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The Post-Election Rant
11/07/08 · 11:33 am :: posted by Democrant
Now the hard part begins, huh?
Whether you supported Obama or not, I hope everyone appreciates the history of what happened Tuesday night. The same people that celebrated in the streets MUST be engaged in the process, whether it is in their towns, state or wherever. Certainly the world looks at us differently now.
With today's economic summit, the Obama transition is looking more like it will be a shadow government, hitting the ground running on 1/20/09. Given the crises to deal with, that is a good thing. If you haven't seen, there is a transition website change.gov, up and running.
Before any Democrat gets too cocky, please remember that it was in this very decade that the GOP machine looked like it had rendered the Dems out of the picture. These things run in cycles, folks.
OK, except in Massachusetts where the GOP lost even more ground. Howell and Beatty didn't even win their own town.
McCain's concession was gracious and one hopes that perhaps since his presidential aspirations are gone, he will go back to being John McCain again.
And just for entertainment purposes, I hope Sarah Palin stays Sarah Palin. Not even the end of the week and the number of stories that have popped to the surface are hysterical. Mind you, as Campbell Brown on CNN so accurately refrained to the GOP people trashing her... YOU picked her! YOU told us she was capable of being a heartbeat away!
While Kerry did not do as well on the Cape as he did in the rest of the state, he did virtually the same as he did down here when running for president. In 2004, he got 55.8% on the Cape, this year, 55.3%. Obama did slightly better than Kerry did in 2004, getting 57.4% of the vote. McCain did about the same worse, compared to Bush '04, as Obama did better. Of the 24 towns on the Cape and Islands, Obama outperformed Kerry '04 in 19 of them.
LOTS of ticket splitters in Sandwich, as Jeff Perry rang up 8504 votes there, compared to 5928 for McCain (and 6111 for Obama).
I stood at the polls most of the day, holding signs, kibbitzing, enjoying the unseasonably warm air we had. My favorite and proudest moment was when my youngest daughter came by, when her mom stopped in to vote. My daughter had a handmade sign she had created asking people to vote Yes on Question 3. She ended up spending a couple hours out there, holding her sign and one of the more printed signs. She even took an Obama sign for a bit. She was pretty happy when her side of the issue prevailed. Her dad, the grizzled veteran of these things warned her, "Enjoy this, it doesn't always turn out that way for you."
No matter what side you are on, staying engaged is what should be expected of us as citizens.
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11/07/08 @ 5:22 pm
John [Member] writes:
I thought we were supposed to get "change." So why did we return everyone to office? What are you going to say about our Democrat Gov. when he opts to change a law to appoint a replacement for John Kerry if he becomes Secretary of State. We should all give our new president the same respect that Dems give George Bush.
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maverick [Member] writes:
John...It's over. Just bend over and get a grip. "Respect" is not in the Dem's vocab.
Keep the faith. If Sarah runs around in a towel long enough I am sure she can capture the male vote. Look forward to 2012.
Keep the faith. If Sarah runs around in a towel long enough I am sure she can capture the male vote. Look forward to 2012.
possee [Member] writes:
mav, John..
My goodness..are you surprised all the leftover Clinton rumswabs(nod to Howie Carr)are now advising and running the "change"'s new administration?
I assumed we were on the road to nirvana..
Guess I was confused with the myriad of hype and hyperbole ..
possee
My goodness..are you surprised all the leftover Clinton rumswabs(nod to Howie Carr)are now advising and running the "change"'s new administration?
I assumed we were on the road to nirvana..
Guess I was confused with the myriad of hype and hyperbole ..
possee
possee [Member] writes:
All the problems facing our emperor will be blamed on Bush for at least the next 20 years..
Bush derangement syndrome will be continuing for a long time..
and never,never, ever will a democrat take the blame for anything..
they have conditioned themselves well to blame everything on the repubs..not that they don't deserve equal blame.
but, please... can't any dem admit guilt?...ever.../
Never!
That's why they won and don't self implode and destroy their own party as the repubs do..
possee
Bush derangement syndrome will be continuing for a long time..
and never,never, ever will a democrat take the blame for anything..
they have conditioned themselves well to blame everything on the repubs..not that they don't deserve equal blame.
but, please... can't any dem admit guilt?...ever.../
Never!
That's why they won and don't self implode and destroy their own party as the repubs do..
possee
maverick [Member] writes:
posse...have no fear. He will be gone after the fourth year.
Like snow in the springtime. Gone for a lifetime.
Like snow in the springtime. Gone for a lifetime.
Democrant [Member] writes:
I knew I count on the whiners to come through. Now when it comes to respect, I recall quite well when Dubya had an approval rating of what... 90%? People rallied around after 9/11, even if he did steal the election ;).
Before you get all wrapped up in any former Clinton folks being involved in the government, try and recall the state of the economy when Clinton left, with a surplus.
The change, for those of you that still don't get it, is from what Bush has done to this country. Instead of whining, trying and fix all the ways your party has screwed things up. Novel idea, huh?
Before you get all wrapped up in any former Clinton folks being involved in the government, try and recall the state of the economy when Clinton left, with a surplus.
The change, for those of you that still don't get it, is from what Bush has done to this country. Instead of whining, trying and fix all the ways your party has screwed things up. Novel idea, huh?
Monponsett [Member] writes:
Beatty should let my surgeon friend fix his upper lip... I bet that cost him like 5%.
maverick [Member] writes:
Hello!!!...now a poll as to the "White House Puppy". I am in favor of a "pit bull".
But I'm sure everyone will vote for a dalmation. Thats OK. That was my first pup in 1946.
But I'm sure everyone will vote for a dalmation. Thats OK. That was my first pup in 1946.
possee [Member] writes:
That rally around Bush after 911 lasted a few weeks then back to attack..
Let's hold any sitting presidents feet to the fire..
I will show him the same consideration as Bush or Clinton...
after all, he's just a man..
and not my saviour
At least Clinton, Bush, Ford,Reagan, Carter didn't slam a former 1st lady in their 1st press conference..
what a class act!
Was Joe Biden advising him on that gaffe?
This is going to be quite an interesting 4 years..
Looks like a resurgence for SNL!!
And you thought Bush's gaffes were fodder..just wait...
possee
Let's hold any sitting presidents feet to the fire..
I will show him the same consideration as Bush or Clinton...
after all, he's just a man..
and not my saviour
At least Clinton, Bush, Ford,Reagan, Carter didn't slam a former 1st lady in their 1st press conference..
what a class act!
Was Joe Biden advising him on that gaffe?
This is going to be quite an interesting 4 years..
Looks like a resurgence for SNL!!
And you thought Bush's gaffes were fodder..just wait...
possee
Democrant [Member] writes:
oh gawwwd, it'll be fun to listen to the hypocrites and revisionists....next?
crusader [Member] writes:
AIG execs who partied on 400k bailout funds- who did they vote for? How about the brokerage firm exec who squandered on helicopter rides to work? Those guys democrats? Doubtful. Little boy George made his friends rich on the war while fighting against the struggling middle class. How wealthy have certain investors become and what offshore accounts are they hiding their money? My guess is many have fleeced and outright robbed because they got the news early. The fall of the US economy and destabilization of middle class was a diliberate and malicious attack on America. Anyone, who refuses to accept that truth is living comfortably or too ignorant to understand we have passively condoned enterprising criminal loansharking in the Casino Whitehouse Royale. Fox was guarding the chickens and we rang their dinner bell. ENRON, dotcom, loansharking Freddy's Fanny. What the hell is the difference. All criminals in three piece Armanis. Order a few thousand orange jumpsuits and put them to work on cleaning the other trash. Lock them up. Just as you would a robber with a gun- they are all one in the same.
crusader [Member] writes:
Possee,
The short lived "rally around Bush" was due to the lies and unanswered questions swirling around,still unanswered, investigators who slowly realized it was not an act of isolated terrorism by one group of Bush haters, but far more complicated series of fiscal mishaps which led to lucrative war for manufacturers. We found out Saddam was on the Bush hit list for CIA daddy along with same henchmen in adm.rummy, ashcrank, and others. Who's war have we really been fighting? Who had the most to gain? Hard one to swallow, but after this last heinous act of embezzlement on our 401k's, what else is there to say? Do we blame innocent Americans for leaving their money on wallstreet? That must be their fault, too. My money is in Fidelity. Guess they will drive them out soon as well, they just keep stealing our money till nothing is left. When do the massive bank robberies begin? Obama has to hire a group of mercenaries and put them behind bars. But I'm afraid soon he will realize he's surrounded by another den of theives.
The short lived "rally around Bush" was due to the lies and unanswered questions swirling around,still unanswered, investigators who slowly realized it was not an act of isolated terrorism by one group of Bush haters, but far more complicated series of fiscal mishaps which led to lucrative war for manufacturers. We found out Saddam was on the Bush hit list for CIA daddy along with same henchmen in adm.rummy, ashcrank, and others. Who's war have we really been fighting? Who had the most to gain? Hard one to swallow, but after this last heinous act of embezzlement on our 401k's, what else is there to say? Do we blame innocent Americans for leaving their money on wallstreet? That must be their fault, too. My money is in Fidelity. Guess they will drive them out soon as well, they just keep stealing our money till nothing is left. When do the massive bank robberies begin? Obama has to hire a group of mercenaries and put them behind bars. But I'm afraid soon he will realize he's surrounded by another den of theives.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Honestly Cru, you can't see past your nose to spite your face.
Why don't you do a little research on the following Obama associates and see what you come up with:
James Johnson CEO Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, Christopher Edley Jr, William Daley
Or how about his newly appointed Chief of Staff, Raham Emanuel? He was Director of Freddie Mac during the scandal.
Get back to me on those will ya?
Why don't you do a little research on the following Obama associates and see what you come up with:
James Johnson CEO Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, Christopher Edley Jr, William Daley
Or how about his newly appointed Chief of Staff, Raham Emanuel? He was Director of Freddie Mac during the scandal.
Get back to me on those will ya?
bittersweet [Member] writes:
No, they blame Clinton and Barney Frank.
After all, they spent billions impeaching Billo for an affair. But lying, killing, high-way robbery? Nah...doesn't rise to the impeachment level. Please.
These crooks deserve the death penalty and I don't even believe in it.
So, don't bother being Americans first, like you always preach, but never practice....fat Boy Rush was the first to say "He's not MY president".
Just be your mean, ugly, thug-like, elite snob un-American, my money first Republicans that we have come to know.
Go to Dubai with Cheney. That's his brand of "country first"...Saudi Arabia. That's who we die for. It's the oil, stupid.
Hopefully, your negativity will be drowned out by people who really care about the future of this country, not just their bank accounts.
Out with the old.....forever!!!
After all, they spent billions impeaching Billo for an affair. But lying, killing, high-way robbery? Nah...doesn't rise to the impeachment level. Please.
These crooks deserve the death penalty and I don't even believe in it.
So, don't bother being Americans first, like you always preach, but never practice....fat Boy Rush was the first to say "He's not MY president".
Just be your mean, ugly, thug-like, elite snob un-American, my money first Republicans that we have come to know.
Go to Dubai with Cheney. That's his brand of "country first"...Saudi Arabia. That's who we die for. It's the oil, stupid.
Hopefully, your negativity will be drowned out by people who really care about the future of this country, not just their bank accounts.
Out with the old.....forever!!!
Ned [Member] writes:
maverick [Member] writes: "Press 3 for Ebonics" and 'Hello!!!...now a poll as to the "White House Puppy". I am in favor of a "pit bull".' ------
Possibly it's time to rename the boat "The African Queen" since "Maverick"s are passe...
Possibly it's time to rename the boat "The African Queen" since "Maverick"s are passe...
Buzz [Member] writes:
I need "Nedbonics" what the hell is he saying half the time?
crusader [Member] writes:
Neddy,
"The African Queen"...?..LOL..oh, Neddy, you sure do come up with some good ones....
Mav, you should be careful, some of your comments could be misconstrued.
Many of us are upset about the state of this country and we are all effected one way or the other. Whether directly or indirectly by a friend or family member losing his or her job, healthcare, 401k, stocks, home, business, health, peace of mind, sanity....someone mentioned to me that it is just like the 1930 depression when the rich took over...people who lost businesses and homes watched in horror as the wealthy scooped up their years of hard work. Is that what really happened? Homes and businesses lost by the struggling middle class were taken be the rich? Is history repeating itself once again? Maybe the midwest farmers have the right idea--buy your land/home outright, live off the land and distance yourself from government and urban tax traps. Is that the better way of life? Many MA residents have moved to NH, ME and FL, but there are other problems in those states, right? It's national, it's global!
"The African Queen"...?..LOL..oh, Neddy, you sure do come up with some good ones....
Mav, you should be careful, some of your comments could be misconstrued.
Many of us are upset about the state of this country and we are all effected one way or the other. Whether directly or indirectly by a friend or family member losing his or her job, healthcare, 401k, stocks, home, business, health, peace of mind, sanity....someone mentioned to me that it is just like the 1930 depression when the rich took over...people who lost businesses and homes watched in horror as the wealthy scooped up their years of hard work. Is that what really happened? Homes and businesses lost by the struggling middle class were taken be the rich? Is history repeating itself once again? Maybe the midwest farmers have the right idea--buy your land/home outright, live off the land and distance yourself from government and urban tax traps. Is that the better way of life? Many MA residents have moved to NH, ME and FL, but there are other problems in those states, right? It's national, it's global!
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,
You cannot compare Obama to that Nazi president and his ugly regime. Go back to your history books and find out who Bush's grandpappy was supplying arms to, then come back and tell me what YOU FIND.
Ask any Anthropologist who travels to distant lands and they will tell you the real story about Bush and his rogues. I assisted a faculty member once who studied the devastation of Sierra Leone in the late 90's. She asked me to download all I could on what was going on there. At the time, I didn't realize the magnitude of slaughter on young children forced to work in the diamond mines. When I asked her why this story was not on the front page of the US papers she went into a rage and screamed, "because the US govt. doesn't give a SH!T". I was appauled and believed what she said. There is no oil in Africa. But they do have diamonds, don't they. She's from the UK, btw. Interesting how college kids get the uncensored news in class and the rest of us are dumb down day after day. Don't believe in fairy tales anymore.
The English have never stopped colonizing the world...HELLO!
You cannot compare Obama to that Nazi president and his ugly regime. Go back to your history books and find out who Bush's grandpappy was supplying arms to, then come back and tell me what YOU FIND.
Ask any Anthropologist who travels to distant lands and they will tell you the real story about Bush and his rogues. I assisted a faculty member once who studied the devastation of Sierra Leone in the late 90's. She asked me to download all I could on what was going on there. At the time, I didn't realize the magnitude of slaughter on young children forced to work in the diamond mines. When I asked her why this story was not on the front page of the US papers she went into a rage and screamed, "because the US govt. doesn't give a SH!T". I was appauled and believed what she said. There is no oil in Africa. But they do have diamonds, don't they. She's from the UK, btw. Interesting how college kids get the uncensored news in class and the rest of us are dumb down day after day. Don't believe in fairy tales anymore.
The English have never stopped colonizing the world...HELLO!
maverick [Member] writes:
Cru...misconstrued? As in politically incorrect? Insensitive?
How would you characterize your rant on Sarah?
It's a free country. At least until January.
How would you characterize your rant on Sarah?
It's a free country. At least until January.
crusader [Member] writes:
...all I'm saying is that sometimes one must step back and see how the rest of the world is before they can understand the complexities of their own country.
We have not been winning any popularity contests with the global community and for this Nazi president to thumb his nose in everyone's face, was simply wrong and placed the American people in grave jeopardy in my opinion.
One does not have to be arrogant to show strength. Some great leaders use wisdom as strength and that counts more than one who is hell bent on waging useless wars on innocent people.
It's time we took our country back. And I wish more of you would understand the bigger picture at hand. Obama's strength is having Biden by his side. Biden's been around for a long time and knows what the deal is in Washington. Instead of criticizing, you should give him a chance. I would hope that the two will work as conservative Democrats, the way I was raised. It's a good balance and a human one. We must have compassion for the middle class who are faced with financial disaster. The middleclass is our backbone.
We have not been winning any popularity contests with the global community and for this Nazi president to thumb his nose in everyone's face, was simply wrong and placed the American people in grave jeopardy in my opinion.
One does not have to be arrogant to show strength. Some great leaders use wisdom as strength and that counts more than one who is hell bent on waging useless wars on innocent people.
It's time we took our country back. And I wish more of you would understand the bigger picture at hand. Obama's strength is having Biden by his side. Biden's been around for a long time and knows what the deal is in Washington. Instead of criticizing, you should give him a chance. I would hope that the two will work as conservative Democrats, the way I was raised. It's a good balance and a human one. We must have compassion for the middle class who are faced with financial disaster. The middleclass is our backbone.
crusader [Member] writes:
Mav,
If Sarah Palin had been a qualified Republican VP candidate, I respect her, regardless of her make up, 60's beehive & short skirts. Win based on looks? All she had to do was open her mouth & it was all over. Many of us could see the "white trash hussy" in the 250k wardrobe paid for by McCains dipsh!ts. Even Reps. spoke out against her,& realized there were far better qualified, experienced & bright women McCain could have picked. In my opinion, she hurt McCain & the party. I see her as a narcissistic, corrupt, opportunist who's only mission was to lavish her husband with more power, & expensive gifts. Anyone looking at that couple sees it for what it is. He's always walking behind her, not beside her, you notice that? Who wears the pants? Her daughter is 17, getting married, having a baby. What is she trying to promote--women should remain in the kitchen, pregnant & barefoot? Sure the bible belters love her, but that way of life is not for all of us. Some teens & pro-lifers don't want more out of life, they settle too soon because many men would rather have a mommy for life.
If Sarah Palin had been a qualified Republican VP candidate, I respect her, regardless of her make up, 60's beehive & short skirts. Win based on looks? All she had to do was open her mouth & it was all over. Many of us could see the "white trash hussy" in the 250k wardrobe paid for by McCains dipsh!ts. Even Reps. spoke out against her,& realized there were far better qualified, experienced & bright women McCain could have picked. In my opinion, she hurt McCain & the party. I see her as a narcissistic, corrupt, opportunist who's only mission was to lavish her husband with more power, & expensive gifts. Anyone looking at that couple sees it for what it is. He's always walking behind her, not beside her, you notice that? Who wears the pants? Her daughter is 17, getting married, having a baby. What is she trying to promote--women should remain in the kitchen, pregnant & barefoot? Sure the bible belters love her, but that way of life is not for all of us. Some teens & pro-lifers don't want more out of life, they settle too soon because many men would rather have a mommy for life.
crusader [Member] writes:
Mav,
Meant..."I'd have more respect regardless of her make up..." I'm basing my argument on the fact that she is UNQUALIFIED, think "the boys" didn't want a strong woman as a VP, because if they did, they would have picked one. Palin is not intelligent, educated, or experienced enough to hold the very important position of VP of the US.
Come one, Mav, let's be real here. If Johnny Depp was running for VP as a Dem, I would not vote for him either! He's not qualified for the job, bottom line. But he's a major heart throb, to many women who like a quick fantasy, so what the hell is the difference? At least Johnny doesn't have turkey neck.
Mav, I'll always love you regardless of politics or how you dump on my lovable friend Neddy....but please take another look at the aging brunette barbie doll, will ya? She's not helping your party, but making a mockery of it instead. I see her as a bubble headed housewife who got lucky in a state that doesn't know any better..Alaska..filled with wildlife, working poor & mountain men. I'd rather jump off the nearest cliff than live there!
Meant..."I'd have more respect regardless of her make up..." I'm basing my argument on the fact that she is UNQUALIFIED, think "the boys" didn't want a strong woman as a VP, because if they did, they would have picked one. Palin is not intelligent, educated, or experienced enough to hold the very important position of VP of the US.
Come one, Mav, let's be real here. If Johnny Depp was running for VP as a Dem, I would not vote for him either! He's not qualified for the job, bottom line. But he's a major heart throb, to many women who like a quick fantasy, so what the hell is the difference? At least Johnny doesn't have turkey neck.
Mav, I'll always love you regardless of politics or how you dump on my lovable friend Neddy....but please take another look at the aging brunette barbie doll, will ya? She's not helping your party, but making a mockery of it instead. I see her as a bubble headed housewife who got lucky in a state that doesn't know any better..Alaska..filled with wildlife, working poor & mountain men. I'd rather jump off the nearest cliff than live there!
bittersweet [Member] writes:
Actually crusader, there is an article in the New Yorker all about Sarah Palin. How she "courted" the radical right-wing press in Alaska with scenic trips and luncheons at the mansion. William Kristol apparently went gaga over her as did a few other right-wing press people, and they pushed for her as V.P..
So, she really in no stranger to "inside"
politics as they like to claim. She worked the press like a pro.
Nothing wrong with that...just admit it.
And I don't think anyone misconstrues people's meanings here...it's clear as day.
So, I'm waiting for all of you who always call Obama "Hussein" to start calling Rahm Emmanuel "Israel", sine that IS his middle name.
Now THAT would be politically incorrect, eh?
Betcha no one has the balls.
Yet they throw around "Hussein" endlessly....interesting, isn't it?
So, she really in no stranger to "inside"
politics as they like to claim. She worked the press like a pro.
Nothing wrong with that...just admit it.
And I don't think anyone misconstrues people's meanings here...it's clear as day.
So, I'm waiting for all of you who always call Obama "Hussein" to start calling Rahm Emmanuel "Israel", sine that IS his middle name.
Now THAT would be politically incorrect, eh?
Betcha no one has the balls.
Yet they throw around "Hussein" endlessly....interesting, isn't it?
maverick [Member] writes:
bitter...I honestly don't believe there was anyone happier than I that America voted in a Black American.
Was I on the conservative side? Yes. Did I think John and Sarah were the best choice the Repub's had? No.
Having said that I wish Obama all the best for the future. But have reservations about his qualifications and character.
Why if he is so all embracing are media outlets that challenge him being ostracized?
Was I on the conservative side? Yes. Did I think John and Sarah were the best choice the Repub's had? No.
Having said that I wish Obama all the best for the future. But have reservations about his qualifications and character.
Why if he is so all embracing are media outlets that challenge him being ostracized?
Democrant [Member] writes:
I guess when Faux News begins to act like a responsible news outlet, life will be better for them? There was thus great clip on the Daily Show, when Chris Wallace was on,about the "stories" Fox ran the day before.
Now Mav, when you say it's a free country til January, I'm pretty sure that overlooking the current administration's tendency to traipse over the Constitution was an oversight.
It was nice to read how the transition team is already working on hundreded of executive orders to rescind, such as stem cell research, the environment, etc. It was nice to see a poll that 2/3's of America were proud and optimistic.
Being a Dem, I am looking forward to seeing how we mess up a good thing...
Now Mav, when you say it's a free country til January, I'm pretty sure that overlooking the current administration's tendency to traipse over the Constitution was an oversight.
It was nice to read how the transition team is already working on hundreded of executive orders to rescind, such as stem cell research, the environment, etc. It was nice to see a poll that 2/3's of America were proud and optimistic.
Being a Dem, I am looking forward to seeing how we mess up a good thing...
Buzz [Member] writes:
bitter says: "William Kristol apparently went gaga over her as did a few other right-wing press people"
Tell me bitter, how did the "left wing" go gaga over Obama? How about Chris Matthews getting a "tingly" feeling up his leg? How about CNN? CBS? ABC? MSNBC.... all in Obama's back pocket. Then, you have a news anchor say "we don't really no much about him"... no Shi*
Tell me bitter, how did the "left wing" go gaga over Obama? How about Chris Matthews getting a "tingly" feeling up his leg? How about CNN? CBS? ABC? MSNBC.... all in Obama's back pocket. Then, you have a news anchor say "we don't really no much about him"... no Shi*
bittersweet [Member] writes:
Sarah Palin was claiming to be an "outsider"...a "maverick"...not part of the crowd.
She sold herself that way.
Well, it wasn't true. She used her influence as gov. to get people to pay attention to her, and I'm sure she used other things as well.....not an insult, just the way things are.
If you got it, you flaunt it. Especially in politics.
That's all I'm saying. She is a politician just like all the rest.
She's not just regular folk.
Obama never claimed to be something other than a guy trying to get elected.
And I'm waiting to see how long before the Republicans totally destroy any hope of real change.
Hopefully, the optimism of the country will over-run their quest for Obama and this country to fail....
As Mr. *cough* Jay Severin stated months ago.
His call for people to destroy the Obama presidency.
Don't need a "fairness"
doctrine as far as I'm concerned.
I'll never listen to them any more. I've switched to "urban radio", which my view-point is more in tune with.
Hate radio....I've had enough. And Hate tv too...god, what a nightmare we have been in!!!
Hallelluja it's over.
She sold herself that way.
Well, it wasn't true. She used her influence as gov. to get people to pay attention to her, and I'm sure she used other things as well.....not an insult, just the way things are.
If you got it, you flaunt it. Especially in politics.
That's all I'm saying. She is a politician just like all the rest.
She's not just regular folk.
Obama never claimed to be something other than a guy trying to get elected.
And I'm waiting to see how long before the Republicans totally destroy any hope of real change.
Hopefully, the optimism of the country will over-run their quest for Obama and this country to fail....
As Mr. *cough* Jay Severin stated months ago.
His call for people to destroy the Obama presidency.
Don't need a "fairness"
doctrine as far as I'm concerned.
I'll never listen to them any more. I've switched to "urban radio", which my view-point is more in tune with.
Hate radio....I've had enough. And Hate tv too...god, what a nightmare we have been in!!!
Hallelluja it's over.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Obama is my President and now that the election is over I'm behind him. I just find it funny how a few here can't admit that he was in the pocket of Freddie and Frannie and some of his associates including Rahn Emanuel was so closely associated with the financial collapse.
ekzept [Member] writes:
No one should kid themselves that any President or party will stop the economic horror of 2009 and following. It's just that Barack Obama and his cadre are our last, best chance. What Greenspan did not get and admitted he didn't is that the crisis and crash is due entirely and simply to our long time economic success, and it is coming with the inevitability of a hurricane. It wasn't about Freddie, Fannie, or credit derivatives. These were symptoms. It was about long term risk not being properly accounted for in prices and loan standards, just like long term effects of climate change aren't properly reflected in taxes, property prices, and insurance premiums. It is and was a Taleb-style "Black Swan". Read Nouriel Roubini at RGEMonitor. The new commander-in-chief needs to be careful, considerate, and deliberate, as every indication is he will be. And I think all constituencies will be properly disappointed, and will need a lot of patience. He'll be tough, smart, and clever. But there are no miracles. Russia will test and al-Qaida will try to attack. And he'll show his mettle.
Don [Member] writes:
This partisan ranting isn't the answer to anything; there's plenty of bipartisan blame to go around.
I remember when Clinton proposed and passed banking "reform". That action dismantled one of the most important safeguards enacted in the aftermath of the Great Depression by allowing banks to once again combine with insurance companies and brokerage houses (and took away most regulatory oversight by state banking commissions).
Likewise, Bush has presided over the largest explosion of Federal growth and influence ever. So much for small government Republicanism.
All the while, both parties argued over social agendas.
We need to get serious and somehow adress a problem festering under 5 Presidents and 3 changes in Congressional leadership. As far back as Paul Volcker, there have been periodic clandestine meetings with "power brokers" (like Walter Wriston) to address the near collapse of the financial system. Sound familiar?
We've all got some major problems to address and bickering and delaying will only make the solutions harder to come by.
I remember when Clinton proposed and passed banking "reform". That action dismantled one of the most important safeguards enacted in the aftermath of the Great Depression by allowing banks to once again combine with insurance companies and brokerage houses (and took away most regulatory oversight by state banking commissions).
Likewise, Bush has presided over the largest explosion of Federal growth and influence ever. So much for small government Republicanism.
All the while, both parties argued over social agendas.
We need to get serious and somehow adress a problem festering under 5 Presidents and 3 changes in Congressional leadership. As far back as Paul Volcker, there have been periodic clandestine meetings with "power brokers" (like Walter Wriston) to address the near collapse of the financial system. Sound familiar?
We've all got some major problems to address and bickering and delaying will only make the solutions harder to come by.
bittersweet [Member] writes:
I don't think Obama is delaying or bickering.
He's said he wants a bi-partisan administration.
And he told everybody on Tuesday night that he wanted to be their president...whether you voted for him or not.
Howard Dean said on Wednesday that they are about trying to heal the country.
Obama is NOT the problem!
It's the people who want to destroy him before he even begins.
I'm sure it won't affect him, as far removed as he is, but these people can keep the divisiveness and hate going down here in the real world.
And I would like to see more Republicans like Colin Powell, who will call these people on their un-American attitudes and behavior.
The hate has been damaging, and deliberately so.
It's hard to erase. Or forgive.
ps; Second amendment is safe. Obama is not a muslim terrorist.
He's said he wants a bi-partisan administration.
And he told everybody on Tuesday night that he wanted to be their president...whether you voted for him or not.
Howard Dean said on Wednesday that they are about trying to heal the country.
Obama is NOT the problem!
It's the people who want to destroy him before he even begins.
I'm sure it won't affect him, as far removed as he is, but these people can keep the divisiveness and hate going down here in the real world.
And I would like to see more Republicans like Colin Powell, who will call these people on their un-American attitudes and behavior.
The hate has been damaging, and deliberately so.
It's hard to erase. Or forgive.
ps; Second amendment is safe. Obama is not a muslim terrorist.
Don [Member] writes:
"The hate has been damaging, and deliberately so.
It's hard to erase. Or forgive."
Let it go!
There was (and continues to be) negativism on both sides. I can't tell you how many Democratic commercials in different races (up to and icluding Obama's priceless rearview mirror ad) featured Bush's face superimposed next to a candidate's. Boy, Bush must have had a lot of close friends who always agreed with him (if you believe the voice overs).
And Rush and his ilk continue to snipe in the other direction.
The point is, I need to see evidence that we are working together, not just sanctimonious words. That would include bi-partisan appointments and a real plan (change, in and of itself, is not a plan; the Depression was a change from our previous circumstances).
So, what do you say? Let's start talking about what we would LIKE to see happen next. But I only want to hear psitive thoughts.
It's hard to erase. Or forgive."
Let it go!
There was (and continues to be) negativism on both sides. I can't tell you how many Democratic commercials in different races (up to and icluding Obama's priceless rearview mirror ad) featured Bush's face superimposed next to a candidate's. Boy, Bush must have had a lot of close friends who always agreed with him (if you believe the voice overs).
And Rush and his ilk continue to snipe in the other direction.
The point is, I need to see evidence that we are working together, not just sanctimonious words. That would include bi-partisan appointments and a real plan (change, in and of itself, is not a plan; the Depression was a change from our previous circumstances).
So, what do you say? Let's start talking about what we would LIKE to see happen next. But I only want to hear psitive thoughts.
Buzz [Member] writes:
ekzept says " It was about long term risk not being properly accounted for in prices and loan standards"
You're right. But there were warning signs including Greenspan in 2004 yes, I said 2004 "Mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could pose a threat to the country's financial system if their debt is not restrained, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said yesterday, urging Congress to consider capping the debt the two Fortune 500 companies can carry"
Did Congress, Barney Frank, Barack Obama or Chris Dodd who were receiving big contributions and had friends (and Boyfriends in Franks case) working for the agencies do anything about it? NO
You're right. But there were warning signs including Greenspan in 2004 yes, I said 2004 "Mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could pose a threat to the country's financial system if their debt is not restrained, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said yesterday, urging Congress to consider capping the debt the two Fortune 500 companies can carry"
Did Congress, Barney Frank, Barack Obama or Chris Dodd who were receiving big contributions and had friends (and Boyfriends in Franks case) working for the agencies do anything about it? NO
Democrant [Member] writes:
Don if a GOP candidate went along with the Bush program, it's fair game to make that known. The GOP could have run ads that tied various people to Bill Clinton's policies also, but ummmm, by and large, it was a time of prosperity. Bush's policies are seen as failures.
I do agree and have said here myself, there is plenty of blame to go around for the current situation. I think Obama has done the right thing in already having an economic summit and you can be sure that come 1/20/09, they will hit the ground running.
I think the GOP has other things they ought to think about, rather than knee jerk opposition. Bi-Partisanship, obviously has to be practiced by both sides. Now Emmanuel was challenged on this, this morning and he said his marching orders on this comes from the top. Hey it's hard enough to keep the Dems in line, if anyone on the Democratic side thinks this is the time to bring up this huge laundry list of things they would like, they are dreaming. Not happening.
I do agree and have said here myself, there is plenty of blame to go around for the current situation. I think Obama has done the right thing in already having an economic summit and you can be sure that come 1/20/09, they will hit the ground running.
I think the GOP has other things they ought to think about, rather than knee jerk opposition. Bi-Partisanship, obviously has to be practiced by both sides. Now Emmanuel was challenged on this, this morning and he said his marching orders on this comes from the top. Hey it's hard enough to keep the Dems in line, if anyone on the Democratic side thinks this is the time to bring up this huge laundry list of things they would like, they are dreaming. Not happening.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Oh Buzz, stop lying about what people did or did not do. And Ez's comment about where the full responsibility falls is accurate, as I've also pointed out before. Deep breath now, a lot of people screwed up. And you can leave out your homophobia also, thanks. Actually nevermind, wear it proud!
bittersweet [Member] writes:
Sorry--I refuse to let the true evil of these past eight years be swept under the rug, as if it never happened....or as if it really wasn't that bad. It was. I, for one, won't let it go....not until I'm sure it's not coming right around the corner again.
You be positive. I'll take the backside.
So, that let's me over- and- out.
You be positive. I'll take the backside.
So, that let's me over- and- out.
Monponsett [Member] writes:
If President Obama is there when ex-President Bush is hung for war crimes, the black man will have indeed officially leveled the playing field.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Dem,
Spoken like a true liberal. Go back and READ what I said and try to understand. Was Barney's boyfriend Herb Moses working for Fannied Mae? How does that make me "homophobic"? Say what you want, but DON'T suggest I'm homophobic asshole.
Spoken like a true liberal. Go back and READ what I said and try to understand. Was Barney's boyfriend Herb Moses working for Fannied Mae? How does that make me "homophobic"? Say what you want, but DON'T suggest I'm homophobic asshole.
Ned [Member] writes:
Buzz... is that supposed to be, "DON'T suggest I'm homophobic, asshole" or "DON'T suggest I'm a homophobic asshole". First person to call the other person an a-hole loses the argument.
Democrant [Member] writes:
The exact word was "Boyfriends", the statement stands on it's own, I offered my opinion as to how that came across, not to mention "Fannied". Now how do you explain that during their relationship, Frank voted in favor of increased oversight? Once again, inconvenient when facts get in the way.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Ned,
What happened in your childhood that drives your need to constantly correct people? Is it directly connected to your obsession with fat chicks?
What happened in your childhood that drives your need to constantly correct people? Is it directly connected to your obsession with fat chicks?
Ned [Member] writes:
buzz 1)my Mom taught English at Nathan Bedford Forrest(yeah the KKK founder) High School in Jacksonville for two years until Integration reared its nappy head and she bailed. She wasn't a real fun gal after that paranoid freakout. Perhaps I associate grammar-hassle with her happier days. Or perhaps the level of discourse around here just sucked and somebody had to slap you Highfivers into shape, starting with the basic building blocks of communication. 2)The fat chick thing probably started a year or so earlier, so no direct connection...
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
That was rude, buzz-is there something directly related to YOUR childhood that drives your need to constantly criticize posters instead of staying on the topic?
Ned [Member] writes:
Actually I think we're getting somewhere here... as the Little Green Footballs types lose acolytes and get winnowed down to the real True Believers, we might get a better idea of what drives them... psychoanalysis is more of a leftie discipline than a rightie one so the Drudgers would be the last ones to Know Thyself...
somebunny [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
That was rude, buzz-is there something directly related to YOUR childhood that drives your need to constantly criticize posters instead of staying on the topic?
somebunny [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
That was rude, buzz-is there something directly related to YOUR childhood that drives your need to constantly criticize posters instead of staying on the topic?
Democrant [Member] writes:
Well somebunny said it best, Buzz. It is pretty much habitual with you, and I can only go with what you actually type. Freud rears his ugly head, lol.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Ned,
I'd like to "opt" out of your class. No need to correct me anymore, I've survived quiet well all these years without you. Dem, you're a twit but I'm sure you've been told that before.
I'd like to "opt" out of your class. No need to correct me anymore, I've survived quiet well all these years without you. Dem, you're a twit but I'm sure you've been told that before.
Ned [Member] writes:
SURVIVED QUIET WELL?! Bwahaha!! we'd survive some quiet from the direction of your trollhole as well. First troll to call a blogger a twit loses the argument.
Democrant [Member] writes:
I guess twit is better than ..... nahhhh why go there. It's simple not my fault you are an inarticulate parrot.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Remember....those who can't....teach.
Democrant [Member] writes:
That's original also.....
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Twit can mean:
A British slang word for an insignificant, foolish or annoying person.
The weekly podcast This WEEK in TECH.
The TWiT podcast network TWiT.tv
The Roald Dahl children's book called The Twits
A user of Twitter
Which are you, buzz?
A British slang word for an insignificant, foolish or annoying person.
The weekly podcast This WEEK in TECH.
The TWiT podcast network TWiT.tv
The Roald Dahl children's book called The Twits
A user of Twitter
Which are you, buzz?
Buzz [Member] writes:
Remember Dem and bunny, this was all the result of my responding to a post by another blogger when Dem decided he would attack by calling me "homophobic". Was that necessary? So Dem, how original or articulate are you?
Democrant [Member] writes:
Oh far more than you, my incoherent little buddy! What you typed absolutely can be construed as such; what you meant, versus your backtracking, only you know. Putting an "s" at the end of boyfriend is certainly not a typo. Mind you the point itself was incorrect also, but that's to be expected.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Bunny, you are far more forgiving than I, it's the usual sputter whenever Buzz screws up. I'm pretty sure anyone can respond to anything on my blog, just a guess.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Not a forgiving person, no. I should have read further. shrugs.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Working overnight shift can sometimes play havoc on one's sense of reality :-)
possee [Member] writes:
Buzz
Forget the mud slinging diatribe and continue commenting with the facts..and satire..
Arguing with those on the left is futile and forever will be..as well as arguing with hard right wingers..
Never let the facts get in the way of useless arguments..although quite entertaining..sometimes..
Realizing that the feds now have control over all banking,industry, financial institutions, insurance and most probably now the car industry..they will have their ugly little hands in every facet of employment and finance..
all's that 's left is medicine and health care..
I can't wait for the mess we'll be in.... , never mind now..whew!
There's discussion amongst them of overtaking all 401's..and rolling them over to the SS fund...
Can you imagine what will happen if they dip their hands in our 401"s???
Now there's some facts to ponder on..
Just in..USPS to lay off 40,000...
Have fun
possee
Forget the mud slinging diatribe and continue commenting with the facts..and satire..
Arguing with those on the left is futile and forever will be..as well as arguing with hard right wingers..
Never let the facts get in the way of useless arguments..although quite entertaining..sometimes..
Realizing that the feds now have control over all banking,industry, financial institutions, insurance and most probably now the car industry..they will have their ugly little hands in every facet of employment and finance..
all's that 's left is medicine and health care..
I can't wait for the mess we'll be in.... , never mind now..whew!
There's discussion amongst them of overtaking all 401's..and rolling them over to the SS fund...
Can you imagine what will happen if they dip their hands in our 401"s???
Now there's some facts to ponder on..
Just in..USPS to lay off 40,000...
Have fun
possee
Democrant [Member] writes:
Poss? Wake me up when the "facts" roll in.I see from your post that random speculation without regard to accuracy is also a specialty.If you all hadn't noticed, optimism and community beat out fear this election.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Dem,
Thank you bunny and your apology is accepted. You'd think DemS (s because I'm homophobic) anger would cease after the election, apparently not.
Thank you bunny and your apology is accepted. You'd think DemS (s because I'm homophobic) anger would cease after the election, apparently not.
crusader [Member] writes:
LOL....
Buzz......"somebody had to slap you Highfivers into shape, starting with the basic building blocks of communication".
you said it Neddy...
nice to see I'm not the only one with a problem with NEGATIVE MAN BUZZZZZZ.
Buzz......"somebody had to slap you Highfivers into shape, starting with the basic building blocks of communication".
you said it Neddy...
nice to see I'm not the only one with a problem with NEGATIVE MAN BUZZZZZZ.
crusader [Member] writes:
sombunny...
Don't ever apologize to Buzz. He is the most UNDESERVING of them all!
Don't ever apologize to Buzz. He is the most UNDESERVING of them all!
crusader [Member] writes:
LOL....ain't it the truth Neddy...can't say I've seen any cowboy wanna be's going to therapy. It's usually the wife or girlfriend who goes.
"psychoanalysis is more of a leftie discipline than a rightie one so the Drudgers would be the last ones to Know Thyself"...
arrogance at it's worst..."ain't nothing wrong with me"....dialogue. Wonder how many have shouted that from the rooftops.
"psychoanalysis is more of a leftie discipline than a rightie one so the Drudgers would be the last ones to Know Thyself"...
arrogance at it's worst..."ain't nothing wrong with me"....dialogue. Wonder how many have shouted that from the rooftops.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Cru,
I'm sorry, did you have something to say sailor?
I'm sorry, did you have something to say sailor?
Buzz [Member] writes:
Ned,
"wanna be's" Bwahaha!!
"wanna be's" Bwahaha!!
Democrant [Member] writes:
Angry? Buzzy, I am in the best of spirits, even better when you "nattering nabobs of negativism" spin yourself into the ground, sputtering one inanity after another. That's good stuff! If me being angry works in the surreal world, enjoy, it sure gives me great material to work with. Remember, hope won; anger, lies and distortion lost this one.
Mmmm... can't wait til President Obama starts ringing out all those executive orders to overturn some of the Bush damage :).
Mmmm... can't wait til President Obama starts ringing out all those executive orders to overturn some of the Bush damage :).
crusader [Member] writes:
Neddy,
"Calling me a Homophobic a$$ole or homophobic...(you)....a$$hole". LoL.you are on a roll today! He can't take it only dishes it out, nice to see Dem is holding him to his hypocritic words.... Maybe buzz could watch brokeback his mountain...my class assignment for this week. Annoying "twit", I'd say! Hope shelli is still reading....lol!
"Calling me a Homophobic a$$ole or homophobic...(you)....a$$hole". LoL.you are on a roll today! He can't take it only dishes it out, nice to see Dem is holding him to his hypocritic words.... Maybe buzz could watch brokeback his mountain...my class assignment for this week. Annoying "twit", I'd say! Hope shelli is still reading....lol!
Buzz [Member] writes:
cru,
You're like a little child needing acceptance. Imagine if your real world was as fulfilling as your cyber one. Let me know if you'd like to compare successes, relationships, bank accounts, accomplishments etc. Why was it you left the Cape? Overqualified was it? Bwahaha!! (got that from Ned, love it)
You're like a little child needing acceptance. Imagine if your real world was as fulfilling as your cyber one. Let me know if you'd like to compare successes, relationships, bank accounts, accomplishments etc. Why was it you left the Cape? Overqualified was it? Bwahaha!! (got that from Ned, love it)
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,
Promotion, 3 pay raises, 2 yrs Nov. 14,w/ brilliant minds world over, on the resume will open bigger doors,people are nice, they love me cause I work hard with a smile. Employer has billions in endowments. Lot more than your useless clinics or slave factories running in the red! Bank accounts? Is that how you define success? I've seen up close what greed does to people. You got a fat bank account? Bet you got a fat gut & fat ass to go with it. We all know you are a fat meathead.
I got a soul & a heart that money can't buy. You're just pissed because I have a life & have not failed. You hate life. It shows. Go get laid, maybe you'll feel better.
I meet more healthy, successful and happy people here because they don't have to brag about their achievements to validate themselves, but you do? What are they? Time to call your friend the shrink. It is you who are the miserable child seeking attention. I get it without ever trying. LOL
Promotion, 3 pay raises, 2 yrs Nov. 14,w/ brilliant minds world over, on the resume will open bigger doors,people are nice, they love me cause I work hard with a smile. Employer has billions in endowments. Lot more than your useless clinics or slave factories running in the red! Bank accounts? Is that how you define success? I've seen up close what greed does to people. You got a fat bank account? Bet you got a fat gut & fat ass to go with it. We all know you are a fat meathead.
I got a soul & a heart that money can't buy. You're just pissed because I have a life & have not failed. You hate life. It shows. Go get laid, maybe you'll feel better.
I meet more healthy, successful and happy people here because they don't have to brag about their achievements to validate themselves, but you do? What are they? Time to call your friend the shrink. It is you who are the miserable child seeking attention. I get it without ever trying. LOL
possee [Member] writes:
The facts are the facts..politics aside
Does one surmise the great folks in DC are are on our side?
I think not..and the facts prove so..
Doesn't matter which party you subscribe to..
these power mongers are going, and are ,destroying this country..
I wish Obama well, but am dismayed by the expectations he, and the electorate, have bestowed upon him..
The real powers at at hand will manipulate the new administration as they 've done for the last 100 years..
dem or repub..
just wait and see..
perhaps only cru has a grasp of what I am commenting about..
possee
Does one surmise the great folks in DC are are on our side?
I think not..and the facts prove so..
Doesn't matter which party you subscribe to..
these power mongers are going, and are ,destroying this country..
I wish Obama well, but am dismayed by the expectations he, and the electorate, have bestowed upon him..
The real powers at at hand will manipulate the new administration as they 've done for the last 100 years..
dem or repub..
just wait and see..
perhaps only cru has a grasp of what I am commenting about..
possee
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Brokeback mountain, good movie. Wonder what kind of assignment would come out of it. Assuming you are talking about the movie. Sounds like you are bragging though, crusader, about your accomplishments. What was it you just said about that to buzz? (yawn) well, off to bed before work tonight.
Buzz [Member] writes:
cru,
Dem is signing up for anger management class. Maybe he can bring you along?
I know you say you're happy, but golly gee I just don't feel the love.
Dem is signing up for anger management class. Maybe he can bring you along?
I know you say you're happy, but golly gee I just don't feel the love.
crusader [Member] writes:
Somebunny,
Only in defense to his lies of how "unemployable" I was on cape because I refused to be mistreated by cape employers who think they can't break labor and IRS laws. I spoke out, unlike many women and men on cape that don't.
Big difference between bragging and being self assured. To bad many can't tell the difference.
If buzz is so damn happy why does he have so few friends on the blogs? He's managed to argue with just about every poster on this site. Sure he loves life.
Only in defense to his lies of how "unemployable" I was on cape because I refused to be mistreated by cape employers who think they can't break labor and IRS laws. I spoke out, unlike many women and men on cape that don't.
Big difference between bragging and being self assured. To bad many can't tell the difference.
If buzz is so damn happy why does he have so few friends on the blogs? He's managed to argue with just about every poster on this site. Sure he loves life.
Buzz [Member] writes:
What has this world come to when you have to explain yourself on a blog to someone called "Somebunny"? Bwahaha (got that from Ned, he's cleaver)
crusader [Member] writes:
Somebunny,
Assignment is to watch movie and read a few chapters of the book, and compare. We are learning how dialogue shows more about characters that narration. In the book "Jaws", part of the story is told from the acute senses of the shark as he attacks the woman at the beginning. Amazing techniques can be used in writing to create strong impact.
Only those who treat me with respect see my good side. Buzz you lost the battle years ago. You can't get to me and it's killing you! HA.
Assignment is to watch movie and read a few chapters of the book, and compare. We are learning how dialogue shows more about characters that narration. In the book "Jaws", part of the story is told from the acute senses of the shark as he attacks the woman at the beginning. Amazing techniques can be used in writing to create strong impact.
Only those who treat me with respect see my good side. Buzz you lost the battle years ago. You can't get to me and it's killing you! HA.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Watch it, BUZZ. (would that be Buzz lightyear, giving away your age? or Buzzy body getting into everyone's business? Or maybe you are hairless, now that's funny)
Suddenly I'm inclined to agree with crusader without even giving you a second look.
Suddenly I'm inclined to agree with crusader without even giving you a second look.
crusader [Member] writes:
Yes possee,
I do agree and also what Dem said about enough blame to go around. Who controls senate, house and congress? Dems over rule. They will agree on policies. Abortion and stem cell, heard tonight, Obama will overturn Bush's previous policy, hope there will be much more. We must keep the faith. We need to bring back a balanced economy & equal distribution of wealth. Restabilization of middle class is a must! Keep them in their jobs and homes. We can turn this ship around. Tax the rich.
I do agree and also what Dem said about enough blame to go around. Who controls senate, house and congress? Dems over rule. They will agree on policies. Abortion and stem cell, heard tonight, Obama will overturn Bush's previous policy, hope there will be much more. We must keep the faith. We need to bring back a balanced economy & equal distribution of wealth. Restabilization of middle class is a must! Keep them in their jobs and homes. We can turn this ship around. Tax the rich.
Buzz [Member] writes:
bunny,
Please don't take it personally. But don't ya think it's a little funny? What have we all become? Arguing, debating, comparing and sometimes agreeing with people we know as buzz, crusader, possee and somebunny?
Now get to bed.
PS Loved you in Harvey.
Please don't take it personally. But don't ya think it's a little funny? What have we all become? Arguing, debating, comparing and sometimes agreeing with people we know as buzz, crusader, possee and somebunny?
Now get to bed.
PS Loved you in Harvey.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
sorry 'Buzz' I fail to see the humor in it. Maybe past my bedtime. Had kid not informed me that I need 35 cupcakes for tomorrow I might be sleeping.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Okay Possee, batter up.
Let's see how you handle the "equal distribution of wealth"?
Cru, I'm calling a truce. Please explain the above.
Let's see how you handle the "equal distribution of wealth"?
Cru, I'm calling a truce. Please explain the above.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
PS: who's Harvey. I'd tell you what my name stands for but I'm sure you'd run, with your tail between your legs bwahahahaha.
smahkcep [Visitor] writes:
It's ok Buzz... What comes around goes around & right now it seems cruz's is on top side for the ride'in...
You like a bull with his nads zapped just when the gate opens.
Personally, time to time she does make some sense (when she backs off to the black dudes court case esp)...
Think she is actually learning to be a bit more balanced now that she is intellectually challanged @ higher ed.
So maybe... Just maybe it's time to play more like Obama & open the doors to a kinder gentler dialog...
This from one of the bigest *ickheads...
~on ocassion~.
You like a bull with his nads zapped just when the gate opens.
Personally, time to time she does make some sense (when she backs off to the black dudes court case esp)...
Think she is actually learning to be a bit more balanced now that she is intellectually challanged @ higher ed.
So maybe... Just maybe it's time to play more like Obama & open the doors to a kinder gentler dialog...
This from one of the bigest *ickheads...
~on ocassion~.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Harvey? Jimmy Stewart movie. Great flick.
Buzz [Member] writes:
All right bunny, I'm game...what's it stand for?
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Sorry Buzz, in time you will learn that but somehow you've gotten on my dark side. Its not pretty there.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Can you make 36 cupcakes? I'd sure like one.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
actually I made 48. Where do you want it. And be nice-I'm already in a foul mood.
Buzz [Member] writes:
Tomorrow, each one of those precious children will be enjoying your cupcakes with a big smile on their face. Now, doesn't that make you feel better?
PS, little Jimmies mom won't be making any damn cupcakes because he says Obama told his mommy that there's been a "redistribution of cupcake making" and all the rich folk will be making the cupcakes from now on:)
PS, little Jimmies mom won't be making any damn cupcakes because he says Obama told his mommy that there's been a "redistribution of cupcake making" and all the rich folk will be making the cupcakes from now on:)
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
I don't need to feel better. I knew your false temporary niceness was going to lead up to no where positive. Did your mom disappoint you little jimmie?
crusader [Member] writes:
somebunny,
You bring back fond memories of school bake sales. I'm one of the best cooks around. Maybe possee and I could drop by and help with an assembly line of mixing, scooping batter and multiple oven racks for fast baking....just a kind thought. Your kids will always remember. It's worth the hot stove and aching feet. Next time your in Bed and Bath, pick up the portable whirlpool. At 79 bucks it's worth it. Your aching body will thank you in the morning.
You bring back fond memories of school bake sales. I'm one of the best cooks around. Maybe possee and I could drop by and help with an assembly line of mixing, scooping batter and multiple oven racks for fast baking....just a kind thought. Your kids will always remember. It's worth the hot stove and aching feet. Next time your in Bed and Bath, pick up the portable whirlpool. At 79 bucks it's worth it. Your aching body will thank you in the morning.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
Crusader I love to bake but generally like some notice. I have a hot tub on the deck, that will be my reward later :-) They are done, just need to frost which I won't do til tomorrow AM anyways. But come on down!
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz,
What shall I attempt to explain that you will fail to agree? You want to start another round? Sure you are up for it? The rich have had a free ride for long enough. Next, they take the foreclosed homes on the market at 50% sale, soon homes will be back to their previous skyrocketing values, not the hands of the middle/lower class who were prospering for far too long with Greenspans overextented 5% interest rates that finally crashed the market. Banks are holding foreclosed homes, the rich will pay cash, the middle/lower class will rent from the wealthy slum lords, unless Obama forces a foreclosure moratorium, and loan rewrites, the balance of wealth will shift once again to those in power. Happened in the 30's right? There are thousands of millionaires, over 600 billionaires in the world. The internet has aided to the shifts of power by allowing companies to accrue wealth by outsourcing & via telecommunications they were able to cut enormous costs. Organizations don't have enough staff to tap donors, too many to count. What does that tell you? Imperialism rules the world.
What shall I attempt to explain that you will fail to agree? You want to start another round? Sure you are up for it? The rich have had a free ride for long enough. Next, they take the foreclosed homes on the market at 50% sale, soon homes will be back to their previous skyrocketing values, not the hands of the middle/lower class who were prospering for far too long with Greenspans overextented 5% interest rates that finally crashed the market. Banks are holding foreclosed homes, the rich will pay cash, the middle/lower class will rent from the wealthy slum lords, unless Obama forces a foreclosure moratorium, and loan rewrites, the balance of wealth will shift once again to those in power. Happened in the 30's right? There are thousands of millionaires, over 600 billionaires in the world. The internet has aided to the shifts of power by allowing companies to accrue wealth by outsourcing & via telecommunications they were able to cut enormous costs. Organizations don't have enough staff to tap donors, too many to count. What does that tell you? Imperialism rules the world.
crusader [Member] writes:
Thanks bunny! Pop me an email sometime.
Ned [Member] writes:
Compare the appearance of Adrian'HEROES' Pasdar in NEAR DARK from the mid80s with Jake Gyllenhaal in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN... http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/53/53_images/53neardark2shot.jpg http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Brokeback_Mountain/2005_brokeback_mountain_001.jpg
Buzz [Member] writes:
cru,
How about economists that claim too much easy money allowed those who really couldn't afford to purchase a house in the first place is what drove home prices up causing the likes of freddie and fannie and the banks to fail?
I'd like to hear your ideas for "equal distribution of wealth"? It's a common theme we've been hearing, how would it work? And are there examples of countries where it's working?
How about economists that claim too much easy money allowed those who really couldn't afford to purchase a house in the first place is what drove home prices up causing the likes of freddie and fannie and the banks to fail?
I'd like to hear your ideas for "equal distribution of wealth"? It's a common theme we've been hearing, how would it work? And are there examples of countries where it's working?
Democrant [Member] writes:
It is not a common theme. A common theme would be to restore more of a balance in the concept of progressive taxation, which is a concept that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt. I don't think there has been some huge push for an equal distribution.
possee [Member] writes:
Dem
The facts stated are true..
Fed gov now has control of banking,insurance,possibly the auto industry..
Once the govt hands you money, or loans, they call the shots at their terms..
they hold the purse strings..
And all that's left is healthcare..
Show me one program that the feds have run effectively and not at a deficit.
Repub or Dem doesn't matter..I don't trust them to run private enterprise..
They've shown no example of any expertise except taxation..
..and not excusing the miserable failure of the institutions we are bailing out either..
optimism and hope are fine words.
but reality is soon going to be a wake up call..
possee
The facts stated are true..
Fed gov now has control of banking,insurance,possibly the auto industry..
Once the govt hands you money, or loans, they call the shots at their terms..
they hold the purse strings..
And all that's left is healthcare..
Show me one program that the feds have run effectively and not at a deficit.
Repub or Dem doesn't matter..I don't trust them to run private enterprise..
They've shown no example of any expertise except taxation..
..and not excusing the miserable failure of the institutions we are bailing out either..
optimism and hope are fine words.
but reality is soon going to be a wake up call..
possee
Buzz [Member] writes:
We heard about redistribution of wealth with Joe the plumber and in a 2001 NPR interview with Obama. Now that we've established that, what are his plans to redistribute wealth?
possee [Member] writes:
Buzz
It's not your money anymore!
Kindly relinquish all assets for dispersion..
Optimism and hope will sustain you from now on..
possee
It's not your money anymore!
Kindly relinquish all assets for dispersion..
Optimism and hope will sustain you from now on..
possee
crusader [Member] writes:
Buzz
Possee is right. Learn to embrace poverty like Ghandi. The ride is not over yet until everyone but the wealthy 15% , not 1 %has it all.
Possee is right. Learn to embrace poverty like Ghandi. The ride is not over yet until everyone but the wealthy 15% , not 1 %has it all.
somebunny [Visitor] writes:
yes please pass some wealth my way. Just enough so I don't have to work 2 extra shifts every week.
Democrant [Member] writes:
Leave it to Buzz, after a year and a half campaign, 3 debates and a comprehensive website, to ask what Obama's plans are.
Possee... oh doom and gloom one.... no one is making you stay here under such duress! Let's start by getting rid of the military, man, there's a sinkhole for money, huh? And you certainly can't break even paving streets, let's get rid of that and unburden our cities and states.
Possee... oh doom and gloom one.... no one is making you stay here under such duress! Let's start by getting rid of the military, man, there's a sinkhole for money, huh? And you certainly can't break even paving streets, let's get rid of that and unburden our cities and states.
Ned [Member] writes:
possee, enough with the whining. You're a broken record.
possee [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Dem
The facts stated are true..
Fed gov now has control of banking,insurance,possibly the auto industry..
Once the govt hands you money, or loans, they call the shots at their terms..
they hold the purse strings..
And all that's left is healthcare..
Show me one program that the feds have run effectively and not at a deficit.
Repub or Dem doesn't matter..I don't trust them to run private enterprise..
They've shown no example of any expertise except taxation..
..and not excusing the miserable failure of the institutions we are bailing out either..
optimism and hope are fine words.
but reality is soon going to be a wake up call..
possee
possee [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Dem
The facts stated are true..
Fed gov now has control of banking,insurance,possibly the auto industry..
Once the govt hands you money, or loans, they call the shots at their terms..
they hold the purse strings..
And all that's left is healthcare..
Show me one program that the feds have run effectively and not at a deficit.
Repub or Dem doesn't matter..I don't trust them to run private enterprise..
They've shown no example of any expertise except taxation..
..and not excusing the miserable failure of the institutions we are bailing out either..
optimism and hope are fine words.
but reality is soon going to be a wake up call..
possee
Ned [Member] writes:
Mark Twain said, "Worry is paying interest on a debt that may never come due." Possee over and over and over you've stated now that you WANT society to collapse so your prophecies will come true and your Belief System will be validated. And then you want to sit on your porch imbibing grimly and sagely observing. Chicken or the egg? The doom excuses the drinkin'. Buddhists call it Monkey Mind. AA calls it Stinkin' Thinkin'.
smahkcep [Visitor] writes:
Not really sure Ned...
But I was under the impression it was Zig Ziglar who came up with "Stinkin' Thinkin'...
You know the motivational speaker who gets out bed in the am and starts his day with:
"It's a GREAT day to get up and go out there and GET EM!"
Good golly, it's probably been 25 years since I played his tapes...
Wonder if he's still kickin'?
But I was under the impression it was Zig Ziglar who came up with "Stinkin' Thinkin'...
You know the motivational speaker who gets out bed in the am and starts his day with:
"It's a GREAT day to get up and go out there and GET EM!"
Good golly, it's probably been 25 years since I played his tapes...
Wonder if he's still kickin'?
possee [Member] writes:
I'll stand by my facts.
To even entertain your high five gang notions is beyond the pale..for me.
I do not seek your approval nor would ever entertain an intelligent discourse.
You two espouse your beliefs wholeheartedly and without approval, or acceptance by anyone..
I do the same.
You are both broken records repeating the same demagoguery without exception..
It's obvious....
anyone who disagrees with your agenda is a fool..
My feelings exactly from my point of view..you're both hand in hand..
Keep on commenting..
Hope and promise will save you..
I'll deal with reality..
At least bitter, cru, buzz, and mav have a sense of humor, and a grip on reality, despite our differences..
thank you
Enjoy the evening.
possee
To even entertain your high five gang notions is beyond the pale..for me.
I do not seek your approval nor would ever entertain an intelligent discourse.
You two espouse your beliefs wholeheartedly and without approval, or acceptance by anyone..
I do the same.
You are both broken records repeating the same demagoguery without exception..
It's obvious....
anyone who disagrees with your agenda is a fool..
My feelings exactly from my point of view..you're both hand in hand..
Keep on commenting..
Hope and promise will save you..
I'll deal with reality..
At least bitter, cru, buzz, and mav have a sense of humor, and a grip on reality, despite our differences..
thank you
Enjoy the evening.
possee
Democrant [Member] writes:
Yawwwwn... grab a tissue for the one trick pony. The critical error... reality is a subjective state. The agenda is actually getting this country back on the right track. a track that over 80% think is off course. The agenda is restoring the country from a president that has a lower approval rating than when Nixon left office. You can sit back and whine with your silly, repetitive and wandering prose if you choose. Unless you get involved in trying to make things better, then you have nothing to whine about.
umassjsp [Member] writes:
Even the Moonbats will tell you that Bill Clinton was the worst President in the country's history. George W Bush restored the prestige in the Oval Office and he also restored America as the most feared country and military on the planet. The only good thing about Obama is that when he is done Bush will look 10 times better. WHEN YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW MOONBATS BUSH WILL STILL BE PRESIDENT.....DEAL WITH IT!!!!
Democrant [Member] writes:
I want what he's drinking.
possee [Member] writes:
..yawn..
Back at ya....
Stick around dem..it's gonna be ride for all of us..
Better fasten your seatbelt for what's to come..
And no to Ned..
The last thing I want is our society to collapse..
with the upcoming agenda..
Bush will pale (in his ineptness) as you've described..
I only laugh at the folly of the 80%..
Even that poll has its folly..
The Patriot Act will be a Girl Scout cookie sale in comparison to what's to come...
possee
Back at ya....
Stick around dem..it's gonna be ride for all of us..
Better fasten your seatbelt for what's to come..
And no to Ned..
The last thing I want is our society to collapse..
with the upcoming agenda..
Bush will pale (in his ineptness) as you've described..
I only laugh at the folly of the 80%..
Even that poll has its folly..
The Patriot Act will be a Girl Scout cookie sale in comparison to what's to come...
possee
possee [Member] writes:
I see the right wingers are out tonite as well..
Welcome aboard to the late show..
I'll abstain and let you extremists battle it out..
Is it a knock out with a left or the right?
"And in this corner...."
Where's smahkcep when you need him?
good night
possee
Welcome aboard to the late show..
I'll abstain and let you extremists battle it out..
Is it a knock out with a left or the right?
"And in this corner...."
Where's smahkcep when you need him?
good night
possee
ekzept [Member] writes:
"WHEN YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW MOONBATS BUSH WILL STILL BE PRESIDENT.....DEAL WITH IT!!!!"
Gee, I've heard that here before.
No surprise. Judging by
centerville02632-dot-blogspot-dot-com
umassjsp probably doesn't REMEMBER writing it before.
Gee, I've heard that here before.
No surprise. Judging by
centerville02632-dot-blogspot-dot-com
umassjsp probably doesn't REMEMBER writing it before.
not_rockerfellar [Member] writes:
NEW T-SHIRTS ARE OUT ON HOWIE CARR "1-20-13". WE CAN TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!!!!
possee [Member] writes:
Take it back from whom?
Howie Carr will be off the air soon..
The Fairness Doctrine will be his demise.
The end of tyranny is upon us!
All hail the great ceasar!
Howie Carr will be off the air soon..
The Fairness Doctrine will be his demise.
The end of tyranny is upon us!
All hail the great ceasar!