from the right-wing libertarian fools.  Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

          After her presentation the microphone was opened for questions from the audience, so I rose to address those three issues.  After stating my general agreement with her critique of corporate capitalism's corrupting influence on American society, I asked her specifically about the 2000 election, where the corporate sponsored GOP stole the election from Democrat Al Gore with the willing assistance of Ralph Nader's Green Party. 

          I asked Ms. Sheehan whether she really believes that if Gore had been elected instead of Bush, he would have started an oil war in Iraq while pretending to be going after al Qaeda in Afghanistan.  Didn't she think that Gore might have instead spent the trillion or so dollars squandered in Iraq on developing alternative renewable energy technologies to replace fossil fuels?

          I was most disappointed by her disingenuous attempt to deflect these questions by alluding to Gore's personal friendship with Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum instead of giving me a straight up yes or no answer, and if yes explaining why in terms of actual policy positions taken by Gore instead of referring to an irrelevant personal acquaintance with an oil magnate.

           I'm sure, for example, that Gore also has many personal friends in the environmental movement, so why should his acquaintance with Hammer have influenced him to invade Iraq, as opposed to his other friends convincing him to spend the money on developing alternative energy technologies?   Does she really think that petroleum industry money didn't have something to do with rigging the election in Florida, a state governed by a scion of the Bush petroleum fortune?  And does she really think that didn't  have everything to do with Gore's actual position on energy policy?

          On follow up, I asked Ms. Sheehan if she had really listened to Obama's Cairo speech where he not only expressly repudiated the concept of a holy war with Islam, but also repudiated the Bush administration's neoconservative "nation building" policy in Afghanistan.  She again deflected the question by alluding to the fact that Obama didn't say this about Israeli policy, or didn't say that about Iran -the same kind of evasive flak we've come to expect from right-wing blowhards like Limbaugh or Hannity and their wannabes who occasionally respond to my posts on this site.

          I said Obama's only been in office for six months but she seems to think that he can just snap his fingers to undo eight years of Bush administration corruption and bungling, and then I walked out. Incredible!

          By the way, I am one of those people who gets involved politically on the local level with long service on Falmouth's Conservation Commission, Town Meeting, the Planning Board and several other ad hoc committees and environmental groups like Citizens for Protection of Waquoit Bay and the 300 Committee.  I have also been very outspoken in the local and regional media over the years, as well as on this site, on many of the same issues that concern Ms. Sheehan.

         Yes, such local involvement is important as Ms. Sheehan suggests, but to dismiss the necessity of a strong federal government like she does, a central government that takes its responsibility for environmental protection and business regulation seriously, is nonsense.  And that's exactly where elections make a difference, and where the Democratic Party is distinctly different from the GOP,  in addition to protecting our basic liberties instead of corporate profits through the appointment of judges to the federal bench.

          My question about the 2000 election was indeed a difficult one for her claims  that there's no difference between the Dems and the GOP, and that elections don't matter, because although he probably would have authorized a limited mission in Afghanistan to capture bin Laden, Gore certainly would not have started an oil war in Iraq.  If Ms. Sheehan were honest, she would have to admit that fact but, then, the question arises whether her son might still be alive.  It's an unanswerable question because there are so many contingencies in this tenuous hold on life we all share, not just as Americans, but as human beings.  Still, I was disappointed in Ms. Sheehan for evading such a difficult question by deflecting it, just like the right-wing ideologues always do.

         Later, it occurred to me that Ms. Sheehan is in some ways a Sarah Palin of the left.  She is more intelligent and more knowledgable than Palin, and she has a better grasp on the basic problems with American society to be sure, but that's not saying very much is it?  Ms. Sheehan's heart is also in the right place, unlike Palin's, but the analogy is apt in light of her tendency to deflect difficult questions about politics or policy by changing the subject, as Palin did in debates and interviews all through the 2008 presidential campaign.  

 

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06/28/09 @ 9:10 am
justiceforall [Member] writes:
I think we would be better off if Ms Sheehan devoted more of her time to her sex site profile.
06/28/09 @ 1:46 pm
mbrad [Member] writes:
Interesting that you say Sheehan is more intelligent than Palin. How do you assess that, did you give them both an IQ test?
06/28/09 @ 2:01 pm
Ned [Member] writes:
She's an airhead but she's OUR airhead. You gotta hand it to Cindy for setting up Camp Casey just outside Dubya's Crawford """ranch""" a few summers back and ruining his enormous vacation. She and Palin should armwrestle on C-Span sometime.
06/28/09 @ 3:18 pm
gary4205 [Member] writes:
Oh man where do I start with this?

First Cindy Sheehan is a poor misguided woman who was used up by the left wing kooks. People like Pelosi used her up and spit her out. She's right to hate them. But past that, there is no real wisdom in her thoughts. She's just a typical liberal.

What has me going is why you think she could hold a candle to Sarah Palin? Of course, I imagine you stuck Palin's name in there so you could get someone to read this rant!

Sarah Palin is one of the most successful Governors in America. She has in incredible record of accomplishment. Just signed a contract for the largest infrastructure project in history, a $40 billion dollar project that will be financed with private money! The state of Alaska has tried to do this for 30 years. It took her 2!

Her state is well run, and has a balanced budget. One of the very few that can say that.

She is odds on favorite to be the next President.

Palin is currently overseas visiting her National Guard troops in Kosovo and Germany.

www.thespeechatimeforchoosing.blogspot.com



06/28/09 @ 3:23 pm
gary4205 [Member] writes:
Hey Ned, not sure what you know about ranches, but even here in Texas, Prairie Chapel (W's ranch) is nothing to sneeze at. I mean it's kinda small, 1100 acres, but serviceable.

It's also really beautiful. Lots of neat scenery.
06/28/09 @ 3:54 pm
dingbat [Member] writes:
Wow, how to respond to all this? Richard, as you may or may not know, I am an avowed conservative (read:not Republican). I really enjoy reading your blogs because, although I often do not agree with your premise, I find them well thought out, well articulated and worthy of consideration.

Having said that, Cindy Sheehan is a dope, and so is Sarah Palin. If the Repubican party thinks Sarah is the answer to the liberal tidal wave, I would suggest they might be better off with a candidtae like Daffy Duck.

Conservatives need someone like William F. Buckley to carry the message, but he's dead, and I don't see anyone else who could measure up.

Sad time for America: Liberals 1, Conservatives 0.
06/28/09 @ 4:20 pm
balognasamich [Member] writes:
If Sarah is Daffy does that make Cindy Goofy?
The two of them on the same ticket, now that's intriguing.
06/29/09 @ 8:16 am
greenferret [Member] writes:
"I asked her specifically about the 2000 election, where the corporate sponsored GOP stole the election from Democrat Al Gore with the willing assistance of Ralph Nader's Green Party. "

Are you suggesting that Ralph Nader helped Bush and company rig the election? Unlikely. What you probably meant to write was that you think Gore would have gotten more votes if Nader hadn't been in the running. Well, if you and other Democrats believe that, here's the solution: instant runoff voting.

Instant runoff voting allows voters to rank their choices. If no candidate wins a majority in the first round, then the lowest vote-getter is eliminated, and those ballots then go to the voters' second choice, instead of being thrown out. That way, no one can win without a majority (as Bush and Clinton did), and every vote counts. More info at fairvote.org

Since 2000, the Green Party has been working to make instant runoff voting a reality, while the Democrats have been working to throw Green candidates off the ballot. However, I'm still optimistic that the Democrats will someday side with democracy.
06/29/09 @ 10:05 am
Richard [Member] writes:
Hello, mbrad!

I could tell that Ms. Sheehan had a much better grasp on the issues, and was significantly more intelligent than Palin just based on what she said and how she said it, comparing what I've heard from Palin in similar public fora.

If you think someone needs to know relative IQ scores in order to judge the intelligence of others, that only calls your own intelligence into question as well as display an ignorance of the limited validity of IQ testing itself in areas outside of academics.

But I'll give you the benefit of doubt and allow that you're probably a fairly intelligent fellow but, like most defenders of Palin who should know better, you sound like just another dishonest GOP cynic.

06/29/09 @ 10:15 am
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, dingbat

I, too, miss William Buckley as a sane conservative voice. But after Reagan's 2000 "states rights" speech in Philadelphia, Miss., the GOP has gone almost entirely over to the truly wingnut "values" agenda of the religious right. The corporate capitalists put up the money for GOP candidates to pander to the "values" voters in the south and the heartland, expecting to reap the benefits of small government in the form of deregulation and "free market" economics but, as the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for."

Now, with the failure of small government economic deregulation, all of Reagan's "best minds" in industry and Wall Street are going to big government asking for welfare, i.e. "socialism," while the GOP has been taken over by the gun nuts, the school prayer nuts and the sexual puritans.

Even as a Democrat, I've been rooting for Colin Powell in his effort to get the GOP back on track and out of the grasp of nut cases like Cheney, Limbaugh and Palin.
06/29/09 @ 10:26 am
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, Ned

It's like FDR supposedly said about Somoza being our SOB. The difference is, though, that repressive right wing dictators back then could be relied on to oppose the "enemy" dou jour.

My take on Ms. Sheehan's attack on Democrats has quite the opposite effect, inasmuch as it only serves to augment the divisiveness among people who should be voting for Democrats on economic issues, to complement the GOP's effort to create divisiveness based on the so-called "values" issues.

Just look at "gary's" rant about Palin to see what the problem is. He says she's a lock to be next president, and he could be right if the GOP's natural constituency on economic issues remains divided against itself. Think about that a moment, and if you ain't scared, you ain't right.

Now, that the GOP's regulatory incompetence has led to the total collapse of our "free market" economy, is not the time to give them another boost by demonizing the Democrats or pretending they don't offer a real alternative to GOP policies. And that's my point about Ms. Sheehan.
06/29/09 @ 11:44 am
demos [Member] writes:
I agree, Cindy was wrong on two counts: voting does count...and all forms of government are not necessarily bad!
In fact,real democracy- missing in this country & elsewhere- is the best form and depends on participation: Voting is an expression of that!

But Richard, you are wrong on at least two counts as well.Third or alternative parties aren't destructive, they are the necessary voice, again MISSING IN AMERICA, that allows for ideas, visions and values not represented by the two-party monopoly, the duopoly called Democrat and Republican. I'm shocked that your usually strong rational grasp on issues (eg your understanding that Capitalism is a system that is faulty)can't see that it too CONTROLS and basically OWNS the government, our laws, institutions & legal framework, media. Us. AND the two parties!

Cindy may be confused but in the right direction. Next she needs to recognize the best way to build a new society is a unified movement and to create a new party that advocates economic & civic democracy & human well-being. Visit www.PeopleForANewSociety.org
06/29/09 @ 12:46 pm
saltflyfisher [Member] writes:
Cindy is NO Sarah.Sarah Palin will never be the presidential candidate.Ms. Sheehan is a mom who lost her son in a war and nothing more.She is being "used".
06/29/09 @ 5:26 pm
paulrifkin [Member] writes:
Cindy Sheehan is an intelligent and courageous
leader of peace people all over the world. When you left the hall so rudely at Morse Pond School there were many in the audience who were very happy that you left. I was certainly in that group. You have come to other forums that I have produced and you always want to hear yourself above all others. Cindy is out on the street speaking truth to power. She puts her life on the line for the cause of peace. You write letters to the editor and blog. Think about it.
06/29/09 @ 5:49 pm
bartenderfromhell [Member] writes:
Cindy is a sad psychopath who's been driven to the edge by the leftist moveon crowd.
06/29/09 @ 9:13 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, paul

As you can see from the responses to this post, not everyone agrees with your take on Ms. Sheehan, nor mine for that matter. And while many at Morse Pond may have been happy when I left last Saturday, I got several smiles and thumbs up on my way out.

I don't doubt Ms. Sheehan's courage, or her basic intelligence which I have in fact defended against some negative comment here. But that doesn't mean I have to close my mind to her flaws as well as some at the Morse Pond meeting apparently do.

As for wanting to hear oneself above all others, look around paul, and really think about the way Ms. Sheehan responded to my simple question about what Gore's policy would have been. Instead of actually focusing on my difficult question and giving an honest answer, she deflected the question with an irrelevant reference to Armand Hammer, in order to maintain her own
voice "above all others" about how "elections don't matter."

That's hardly speaking "truth to power," is it?
06/29/09 @ 9:27 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, greenferret

The idea of a runoff is interesting, but in the end it would be both needlessly costly and unworkable given our constitutional system of separation of powers. Third parties work very well under a parliamentary system where the chief executive is a prime minister and his election depends on a parliamentary majority.

But that's not our constitutional model. So, instead, what happens is that a third party simply serves to divide the electorate which might not be bad except for the fact that the GOP corporatists have been more skilfull at doing that with their phony "values" agenda ever since Reagan won in 1980.

In this context, third party demonization of Democrats from the left only serves to empower the GOP by adding to the crippling divisiveness among those who are, or should be voting against the corporate elite based on their common economic interests.

Read Thomas Frank's "What's The Matter With Kansas," for example, or Kevin Phillips "American Theocracy" to see how well this has actually worked to empower the GOP over the past 30 years.
06/29/09 @ 9:35 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, demos

I agree, but the way to build that unified party is not to demonize those successful politicians who you would need in order to become a unified majority on the issues that matter. Rather than build a "new party" from scratch, people like Ms. Sheehan should be trying to rebuild the Democratic Party from within, as Colin Powell is trying to do with the GOP.

Nor, as we agree, is it helpful to preach that "elections don't matter," simply because the differences between the major parties are not as great as some of us might like to see. If we are ever to have a unified majority on the issues that matter, peace, prosperity for all, equality, liberty, the way the GOP has managed to gain majorities on divisive "values" issues, then elections certainly do matter.
06/30/09 @ 8:46 pm
capewatchdog [Member] writes:
Richard,

I use to enjoy reading your blog, this was a little much. Nothing more need be said other than perhaps asking a question. How many of her myths did you agree with?
06/30/09 @ 11:30 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi capewatch

As I stated in the post, I fully agree with Ms. Sheehan's claim that the American corporte elite, through its GOP political wing, has been successful in perpetrating several myths on the American people, including:

The myth that America itself,is somehow special as a nation and different from the rest of the world. It is a sense of entitlement and exceptionalism as a people, while what has has always made us different from other nations is our secular constitution which is indeed special when it is not corrupted by political ideologies from the right or the left.

Another myth is that America is a classless society, when the reality is that we have a very real class system based solely on wealth.

And another myth in today's climate of mass media being monopolized by corporate interests is that we still have a free press.

Those are all points on which I fully agree with Ms. Sheehan as being major problems in America today.

However, her belief that there's no difference between the GOP and the Dems so elections don't matter is itself a myth.
06/30/09 @ 11:35 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
capewatch.

BTW, do you think my question about wehther President Gore would have started an oil war in Iraq as Bush did was somehow unfair in light of Ms. Sheehan's claims that elections don't matter and there's no difference between the Dems and the GOP?

If so, please give me the explanation that Ms. Sheehan did not give me as to why that might be so.

If you think it was a fair question, as I do, then please explain how her deflection of the question about Gore by referring to an irrelevant association with Armand Hammer, was anything other than an attempt to evade the question.
07/01/09 @ 9:48 am
capewatchdog [Member] writes:
Richard
All questions that are of concern or interest are fair not only in politics but to people that choose a public forum to voice and spread their views and opinions as well. (Even when some of those issues are off the wall) Evasive answers are SOP for politicians as well as people that want t be heard but really do not know what they are talking about. They may not be trying to evade the question, they simply don't have the intelligence or knowledge to answer it, which was probably the case. Additionally, I do not agree with your Palin analogy, but like others, just my opinion. I'll keep reading, at least the exchange with you is stimulating.
07/02/09 @ 10:46 pm
dkfalmouth [Member] writes:
I guess I'm a bit surprised that Mr. Latimer was disappointed in Sheehan. I mean, what credentials does she have to be commenting on public affairs? Her son died and she protested outside of Crawford. I think that's about it.

So now Ms. Sheehan is trying to be a commentator on political affairs, huh? Why should we expect her to any good at that? I'd be surprised if Mr. Latimer wasn't disappointed in her.
07/03/09 @ 10:55 am
j. madden [Member] writes:
Hi Richard. There is a long list of people, from all walks of life, who stood against President Bush in the face of nearly unbearable opposition. If one is of the opinion that the Bush presidency was bad for our democratic institutions and represented dangerous and incompetent leadership, those that stood all deserve our respect for having the courage and determination to speak out. A few are: General Eric Shinseki, Admiral William Fallon, a large group of Air Force officers too many to mention by name, The Dixie Chicks, Joseph Wilson & Valarie Plame, Seymour Hersh, Keith Olbermann, Ehren Watada, John Murtha, Richard Clark, Rocky Anderson, Scott Ritter, and yes, Cindy Sheehan. Although, I understand your frustration with the answer you received to your question, I do not understand your desire to turn your back and walk out. In these sort of forums, Q&A's are usually frustrating.
07/05/09 @ 7:19 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi,dk

I went to the meeting, not knowing very much about Ms. Sheehan's position on larger issues than the war in Iraq and with a completely open mind.

I think anyone who has fought in a war or who has lost a loved one in a war, has sufficient "credentials" to speak about war in general. I think the rest of us who, as taxpayers, are paying for costly overseas wars also have sufficient credentials to speak out.

As for larger political issues, we are all equal under the First Amendment, but clearly we are not equal in terms of our ability to think clearly when we speak -and that's what I was trying to get Ms. Sheehan to do when I asked the question about whether Gore would have made a difference in 2000. I was disappointed that she could not -or would not do so.
07/05/09 @ 7:26 pm
Richard [Member] writes:
Hi, jm

I fully agree with you, which is why I began this post by saying that I respect both Ms. Sheehan's efforts in the cause of peace and the fact that she lost a son in Iraq. My disappointment was solely based on her inability and refusal to answer a simple question about whether Gore would have made a difference in the 2000 election. I think he would have made a big difference, and I was disappointed that she did not address the question but tried to deflect it instead.

As for walking out, I was the the last or next to last person allowed to ask a question, and I had to be really insistent to get the question out because she immediately began to talk over me when she got the drift of where I was going. That's just demagoguery, not reasoned dialogue, and I just didn't want to hear any more of it that night.
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