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Christy lowers the price (again)
10/10/08 · 4:59 pm :: posted by CCToday
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Christy's of Cape Cod selling regular for $3.09 cash, $3.19 with credit card
The new Christy's Mini-Mart on Route 28 in South Orleans is one of 12 locations on Cape Cod selling regular for $3.19 a gallon, and 10 cents a gallon less if buyers pay cash.
Christy Mihos lowered his price for regular grade gas again today.
It is now $3.19 if you pay by credit card and $3.09 if you pay by cash.
In addition, Christy's of Cape Cod is offering diesel at $3.59 which may be the lowest price on Cape Cod.
Reaction to super stores
Mihos, the owner of the Cape convenience store chain, came up with his new 10 cent a gallon discount after the supermarket giant Stop 'n Shop dropped a joint campaign last month which had received over a quarter million responses at the 12 local Christy locations.
That campaign's discount was shared between Stop 'n Shop and Christy's, but when the former dropped it on Sept. 18, Mihos said that he felt that the need was so great during these bad economic times that he should continue to offer something to local residents even if he had to shoulder the burden alone.
Who or what drove gas prices up?
Mr. Mihos also said in a comment below; "there is only one culprit in all of this--it was the petroleum speculators who drove the price from $60 per barrel up to $150 a barrel, never taking title to a drop of the product. we'll be at $65 next week and below $3 faster. not one of these culprits will do a moment in prison for putting our economy in a tailspin. Oil is a commidty that should never be traded as its a national security issue."
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10/10/08 @ 6:08 pm
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
What a shame, nice gesture but you poor folks are still getting ripped off. Gas in central Ohio where we normally run real close to the Cape prices (go figure) we are now down to 2.95 and some areas even cheaper,, cash, or credit..
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Buzz [Member] writes:
Rockhopper,
It's not about the gas, it's about the "Whoopie Pies".
It's not about the gas, it's about the "Whoopie Pies".
murrbuck [Member] writes:
Christy- Thank you...you listen to people. (And yeah...Whoopie pies ROCK!)
Monponsett [Member] writes:
Steve's Wicked, y'all... holla holla holla
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
buzz, I've had the whoopie pies,, not bad, now if they started selling Tasty Kakes,, well that would be a whole different thing, Thats a mid-East coast thing, cant get in OHio either. We do have a whoopie pie thing, however the best come from the small german bakery.
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
Monpon, I didnt know you cared so much XO
CCToday [Member] writes:
Gee, Rocky, you mean if we all move to Central Ohio (where the rivers catch on fire) which is a thousand miles closer to the oil refineries, we could save 10 cent a gallon.
WOW !
Or should I say WHOPPIE !
WOW !
Or should I say WHOPPIE !
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
CC: those of us in Central do not claim that city up north, LOL,, although I will give them credit they have done a wonderful clean up,,but I would an do root for the Red Sox and the Patriots before I would those teams,, and would spend 20 cents more a gallon to see either play. Ya 10 cents, Columbus is a nice place but odd on Gas prices they reflect the Capes prices its uncanny sometimes. Capital city, The OHio State University and Insurance, Banking and (former) Fast food HQ capital. They think we all have money. LOL after prices for football tickets, paying for all the fast food (I dont) then still raking us on insurance what is there left. Oh ya food,, at least you guys have great seafood, Dont ask.
kapekodda [Member] writes:
Thank You Christy! I still think you should run for Governor again.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
Folks--there is only one culprit in all of this--it was the petroleum speculators who drove the price from $60 per barrel up to $150 a barrel, never taking title to a drop of the product. we'll be at $65 next week and below $3 faster. not one of these culprits will do a moment in prison for putting our economy in a tailspin. Oil is a commidty that should never be traded as its a national security issue.
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
Christy, interesting you should say that, I was just talking to someone this morning and commenting on the speculators issue. Could not agree with you more,, The second half Im not totally sure I agree that it should not be traded, but it does bring up an interesting point. I still think the oil industry in general has squelched other options over the past years. But now is the time to move forward and push to become energy independent.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Still doesn't explain why Christy's prices were 25 cents or more higher than off-Cape in the not so distant past. The latest AAA stats still show Cape prices on average, 14 cents more per gallon than the Boston area.
Shecky [Member] writes:
Careful, DemocRANT, you're letting your bias show - why aren't you commenting on all the others who are higher than Christy?
Give us a break, especially if you expect us to read you own rants with an open mind.
Prejudices are the chains forged by ignorance to keep men apart.
Give us a break, especially if you expect us to read you own rants with an open mind.
Prejudices are the chains forged by ignorance to keep men apart.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Shecky, the article was about Christy's, so yes I was specific. It's not as if the others are not as guilty, don't be silly and read something that isn't there. Cumby's is gawdawful on the same thing, heck it was 6 cents difference between Orleans and Brewster Cumby's last weekend, which in turn was much higher than Christy's in Hyannis. A plague on all their houses, Sheck.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
CF is 3.39 in yarmouth and mobil is 359 there too. we're 3.19 today. Democratrant you are wrong about our prices. we watch the market hourly. you have no basis in fact. We are lowering as the market allows us. Go after the speculators who killed us all. This partisan crap you so well represent won't fix a broken economy and put people on the road to recovery. by next week I hope to be below $3--have a nice day.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Get rid of the .10 off per gallon and give away a free "Whoopie Pie" with every fill-up.... now your talking.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Christy, I'm not making a partisan point, when I point out gas prices on the Cape, that included your stores in the summer, are higher than off-Cape. Kudos when you get them more competitive, but I don't think anyone would seriously dispute that during the summer. Cape prices were 25 cents higher than Boston prices one month ago, according to AAA. I've been blogging on this since 2006. And I know that it cost more for me to fill at Christy's in Orleans this September, even after a coupon, than I spent a couple days before in Plymouth. Rather than hosannas for being competitive, it's about time someone was. I'm guessing it's still not a loss leader, though we all seem to be helping deplete the whoopie pie supply also :).
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
Christy: I do have a question and I think in one sense Demo. has a valid question. I often wonder about it here in ohio as well, but more so when I travel to the Cape. What makes it that the Capes gas runs anywhere from 10 to 25 cents sometimes more a gallon then places just on the other side of the bridge. Even the Umass Turnpike was a few cents cheaper. I dont get it. The turnpike is just highway robbery (literally) I can even under tourist season to some degree (not really) but what is it now? Can you or anyone explain it. I have the same question between Columbus, OHio and 10-15 miles outside the city it runs 10 cents a gallon cheap,, dont get it. Sorry and I dont think Im stupid either.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
CC Rockhopper--glad you asked about the MASS PIKE Gas locations--I served on that Board as Vice Chair and negotiated the 11 service area plaza operating leases. To keep the gas service at reasonable prices we inserted language that mandated the Pike gas operator could not be higher than the median price of the five closest gas stations in the closest towns. Volume on the Pike gas stations went from 35 million gallons in 2000 to over 64million gallons last year. in this case less is more. As regards the price on the cape, we are in a different cost market and our expenses are much higher than off the cape. we try to stay within the market daily. I do dispute the 10 to 25 cents over the bridge though. Plus, it all depends how an operator is contracted to buy. in half our sites we are a dealer and can not buy on the open market. I can tell you straight-on that the prices this summer were on a rocket rise each day, many times with an emergency price notice at 9 AM whereas the price each day is set at 4 PM or so when the market closes. Its over and I for one am glad that it is.
Democrant [Member] writes:
I'm not sure how you can dispute the cost difference over the bridge, AAA statistics and multiple posts by people here over the past couple years confirms this. It's a fact.
We've heard much about higher expenses, but I've never seen anything that details what these expenses are that would result in such a large difference in price.
We've heard much about higher expenses, but I've never seen anything that details what these expenses are that would result in such a large difference in price.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
let me give you just a couple. years to go thru a permit process to get a site permitted. mandates placed upon construction. The Cape Cod Commission, property tax rates, cape construction costs, 5 years to get a permit in Buzzards Bay, 8 years at Bourne rotary, $147,000 as mitigation for the permit in bourne to transportation fund and town issues[this all for a 2400 square foot store], $20,000 traffic studies at every turn, legal fees at $100,000 for every site permitted, Towns mandating clerk coverage, lawsuits for any reason to stop growth, each site is a $3million investment with all the above.
Again, please compare apples to apples.
there are different classes of purchasing models. if you are a dealer you can;t compare it to a company operation. ie, in chatham right now we're a dealer operation. the cost of mobil is 25 cents higher than our Christy's brand. same spigot-go figure.
Again, please compare apples to apples.
there are different classes of purchasing models. if you are a dealer you can;t compare it to a company operation. ie, in chatham right now we're a dealer operation. the cost of mobil is 25 cents higher than our Christy's brand. same spigot-go figure.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Every development, in any town has multitude of hoops to jump through. While I appreciate your speaking specifically to some of the specifics of your stores, any gas station is going to go through a rigorous permitting process.
And again, it's welcome that your prices are now more competitve to those over the bridge. The reality is for people is that in the summer, there was a twenty six cent difference per gallon between the Cape and the state average. That difference is now down to a 16 cent difference and if this is like other years, will further decrease. It isn't hard to put the cause and effect together.
And again, it's welcome that your prices are now more competitve to those over the bridge. The reality is for people is that in the summer, there was a twenty six cent difference per gallon between the Cape and the state average. That difference is now down to a 16 cent difference and if this is like other years, will further decrease. It isn't hard to put the cause and effect together.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Permitting, tax rates, buying power......how about good old profiteering? He's in business to make money. If he can squeak a few extra nickels out of the summer tourists.... so be it.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
Dem..rant---you so casually dismiss the cost of doing business on the cape. well--it is what it is and I only gave you a small sampling of the process ot get one of these built. And Buzz--you are right on, we are not a not for profit. hopefully, that will continue even if the Ds grab the White House.
Democrant [Member] writes:
I don't dismiss it sir, I just don't think it fully accounts for the difference. You disputed that there was as much as a 25 cents a gallon difference; AAA claims otherwise. Now if you are acknowledging Buzz's point that we just have to understand and deal with the soak the tourist prices, that would be the most honest thing I've heard in a while.
And by the way, before you make the partisan point about Dems and profits, you ought to consider who's been running things this century. Ooops ;). A little research done in 2004 demonstrates otherwise - http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm, so chin up!
And by the way, before you make the partisan point about Dems and profits, you ought to consider who's been running things this century. Ooops ;). A little research done in 2004 demonstrates otherwise - http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm, so chin up!
ubiquitous [Member] writes:
Christy owes no apologie-
To sustain a business requires a profit-
Simple math for business-
correct in the party who has stonewalled oil production-
and refining-
proof otherwise?-
To sustain a business requires a profit-
Simple math for business-
correct in the party who has stonewalled oil production-
and refining-
proof otherwise?-
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
remember james schlesinger pres. Carters Energy Czar= the was late 1970s=nothing has happened in a meaningful way since then. As soon as the president said drill baby drill in august, the price has tanked. we have to do everything to bring affordable energy to our people. I'm an independent=a pox on both parties for playing the taxpayers like they have. I absolutely dispise the system that rewards the theives on wall steet and created this meltdown. its your dems and the repubs pal that have killed this golden goose. so don;t give me that crap about one is responsible and the pure pary of kennedy/kerry/frank are innocent. just keep up with the talking points you Ds and Rs are so adept at polluting the air with. And Rant IF public was being ripped off as only you know--call martha coakley and take a excessive profits charge against us.
Buzz [Member] writes:
When Obama is elected the prices will be consistent. You'll be able to pull up to the gas station on your assigned day, give your voucher for your 6 gallons and be on your way..... No WHOOPIE PIE for you.
jobuli [Member] writes:
Interestingly, this past Summer-taking the bike out for a ride up to P-Town from Barnstale area- can anyone- anyone at all explain why gas in P-Town- the furthest point on the Cape- was anywhere from .06 cents to .10 cents CHEAPER than Orleans, Brewster and work your way back.... I think we started seeing the prices drop around Wellfleet. To me, average Josie consumer, this doesn't make any sense whatsoever-so could someone please explain that one?
Democrant [Member] writes:
Christy, I've said on my own blog that there is plenty of blame to go around. I didn't say one party is responsible, I was merely pointing out that statistically, the economy has done better in Dem administrations, just going with the numbers.
And I think that daring me to file something with the AG's office, is hardly an answer as to why there is a 25 cent price difference in the summer that diminishes after the season. Now it's entirely possible Gulf charges you a different amount than they do on the other side of the bridge, but who knows. I just know what the numbers are.
And I think that daring me to file something with the AG's office, is hardly an answer as to why there is a 25 cent price difference in the summer that diminishes after the season. Now it's entirely possible Gulf charges you a different amount than they do on the other side of the bridge, but who knows. I just know what the numbers are.
maverick [Member] writes:
Christy...please stop trying to defend yourself with this crowd. It has nothing to do with your gas prices.
But it does have everything to do with your politics and position on Cape Wind.
But it does have everything to do with your politics and position on Cape Wind.
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
Mav---I'm shocked. thanks--methinks Buzz has it right too. Happy columbus day to all---great exchanging messages to all--let Indian Summer last and last and last.
jobuli [Member] writes:
So, no insight as to the cheaper prices up P-Town way this Summer?
CCToday [Member] writes:
Just in from Ptown where regular was $3.39.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Not me Mav, I'm on the same side as Christy on that. Lacking any other answer, I guess we can assume that the reason there is a quarter or more a gallon price differential between the rest of the state and the Cape in summer, is to make money on the tourists, too bad for the year rounders. Just one of the many ways it is made more difficult for people to stay here.
ladyj [Member] writes:
I was up to P-Town a couple of times this summer and saws the same thing- I think it was the cumby's
Monponsett [Member] writes:
You can't find it for over $3.00 a gallon in mainland Bourne or Wareham.
CC Rockhopper [Member] writes:
Christy, pardon the delay, thank you for the answer, I knew cost were somewhat higher on the Cape but that much difference I didnt expect, that runs about 1/4 to 1/2 mill more then most off Cape sights (not city bound). I did figure worker cost were a little higher. As to Buzz comment, I wouldnt even make that bold of a statement if "Thee King" were to show up. Mav. I know we would like to blame everything on politics, but I just think is it the times. If Christy was everyones dream politician they would still nail him on the price of Gas, why because he is the outlet, not saying its right and pro Wind? the group of loud mouths against Cape Wind is really much fewer and could power a few turbines with their hot air then those that really hold that against him. Those that make decisions will always have a bulls eye on them, I dont think its fair but its true. Its more so, how does one handle it. And from everything I continue to see, Christy although I dont agree with everything, holds himself well in the storm. Only 3 more years, Change in Mass go Christy & Ohio go Kasich
christy at christy's [Member] writes:
john Kasich would make a fantastic governor. all the best to you out there CC Rockhopper---and good wishes to Ohio thru this meltdown.
Democrant [Member] writes:
I would be curious as to the broad range of prices that can be found from stations selling Gulf oil. A search on prices from the past 24 hours on massachusettsgasprices.com shows a range from a low of 2.79 to a high of 3.19 . The higher numbers naturally being on the Cape.
jimboosb [Member] writes:
Why only Gulf gas? If you're still looking to single out Christy's, they haven't sold Gulf gas in 3 or 4 months. They sell unbranded gas in most locations under the 'Christy's' banner which means they are supplied by a spot market supplier such as Apache Oil Sprague Energy. In other locations Christy already explained that they are an Exxon dealer.
jimboosb [Member] writes:
Looks like I inadvertantly merged Apache Oil and Sprague Energy by omitting the 'or'. Sorry.
Democrant [Member] writes:
jim- I know, Christy mentioned that in another post. But it is curious how, just taking one brand, there is such a price differential, don'tcha think? When Christy disputed the 10-25 cents difference over the bridge, I knew I was pretty sure then, I wouldn't get anywhere on this.
jimboosb [Member] writes:
THere is no doubt that the Cape gas retailers are sticking it to year-round residents in their zeal to grab as much from the tourists during the spring & summer. Now that summer has ended the spread with be less than 15 cents per gal. The cost differential is no more than a penny a gallon and construction & development costs on the Cape are within striking distance of anywhere else in the state. The rip off is even more pronounced when you buy premium gas. According to my research premium costs about 20 cents per gallon more but retailers charge 40 to 50 cents more. Cape retailers were making 40 to 50 cents a gallon profit when the price was dropping. Unheard of in the industry.
Peter Kenney [Member] writes:
Good going Christie...good going.
And thank you.
And thank you.
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