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Where is Barbara Tuchman when we need her?

The Decline and Fall of the United States of America Empire
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."
- George Santayana

By Walter Brooks

A generation ago, Barbara Tuchman, one of the great historians, wrote her seminal work, "A March of Folly", which gave four frightening examples of  nations following failed and clearly self-destructive policies through successive governments, right, left or center.

As President Barack Obama considers increasing the troop levels in our war in Afghanistan, there is no better use of his time as he enplanes for meetings in Asia than this book published 24 years ago.

Can we succeed where Genghis Khan, the British Empire and the Soviet Union failed?

MS Tuchman demonstrates that what happens among national policymakers from the Trojan War through our Vietnam debacle is a "process of self-hypnosis." She recounts examples of tactics the British used against rebellious American colonists, including the heinous use of "mercenary" troops, then called Hessian, whom King George killed in what is today's Germany.

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The parallels with the current escalation of the war in Afghanistan are more than uncanny. They show deeply rooted patterns right down to a New York Times story yesterday about the $1 million bribe paid by America's own Blackwater "mercenaries" to Iraqi government officials to make them overlook the 17 innocent civilians whom Blackwater's troops-for-hire murdered in 2007. Have we stooped so low as to learn how to wage war from King George?

The United States is not the first nation to fail in Afghanistan. Many preceded us into what historians call "the graveyard of empires." Almost a thousand years ago the hordes led by Genghis Khan could not hold this savage place, and the British Empire was defeated in their attempts a century ago when it was at the height of its power.

Can America match the Soviet Union's 14,453 war dead in Afghanistan?

Many present day historians credit Afghan for the defeat of the Soviet Union, not America's might. Between December 25, 1979 and February 15, 1989, a total of 620,000 Russian soldiers fought in Afghanistan (104,000 at one time), and the USSR's total dead from their failed decade came to 14,453.

The Soviet's equipment losses included 451 aircraft, 147 tanks, 1,314 armored personnel carriers, 433 artillery guns and mortars, 1,138 command vehicles, 510 engineering vehicles and 11,369 trucks and petrol tankers.

The decline and fall of the American empire

Only the victors get to write the history books, consider our own Native Americans. In another century historians will be able to look back at the American Empire with a degree of certainty.

I believe the history written then will declare that our empire, which began with our invasion of Cuba and the Philippines during the Spanish-American War in 1898, ended with our being defeated by the Vietcong on April 30, 1974.

Since that day America has not won a war except for our tin-horn invasions of tiny Granada and Panama.

Why our President doesn't see the grim and bloody handwriting of past Afghan invaders on the White House wall is beyond my understanding unless power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

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11/12/09 @ 11:39 am
Chuck [Member] writes:
Boy, are you it for it now.
Don't you know all the right-wing readers will call you unpatriotic for suggesting such a rational view?
11/12/09 @ 11:41 am
News-Hen [Member] writes:
Of course your critics won't bother to read Tuchman's book before jumping all over anyone who thinks America isn't always right, facts or no facts.
11/12/09 @ 12:09 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
WB...I agree with your thoughts and hope Obama has the courage to not send more troops and to withdraw the balance.

Our troops are fighting to keep a corrupt government in power.
11/12/09 @ 12:29 pm
oh the huge manatee! [Member] writes:
I generally agree that we shouldn't stay there or increase our troop levels. This is not a "war" by many measures of the word. It is a police action and a nation building effort, which are both doomed to failure. We have strayed WAY off our original stated mission of merely stopping al Queada (sp?). Now the mission is to fight the taliban, in what is essentially a civil war scenario. We need to get out, and just use force when/where necessary to hinder Al Quaeada.

BTW, I feel we did win wars since Vietnam. We basically won the Kosovo war purely with air power, an historic first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Bombardment_in_the_Kosovo_War
Also, we invaded and took over Iraq in 21 days in 2003. That could be considered "winning" a war in the traditional sense. The problem was, we had no plan for the post invasion, and we almost lost the nation building part. As it turns out, we won in Iraq by any definition, as the nation building seems to have worked. Afghanistan is different though, it is hopeless there.
11/12/09 @ 12:57 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
"The US ambassador in Kabul has written to the White House to oppose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan."

When the top Afghan military guy, now US ambassador, says NO I listen. And agree with WB that it is another Vietnam in the making if it isn't already.

How Bush and company brought Karzai back in is beyond me.
11/12/09 @ 1:00 pm
Mary [Member] writes:
oh the huge manatee: The US interests that connect Iraq and Afghanistan is control of oil. Yugoslavia is a bit murky but I would not be surprised to discover that that drove our involvement there, too. Forget this nonsense about nation-building. We are only interested in putting in place a government that can oppress the people enough so that we can use their country for our own purposes. RE Al Quaeda: we don’t even know if they pulled off 9/11. Wasn’t bin Laden an ally of ours and certainly the Saudis have been. And almost all the hi-jackers came from that country.
11/12/09 @ 1:24 pm
Walter Brooks [Member] writes:
I don't believe you win any war in the "first 21 day" as the start of Iraq War #2.
It's now seven years and counting and we're still there, hardly a win when the whole thing will collapse the minute our troops leave. wb
11/12/09 @ 1:26 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
Speaking of Karzai..."In 2004 he rejected a US proposal to end poppy production in Afghanistan through aerial spraying of chemical herbicides, fearing that it would harm the economic situation of his countrymen. Moreover, Karzai's younger brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai – who partially helped finance Karzai's presidential campaign – was rumored to be involved in narcotic deals."
11/12/09 @ 6:57 pm
Ned [Member] writes:
We won the Mexican War, not honorably, and got California New Mexico and Goddess help us, Florida... that should've told us something. At least we paid the French for Louisiana and Missouri. The Empire started with Jefferson's deal with Napoleon... it ends sometime before hmmm... the Mayan Calendar runs out right before we could inaugurate a new Prez. Nostradamus says Ratzinger is the Last Pope, too... we're toast~ with a schmear of Imperial Margarine.
11/12/09 @ 7:23 pm
dkfalmouth [Member] writes:
I can't think of a reason to stay in Afghanistan. There should be a cheaper way to keep a lid on al Qaeda than stationing 100,000 troops. Even if we smash al Qaeda, they'll just go somewhere else.

Finally, America can't win these low level police-action wars: We lose patience and it's impossible to win a war without public support.
11/12/09 @ 7:59 pm
Ned [Member] writes:
We're in Afghanistan to distract the Silk Route Muslims on China's western border... that's why they've kept lending us money.
11/12/09 @ 8:12 pm
possee [Member] writes:
Vietnam was a cover war(for the golden triangle) that went out of control.
Iraq was a preplanned war for a stabilized foothold in mideast oil, even though we receive nothing in oil for our sacrifice of soldiers and money.
Afghanistan is a strategic foothold for oil pipelines as well as the lucrative opium trade.
Given the losses by Russsia,a totally corrupt political system, and the amount of troops necessary to maybe win, for what?, I too must conclude to withdraw and save any more carnage.

Let the oil magnates and drug dealers fight it out and hire mercenaries.

possee
11/12/09 @ 8:18 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
dk...at last we agree.
11/12/09 @ 9:32 pm
Walker [Member] writes:
"...Goddess help us, Florida... that should've told us something."

Actually I believe we traded Florida for Texas with Spain then we beat Mexico out of it a few years later.

If it makes you fell any better Ned it's feel like 63', a little chilly with the wind but back to 77' tomorrow.

Oh, I'm sorry Neddy, that would be warmer than your high this week, Florida sucks alright.

Back to you.
11/12/09 @ 11:26 pm
estherandson [Member] writes:
We have fought wars with countries,like the people of Afghanistan, who have nothing !!! They will never put down their weapons. They live to fight and die, if they must. While we fight to defend and secure our country,and live. There Ideology in Afghanistan has more meaning to the people. Lives are expendable.
Japan would never have surrendered in
WWII, had we not used the bomb.
As of now Pakistan is feeling the loss and heat from suicide bombers. WE are in the middle.Some want us to stay. Many want us to leave.The Middle Eastern countries should be pressured to deal with their neighbors. The war should shift responsibility to them. We can't stand to be involved in a hundred years war.
One opinion today was that Our
President will look weak if he does not decide soon to send more troops.That is just an opinion! Wanting us to be more involved in this war that has no end.
The people of Afghanistan have too many religious beliefs,terrorists, tribal warlords,poor leadership to see peace come, with more fighting from this war.
11/13/09 @ 7:22 am
Walker [Member] writes:
Walter,
I may be mistaken but I believe the US hasn’t declared “war” since December 1941 and manatee is correct in his definitions.

As far as empire building, that was pretty much quelled after the Atlantic Charter was signed or not, whichever may be the actual case.

If what you are referring to, as far as obtaining the objective of a military action when you say “war”, I would have to say the liberation of Kuwait, as one example was mildly successful, as were countless other involvements where the US stepped up to the plate for with no personal gain in sight.

My apologies to possee, as I know how facts are a bit of a buzzkill around here but I’m a huge fan of Edwin Newman and I am compelled to answer yes to his question, will America be the death of the English language? That and a pesky little thing called journalistic credibility.

As far as Afghanistan, either do it or get the troops out!

What we need is a Commander in Chief who doesn’t sit down to pee.
11/13/09 @ 7:32 am
possee [Member] writes:
Peter

Does that equate with "s*^t or get off the pot"?

and your last sentence..

This might be inferred as a hate speech.

possee
11/13/09 @ 7:32 am
r-five [Member] writes:
Afghanistan is not worth the blood and treasure it will cost.

We need to husband our military and economic resources for problems on other fronts.

R5
11/13/09 @ 7:42 am
possee [Member] writes:
r-five [Member] writes:

We need to husband our military and economic resources for problems on other fronts.


Exactly, as a new stimulus 2 is being readied to create more sustainable jobs as reported by that right wing/GOP rag Boston Globe.

Qusetion is, where's the outrage for all the pollution caused by printing useless money?



possee
11/13/09 @ 8:54 am
r-five [Member] writes:
In the meantime, the State has vacated any legitimate authority it may have had by this insult to the People

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_guantanamo_us_trial

These individuals are not entitled to the rights and protections of our Constitution and to accord them such constitutes giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

R5
11/13/09 @ 9:01 am
snowleopard#7 [Member] writes:
Peter: sometimes people sit down to pee because they don't have a penis; do you think a penis is a prerequisite for being a decisive leader?

And sometimes people who have the option to stand whilst peeing sit down, because it's the most prudent thing, and they want to get it right (i.e. middle of the night, don't want to turn on the light.)

I'm happy to have a leader who's careful not to spray it all over the floor.
11/13/09 @ 9:04 am
possee [Member] writes:
r-5

The state has vacated all constitutional rights to the citizens, and afforded those rights to all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Especially in Capitol Hill.

possee
11/13/09 @ 9:06 am
possee [Member] writes:
snowleopard#7 [Member] writes:

I'm happy to have a leader who's careful not to spray it all over the floor.

Correct, instead he's spraying all over the constitution.

possee
11/13/09 @ 9:22 am
crusader [Member] writes:
dk,

Here's some comedy relief from a guy who is incredibly funny and so right! I met him last night with a group of friends at a local fundraiser. He's well known in the area. If you get a chance to see him in person, I highly encourage it. I'm busy assisting with a campaign and just wanted to drop in to say--Keep up the fight! I've got no time for nasty trolls. Life is waiting! Hang in there Neddy and bitter! Hugs to you both, all my good friends.

http://www.jimmytingle.com/index.php?page=video&family=video&category=01--Promotional_Video&display=33
11/13/09 @ 10:17 am
Ned [Member] writes:
I don't think Dubya even sat down to poop. He just put on some Gene Autry and did the Plutocrat Plop.
11/13/09 @ 10:53 am
bittersweet [Member] writes:
That's funny Ned!
Like the Totalitarian Tiptoe.

When President Obama was elected, he said "I can't do this by myself. I'm going to need your help."...
Well, who do you thin k he's waiting for to make his decision on this so-called war? US! The damn American People! --Who can get so riled up to rally about healthcare, but not the lives of our troops and other human beings?

What do you think?....He's waiting for you.if you can't see that, your blind to his magic. It's an invitation people-to determine your future.
Just do it! I just did...e-mail the White House and tell him you want out of this war!!

And while you're at it, e-mail Jim Webb, and tell him you support the changes he wants to make to the inJustice System, and do the same to AG Holder.This is a Golden Moment....they are waiting for you to tell them what to do.....

And if you fail to step up to the plate, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Obama is an open book. Let's write the history WE want!
11/13/09 @ 1:03 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
"snowleopard#7 [Member] writes:
Peter: sometimes people sit down to pee because they don't have a penis; do you think a penis is a prerequisite for being a decisive leader?"

Not at all in my book. Love Palin and still feel she got set up to fail by the GOP. And she can stand on her own...

http://themerchantmaven.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/sarah_palin_5.jpg
11/13/09 @ 4:46 pm
maverick [Member] writes:
This report is sickening:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33908828/ns/us_news-military

I agree with Walker. Either do it right or get the hell out. The world needs a quick, precise answer from Obama. If he waffles and holds the wet finger in the air our troops are toast.
11/13/09 @ 10:26 pm
Walker [Member] writes:
snowleopard#7 asks: "...do you think a penis is a prerequisite for being a decisive leader?..."

No, Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir and Indira Gandhi all had bigger balls than Obama and Queen Noor is a babe. Personally I find it embarrassing to admit that he is our duly elected leader and view it as a sad commentary on how easily America can be duped. As far as the spraying thing goes, good luck with that.

possee, let them infer what they want, I couldn't care less. Am I politically correct?
As Lou Reed said “Give me an issue, I’ll give you a tissue and you can wipe my ass with it.”

Jack, if you have to explain it, (again and again and again), they’ll still never get it.

Just for the record, now that the initial shell shock of doom and gloom taking office is over, the recession is receding in Florida with ABSOLUTELY no stimulus help. My apologies to our grandchildren.

Those that can, do, those that can't, wait for socialism to take them by the hand.
11/14/09 @ 7:42 am
bittersweet [Member] writes:
"If he waffles and holds the wet finger in the air our troops are toast."

Our troops are already toast...have been since "you go to war with the military you have".
Little late to be concerned with troops over power-grabbing objectives,IMO.


There is something else going on here...I don't know what, but i will bet something is going to be decided at this Asian summit, and then Obama will proceed with this "war" according to what they have agreed to there.
Because although people ridicule Fulford, he has said that Japan will not tolerate more war and destruction, but want to work towards building a better world. And you see, they agreed to give money for the reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan, but not for military purposes.
He also said that Bush jr. had been to Japan last week begging for money,(since his father and Bill Clinton have stolen it all,lol), and apparently they told him if Obama apologizes for Nagasaki and Heroshima, he will get some money...maybe that's why he has been acknowledging our wrong-doings around the world--it's a pay-off!
anyway, just food for thought...
11/14/09 @ 7:44 am
bittersweet [Member] writes:
PS: I can't WAIT to hear Atta explain how they got NORAD to stand down that morning.Quite some feat, if you ask me.
And also I will be anxious to hear where they got the thermite that was found in the dust at Ground Zero.
11/14/09 @ 8:09 am
Buzz [Member] writes:
bitter... "NORAD" to stand down? It wasn't the planes that took down those buildings... don't you remember Rosie O'Donnell and all the rest of your conspiracy theorist friends telling us that fire can't melt steel?

Now, unless you have information that "Atta" is still alive somewhere.... and I know some conspirators do... I don't think he'll be showing up at the trial... Cheney took care of that.

What will be interesting at the trial is the "surveillance video" of the buildings showing Bush and company running from the towers right before the explosions.
11/14/09 @ 8:16 am
possee [Member] writes:
Facts are stupid things.

1.850 Million ,of 1 billion, in clean energy stimulus funds has gone to foreign countries for wind turbines.

2.4,500 overseas jobs were created.

3.On Oct. 29, a joint venture of American and Chinese companies unveiled plans for a new $1.5 billion wind farm in West Texas consisting of 240 Chinese-made turbines.

4.Obama welcomed to China this week.
Declaring himself “America’s first Pacific president” .

Perhaps "China's first American President" would be more fitting.

"Oba- Mao" indeed.

Anita Dunn would be proud.

possee
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