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MMS's "Rushed" Study
The most carefully reviewed project in the history of the United States
The Cape Cod Times has reported that the U.S. Interior Department's inspector general has issued a report saying that several federal agencies that reviewed the proposed Nantucket Sound wind farm felt they were "unnecessarily rushed". This is a negative for Cape Wind: Who would want the agencies to be rushed?
But let’s step back and look at the big picture for a moment. Cape Wind is the most carefully reviewed project in the history of the United States. We’re approaching nine years of detailed review! If we, as a country, have gotten to the point where such a review can be called “rushed” then we have arrived at the point where NIMBYism has won. That is, to the point where we can no longer do big things because we can’t overcome the implacable opposition of local interests.
In describing the IG’s report, the Times says: “But officials at the agencies said they did not believe that ‘the expedited timeline affected their overall conclusions,’ according to the report”.
This means that we must try to do something that we almost never do in the Cape Wind Debate: Consider matter of degree. As I said above, it’s not a good thing that agencies felt rushed. But what was the effect of this rush? Apparently it was minor as the conclusions were not affected. So, we will need to discount much of the aggressive language that we’ll hear from the Alliance. It’s their job to exaggerate this report but it’s our job to take their position with a serious grain of salt.
An example of the Alliance propaganda that this study will illicit is the following quote from the Alliance’s president Audra Parker in response to the IG’s report:
"We should now take the time to conduct an honest and thorough review of this project that seeks to address unresolved issues, including those raised by Native American tribal leaders, rather than sweep them under the rug,".
This makes it sound like the Interior Department is not thoroughly reviewing Wompanoag concerns. Of course, this is absolutely false. While the status of Nantucket Sound should have been reviewed years ago, it is getting the full and fair hearing mandated by law today. The Alliance is very sneaky at twisting the truth, and this is an example. Nantucket Sound is receiving proper consideration.
Next we’ll hear that aviation safety is not being investigated. Well, the FAA is in the middle of its second lengthy study as we speak. Of course, the Alliance won’t tell you this. Don’t believe their propaganda here either: The FAA result is expected this Spring.
Finally, the Alliance will take this opportunity to tarnish virtually every major finding of five years of government environmental study. We’ll hear that fishing will be ruined, navigation will be unsafe, and on and on and on. This must be true because the EIS was rushed!!
All of this will be wildly exaggerated. While this report is not a good thing for Cape Wind, it’s hardly the scarlet letter that the Alliance will describe it as.
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I don't think this report makes this a really dark day for the wind farm.
I'm sure that many things were rushed at the end of Bush's term. The agencies themselves have said that their conclusions weren't affected. Salazar is an experienced guy: He knows that this stuff happens & can weigh it properly.
I've read that, in response to the IG's report, Salazar has requested an overall review of the EIS for his use in making his final decision in April. This is good as it will add weight to his April decision.
An informed source told me this week that the FAA decision may come down even before the Nantucket Sound decision. If that happens, Salazar's announcement in April could be the final coup de grace, that is, it could include final approval of the whole EIS. That same source told me that PPA negotiations with National Grid have now started and they may take about 60 days. That timing could mesh with Salazar to make April a banner month for Cape Wind.
That sounds good on paper doesn’t it? Of course, things have looked that way in the past and then gone sour.
You mention "war of attrition" and betting odds but you left out something important: What is right.
I know you're being tongue in cheek. But is it right for the Alliance to continue opposition, using whatever is the most convenient tactic, so long as they can afford it? So long as as Koch and company keep writing checks?
The Alliance hasn't won a single court battle or obtained a single agency opinion to support their side in this whole long saga. Army Corps, MMS, CCC overturned, EFSB, SJC, etc., etc., etc.
Doesn't that say something? Aren't they just plain wrong?
You really shouldn't need a sportswriter to tell you that what is right doesn't always = how things work out.
I like the concept of wind power. I don't like the concept of being guinea pigs for a Manhattan-sized experiment. I couldn't care less about the view from the Compound. I could care less about Indians watching the sunrise, but not much less. I like the concept of the turbine as a big middle finger aimed at Saudi Arabia. I don't like the concept of the turbine as a slalom gate for poor old Maverick to have to steer his boat around. I like less pollution, even if it's a little bit. I hate birds being killed.
I can see a turbine from my cottage, and it doesn't bother me a bit. I also would think twice about sending my kids to a school with a turbine nearby, as they can explode and send giant shards of metal flying for hundreds of yards. I hate the idea of a power plant spewing pollution about as much as I hate the idea of a hurricane spilling oil and washing shards of metal everywhere, waiting to sink ships.
I ask a lot of questions, comment when I feel like it, and goof on the paid shills both sides seem to send here. I'm cutting you some slack right now because you're new and I'm trying to be nicer in my old age, but I'll probably tire of you like I did with Coleman.
It's a lot of fun to watch the debate, though...especially with my lack of attachment to either side. I'm genuinely interested to see who wins, and why, and how.
The Kennedy compound maybe?
Then I will multiply that by 100 (as in 100 wind factories) and you will see the folly of the "subsidy scam".
PS...if you don't know the % please call DK. And if Dave doesn't know I would suggest you both stop the propaganda on this site.
Hopefully Baxters and the Beachcomber.
I hear you on retaining a sense of humor on this thing. That's not been my strong suit. And I definitely hear you on seeing points on both sides of the issue. And that's where you're better than the vast majority of people in this debate who have picked sides and who fight to the death for their side.
Me included.
Thanks,
Jack
I've got a school project for you: Why don't YOU calculate the "% of our dependence on foreign oil will be reduced with the construction of the Cape wind factory"?
Wouldn't that be a novel idea: Dolphin doing some leg work or beginning to understand something.
It would probably take about 5 minutes. Less if you're a decent web searcher.
That could be a big step for you Dolphin: Your very first substantive contribution to this debate.
As always, I'm pulling for you.
Others like yourself have used it as an argument for the factory. As such it is in your corner to tell us how much. And I am willing to multiply that % times 100 to show the insignificance vs the destruction of Nantucket Sound.
It is not my responsibility to back up your claims.
You'll have to look long and hard for an argument from me that CW or Wind in general will reduce dependence upon foreign oil. I don't really hang my hat on that one.
But come on, you’ve gotta realize how ridiculous it is to ask how much a single power plant in a country of thousands of plants will reduce the use of foreign oil.
Tell me you realize that
Maybe they are doing more than exaggerating?
What have I said that would lead you to ask that question?
All I've said here is that one power plant by itself can't make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil. Certainly, Cape Wind has never said that it would do that.
I think that Cape Wind's main claims are supportable: It'll provide around 75% of the Cape's power, it'll reduce CO2 production, etc. I read on the CW website recently that it will reduce electricity rates. I don't think I buy that one.
Perhaps I'm missing your point.
"But I can't help it: I detest lying and distorting and I am very prone to get on my high horse and attack it when I see it. It's just me."
What are your thoughts re the argument by Cape Wind and Carl Freeman that the factory will reduce our dependence on foreign imports from the Middle East and eliminate war for oil?
PS...the amount of Middle East imported oil used for electric generation is less than 1% of all imported oil.
This is direct from Cape Wind's home-page;
"...reducing our dependence on foreign energy."
So what you think? Does this seem like a clear case of deceptive advertising to you?
It does to me, especially since I agree with you when you say above- "...one power plant by itself can't make a dent in our dependence on foreign oil."
Now, aren't you mistaken when you say, "Certainly, Cape Wind has never said that it would do that"?
What a bunch of frauds. Where will they hide when their electric rates go through the roof. The screaming will silence the turbine blades.
And it will be our fault for not warning them. That after 10 years of debate.
Of course it will.
Anything that gets us off oil will. DUH!
Say, how many soldiers do have to die for you to drive that Hummer?
How much cow-towing and high prices for polluting dirty filth and Wahabi religion?
I'll GLADLY pay more for wind, sun, wave, hydro...whatever besides oil gas coal and nuclear. And I'm not alone.
Meanwhile--I don't seee the price of elecrticity going down now...when there is a surplus! Do you? Can you tell me why?
You people are the frauds.
Pretending to care abou the environment. HA! Look around you someday! Drive through Fall River why don't you. REAL nice, huh? And REAL cheap too, huh?
You just want your "pristine" Sound, and your big toys while poor people in cities pay for it with their health.
Did you hear Sweden is suing Russia for dumping toxic sludge in the Black? Baltic? Sea? Most polluted on earth....and it's not due to wind farms.
So how can you say you care about the environment? Only yours. As Bush used to say- It's fuzzy math!
I think studies, polls, etc. show you'd be in a small group. Most people are NOT willing to pay more.
Using your logic (when Bush/Cheney were in charge) its to help Obama's friends in the oil industry.
I hear the Prius is doing just fine..oops.
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Yeah, when CW says this: "...reducing our dependence on foreign energy." they're on thin ice. Very little oil is used for power in New England and most of our Natural Gas and all of our Coal comes from domestic sources. So, this is a misleading statement from CW.
I seldom if ever mention foreign energy in this debate because very little oil is used for power generation. Now, Dolphin will never believe that. But you know me so I hope you do.
You can't pretend the Bushco administration wasn't ALL about big oil--it was.
And btw, I could use your logic and say. "If Obama has friends in the oil industry, and they run things in our gvt......so what?"
Just like I am always asking--where is the chest thumping and flag waving for Obama and Afghanistan?
You people make no sense.
"Most people are NOT willing to pay more."--
I'll bet if you asked people who live next to a dirty energy plant, they would yell "hallelluya" for anything besides the filth they must endure!...but not you of course. Oh no...not you.
And anyway--we pay more to live on the Cape than plenty of other places. Hawaii costs more. People WILL pay more when it's something they care about.
And who wants to keep supporting OPEC and those creepy gd sheiks and royalty?
I don't. I am going to find this article and video for you. It shows a wealthy Arab Emerit prince torturing a merchant...it's really disgusting. Abu Gharib type disgusting.
And besides....nobody asked ME what I prefer!
Where's the free-market choices
You did not pay attention to WHO is buying the opposition to alternative energy...they have endless resources and deep deep pockets.
This has NOTHING to do with public benefit whatsoever.
The key words in the Barnstable Patriot editorial are "demonstration project”.
I researched deep water wind technology this fall & couldn’t find a single technology beyond R&D phase.
Here are a couple of web references to the FLOW project referenced by the Patriot:
http://social.windenergyupdate.com/weekly-brief/wind-energy-weekly-intelligence-brief-3-10-september
The initial plan, which comprises both an R&D program and a demonstration wind farm far off the Dutch coast….
http://www.1888pressrelease.com/dutch-industry-and-knowledge-institutions-take-leading-role-pr-146230.html
…
have joined forces to develop an innovative R&D programm …
Ron, the Barnstable Patriot couldn’t be more wrong. Deepwater Wind will be great when it’s here, but most analysts say it’s at least a decade away.
If we’re talking about proven technology that can actually work within a decade, Cape Wind has it.
Just to add to the deep water wind technology issue: Have you heard of an offshore wind project proposed for 23 miles off the cost of Martha’s Vineyard that would employ technology from a company called “Blue H”?. For awhile, it was fashionable for CW critics to describe this project as evidence that CW should be moved to deep water.
Well, the only thing that Blue H has built is a single platform off of Italy that supports a tiny 80 KW turbine (1/30th the size of a CW turbine). They’ve applied to build a platform with a CW sized turbine off of France, but that’s still in the works. If you go through Blue H’s press releases at http://www.bluehusa.com/ you’ll find an impressive list of ventures that they’ve been contracted to participate in. But they’re all R&D.
Blue H might be a smashing success sometime down the road. But when CW opponents pointed to it as evidence that CW could be moved to deep water, they were dead wrong. Who knows when Blue H will be ready?
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