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11/16/09 @ 2:44 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
"As far as I'm concerned, we are no better than a wholly-owned susidiary of the State of Israel....
fighting their wars, doing their bidding, and hating their enemies."

bitter...Forget anti-semite. Maybe closet muslim?
11/16/09 @ 1:30 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
bitter...are you an anti-semite?
11/16/09 @ 1:02 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
I personally am hoping that their real goal is to get to the truth about 9/11.
Then we will truly be a gvt. for the people.
For all the people who were killed on that day, and those who continue to die for this so-called war on terror.

As far as I'm concerned, we are no better than a wholly-owned susidiary of the State of Israel....
fighting their wars, doing their bidding, and hating their enemies.
11/16/09 @ 12:48 pm
r-five [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
Peter Cohen wrote:
..."You're obviously welcome to draw your own conclusions...

The conclusion to be drawn here is, that by granting these people the rights and protections of citizens, the State is thereby tendering aid and comfort to the enemy.

By virtue of that, and other actions, the de facto government has given up any legitimate authority it may have had.

So far as I am concerned, it is no better than a government-of-occupation.

R-5
11/16/09 @ 12:44 pm
Monponsett [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
If Thomas Jefferson had access to Internet porn, we'd have an extra Right. Ol' TJ sure did love his brown sugar, and was always something of a technocrat.

11/16/09 @ 9:45 am
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)
3:08 minute, March 16 2007 version
11/16/09 @ 9:18 am
Ned [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
maverick what do you think 'keep your powder dry' means? Gunpowder. NRA members dream of a disaster in which their home-arsenal will make them kings-for-a-day and old scores can be settled.
11/16/09 @ 8:31 am
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
Exactly!
There's an anti-Muslim bias, if anything.
Big Bad Jihad--but don't look at who's doing the bombing, using depleted uranium, using white phosphorous, committing the invasions, entrapping whole people's, the killing killing killing. Not in the hundreds or thousands, but in the MILLIONS.

I do believe the Zio-Con/Christian crusades can match the horrible Muslim genocides in Africa.
All are equally appaling.
Reporting is anything but "fair and balanced".

Who are these people that are benefiting from this?
Certainly not the majority of humans on this planet...

We are sick and tired of it. You are done!
Get along, or fade into the sunset. We want peace.
11/16/09 @ 8:11 am
petercohen [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
"Words like Islamist, terrorist and war are seldom uttered."

That's an interesting fiction. Just about every news report I've read, including many from sources that more paranoid right wingers claim is liberally biased, reinforce that Hasan was a radicalized muslim, that he wanted an conscientious objection out for muslims serving in the American military, that he was in touch with a radical cleric, etc.

Yet they're also careful not to gloss over the fact that his guy has a history of questionable evaluations and that other people wanted to keep him at arm's length.

You're obviously welcome to draw your own conclusions and see it as sweeping Hasan's muslim connections under the rug, but even a casual review of coverage of this event unveils a very different take than what your opinion suggests.
11/15/09 @ 10:50 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
HA! Try saying something against Israel and see where that gets you.

This "war" is going to be over. People have had enough.
Maybe you can't see it, but it's there.
11/15/09 @ 10:34 pm
possee [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
The majority here have their prayer mats tucked away.




possee
11/15/09 @ 10:23 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
Nerd..."55% of all deaths dealt by domestic gun-owners are suicides."

How does this comment relate to Robert's post?

Christ? Mercy? Soul? Didn't Know you had religion dude.
11/15/09 @ 9:02 pm
Ned [Member]
In response to: Political Correctness and Associated Costs
55% of all deaths dealt by domestic gun-owners are suicides. At least you will be spared the six daily prayers directed at Mecca. May Christ have mercy on your soul.
11/12/09 @ 7:33 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Even curiouser...this one is really wild!

BARACK OBAMA FACES VETERANS’ DAY DEADLINE TO COMPLY
OR CHINA CAN EXERCISE ITS WORLD COURT LIEN ON THE U.S. TREASURY
Saturday 7 November 2009 04:30

but from it:
"Citizens for Legitimate Government report that a retired military source has emailed them as follows: 'I spent 10 years at Ft. Hood. There is no way this 'official' story is legitimate. No way would a room full of combat vets allow this one shooter to get off over 100 rounds. And, it is not normal for the outside security guards to be there. They are at the MP station, and also at the main gates. This means the room full of soldiers processing must have been pinned down; multiple shooters is the only plausible scenario. This sounds like MAJ Hasan has been used, and perhaps is a patsy'."

ok done for real now, but how can anyone not question this?
11/12/09 @ 7:06 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Excellent article:

"Fort Hood Mystery"

by Michael Gaddy

****
Found on Lew Rockwell.com...who is a conservative Libertarian.

11/12/09 @ 6:43 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Oh thank you maverick...that was worth all the bad words we've ever had.

as for you ms. mutt-bunny;
"the New York Times finally underlined what some of us noticed from nearly the start: the media fell hook, line and sinker once again for a military account of what happened during the tragedy.

First, it was the "death" of Major Hasan, not corrected for many hours. Then, for days, the story of how a white female cop brought down the shooter, even as she was receiving serious wounds. Yet I noticed just hours after the attack that scattered eyewitnesses, via the Web and Twitter, were saying that the killer re-loaded after Kimberly Munley went down.

How could he have done that if she had just plugged him four times, supposedly ending the rampage?"

it's not just rense.com missy-
It's anybody who has a sense of --"Wait a minute! Something doesn't add up here."
11/12/09 @ 6:39 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bitter..."How do YOU feel about the Arab children and moms and dads brothers and sister aunts and uncles dying for this "war"?"

I feel Terrible! Most are innocent victims whether they be Arabic, Jewish, European or American. The whole thing is sick and a premeditated wrong perpetrated on society by those that lust for power and wealth. And most Americans fall in that category.
11/12/09 @ 6:38 pm
margebunny21 [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bittersweet [Member] writes:
Dear Mutt:

You are basing your comments on the assumption that they actually have the Ft. Hood shooter.


You ARE BASING your comment -most of them-
on the assumption that you really know
what is going on in this world after you
click from site-to-site reading all this
self-authorized conspiracy theory nonsense, some of which could even be written by kids and you would'nt know it.

I do not ASSUME they have the Fort Hill shooter,
I ACCEPT the information that has been presented
by the accredited authorities, and not by jeffrense.com (he was one of the first ones that did'nt post links to other sites) or Billy-Bob's Free Apocalypse Forcast, or any of these nonsense websites that take one rumour, build upon it, re-mutate it, and sell it to naive persons.

I just noticed:

Bitter wrote:
"What would that be like? Like someone who likes porno-pics?? at 5 in the morning??"

Are you on drugs?

You ARE a whack job!
11/12/09 @ 6:28 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
"somebody like that"

What would that be like? Like someone who likes porno-pics?? at 5 in the morning??
is the sticky-radar working?

buzz---Before he was on a respirator and in a coma, he was DEAD!!!

Let's face it, when they lie about one thing, you can't trust them on anything.
Don't you agree?
And what about those deaths in Seattle? Shot point-blank. Tragic. And ignored by you.
11/12/09 @ 6:20 pm
margebunny21 [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
"No go eat some grass little mutt-bunny."


God, I just love it
when somebody like that
screws up the punch line.....
11/12/09 @ 6:00 pm
Buzz [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bitter,

Last week he was on a respirator and in a coma. Wouldn't that have been the time to do it? Your comments are quite disturbing. But, we're use to it.
11/12/09 @ 5:43 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Dear Mutt:

You are basing your comments on the assumption that they actually have the Ft. Hood shooter.

Apparently, you only watch the MSM.
And apparently, you don't really think things through...

Take it all at face value--even now grasshopper?
Have you learned nothing from the past eight years?

One thing I do agree with you though...he will be killed..ala Jack Ruby.

Or would that be just too obvious, even for the mush-brained commentators?

Do some research Muttley...Virginia Tech/ MK Ultra....

And remember, some people STILL believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11!!!

No go eat some grass little mutt-bunny.
11/12/09 @ 5:21 pm
margebunny21 [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Dear Bitterbrain:

Reading your comments, I have come to the conclusion that you
actually are taking the side of the Ft Hood shooter.
This has destroyed any potential for
credibility that you may have had now
or in the future.
Are you insane?

You should be on Jerry Springer with Cru.

I'm betting that the shooter will be put to death, with my heartfelt approval.

The sad part is:
He will no longer be eligible for the U.S. census.

I hope Pee-Wee herman escorts him to the
death chamber and says
"Time to go croakey-wokey."
I'll film the whole thing in IMAX and you can watch it.


Go sprinkle that on your Corn Flakes, Bitterbrain.
11/12/09 @ 5:03 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
How do I feel? I'm sick of seeing it. I'm sick of nice sweet kids dying, and seeing the pain and grief of their families.
I'm sick of moms and dads and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles dying.And that goes for the ones on the other side as well....which btw are astronomical compared to ours. How do you think I feel?
How do YOU feel about the Arab children and moms and dads brothers and sister aunts and uncles dying for this "war"?
And while we're on the subject..what about those two people who were shot in Seattle? What about them? Don't their deaths matter?
Or do you make this all political?

But don't worry...I won't count on you to care about getting the truth. You'll just take everything they tell you at face value.
And I do feel bad for this guy...I don't believe he did what they say, but I do believe they can prove that he did.

11/12/09 @ 3:09 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bitter is a closet muslim...just hasn't come out yet.
11/12/09 @ 2:34 pm
Buzz [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bitter sadly says: "and I feel bad for this guy (the Fort Hood shooter)"

Tell us, how do you feel for the 13 families of the dead victims or the injured?
11/12/09 @ 8:38 am
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
You see!!! This is from nov 5:

"The largest Military installation in the world is on lockdown…Fox news is reporting at least two shooters, another one possibly on the loose.

One shooter is in custody, one is surrounded, and another one was reportedly still shooting as of a few minutes ago. The only description of the shooters is that they’re wearing fatigues."

What happened to that story? What about those shooters? When did it change to "one lone shooter", which btw...sound familiar??

well, i'm done...but g-d it. again with the "pretend we never told you what we told you." "pretend you never saw what you saw."
11/12/09 @ 8:29 am
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Right...that's why I don't buy this "story" and I feel bad for this guy...another patsy fried on the spit for the powers that be.

There's a kind of sick web-sit out there that is taking bets...will he be "suicided', or die "unexpectedly".

This war really needs to end.
11/12/09 @ 8:09 am
possee [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
bitter
Some food for thought.

From: CONSPIRATORS' HIERARCHY: THE COMMITTEE OF 300 by Dr. John Coleman
1. To establish a One World Government/New World Order with a unified church and monetary system under their direction. The One World Government began to set up its church in the 1920:s and 30:s,for they realized the need for a religious belief inherent in mankind must have an outlet and,therefore,set up a "church" body to channel that belief in the direction they desired.
2.To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride,which was a primary consideration if the concept of a One World Government was to work.
Perhaps the most startling admission of the existence of the super-secret organization came from President Wilson in the last days of his presidency:
"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody.
They know that there is a power somewhere, so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they spe
11/12/09 @ 6:44 am
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
So "They" say. If you believe "Them".

Still WAY too fishy for me to believe.
In fact,one guy said he thought there were 3-5 service members who all were refusing to deploy, and shot up the place. Doctor got caught in the cross-fire, "they" thought he was dead,and "they" said-"Hey, here's a muslim we can blame it on"..(fits the agenda of the big bad boogey-man terrorist) because "they" wouldn't want to admit there's a mutiny going on against this "war". You know how we Americans always need to be shielded from the truth.Plus, I noticed something very strange at that memorial service...anytime someone was breaking down in grief,soldiers would come and lead them away. Why not let them stand there and grieve?
Anyway,

"Conflicting Reports on Fort Hood Shootings
Various – November 6, 2009"

That's the article...read it or don't. We all know by now, it's swimming up-stream to chink into that big wall that is official perception.
Sometimes they are really asking us to believe that black is white and down is up.
"They" can't be trusted. We must always question!
Treachery knows no bounds.
11/12/09 @ 5:53 am
r-five [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Ned:
Military service is a fast-track to citizenship for Muslims willing to serve. Nidal Hasan however was born in Virginia

R5
Yes--it appears that the strictures of his religious/ideological beliefs ended up trumping his primary and secondary education, as well as his training as a psychiatrist and a soldier.

A lifetime of opportunity for assimilation was over-ridden by belief.

R5
11/11/09 @ 7:25 pm
karent2 [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Ann Margaret? She said that?

Not even close. Well, maybe because she too is female. But after that, the two go seperate ways.

But again, good job on the slaying. Seems conversations have been on the side of decency lately.
11/11/09 @ 3:05 pm
maverick [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
"And if she looks like Ann-Margaret, i'm Jayne Mansfield..."

WB and I would love to meet the duo for a beverage at Brax Landing. If WB is occupied I will entertain you both.
11/11/09 @ 2:49 pm
margebunny21 [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
karent2 [Member] writes:
I would also like to applaud margebunny for having slayed the beast.


Why, Thank You Karen!!

I must say though-- the beast in question still lurks.

It's waiting to slander, deride, abuse, and bore.

And if she looks like Ann-Margaret, i'm Jayne Mansfield...
11/11/09 @ 9:32 am
Ned [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Military service is a fast-track to citizenship for Muslims willing to serve. Nidal Hasan however was born in Virginia.
11/11/09 @ 8:49 am
r-five [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Ned wrote (in part):
it's nuts to force Muslim-American soldiers to deploy to the Middle East against their will

R5
Agreed.

A good argument can be made that Muslim-American military personnel in general ought to be offered a special option of honorable discharge.

R5
11/11/09 @ 12:21 am
Ned [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Rumsfeld's original name for the Afghanistan invasion was "Infinite Justice", quickly changed to "Enduring Freedom" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1563722.stm because for Muslims Allah is the judge of "infinite justice"... the same week that Dubya said, "This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a while." Again, it's nuts to force Muslim-American soldiers to deploy to the Middle East against their will. If this wasn't designed as a Psy-Op it certainly worked out that way.
11/10/09 @ 11:35 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
I think it's more basic than that. And more ancient.
After the whole apple incident under the tree, God said to the woman and the serpent: "I will put enmity between you."
It's as simple as that. Some people are just of a different make-up, and can never get along. In fact, they make each other's skin crawl.
And Fox news and talk-radio is like the guide-stone for me. Anyone who listens to them and takes them seriously has enmity with me.
They make my skin crawl.

11/10/09 @ 10:23 pm
Peter Walker [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
Zippy asks: “You think the massacre in Gaza was justified, don't you?”

Walker replies: Have I ever said that? When and where did you ever hear me say that? Certainly a moonbat with your credentials wouldn’t’ make something like that up out of thin air, just because you have no reply.
(Using third person as to not confuse the child, I am Walker and Jack is maverick)

Incidently, MFF means only one thing to me, and I don’t need a salute, just 8 hours of serious wood.

By the way this thread was modeled after the Truman Show and we're all just sitting around the control room screwing with you.
11/10/09 @ 9:59 pm
bittersweet [Member]
In response to: Urban Legends and the Harm They Do
GUNS GALORE??? And you call ME Walmart?
The thing of it is..he graduated from Virginia Tech. Do a little research of the non-MSM type on that one..And if the reports are to be believed,he also was involved in some MK Ultra type stuff at Ft. Hood. So,to me that rings some major bells..at the gates of Hell,that is. But you see,that's the kind of stuff that is all done in secret. Our money,granted, but they are not accountable to us...why even the thought of that makes me un-American doesn't it?
And Walker, Walker...now you've done it. You think the massacre in Gaza was justified,don't you? And when that guy warns about another little holocaust on Gaza--that makes you all tingly inside, doesn't it?
Hasbara--there's a yiddish word for you.
And a big MFF salute to you too.
Buzz--I'm not paranoid, I just don't trust anything.
Especially if it comes from the right. And who is saying he is a muslim/stripper-goer/involved in 9/11/islamic-jihad etc ? Need I say it?
There's more than one side to this story,and granted, I haven't watched or read the "official" version yet.
Eyes wide open people!

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