CapeCodToday Blog Chowder

Jack Coleman and CCToday
This was not a debate and you full well know/knew it. It has been nothing more than vulturous jealousy and unabashed hatred in which CCToday has fully participated.
wamptruth, curiouswamp, D-man, B-sweet, Muwin, twg, wamp-pride, quahog;
This crew at CCToday is a pack of vipers and has predetermined ideas as to what mashpees do and do not deserve and have most probably used Peter as well. i am truly sorry that i cannot continue to comment here. The fact is that any good information placed here could potentially be used against my People. Placing one's weety8 in enemy camp can often be useful in determining just who the enemy really is. i am willing to have an honest and open discussion with any one of you but not in this venue. There is now a concerted effort to prevent us from placing any property that we hold, or have purchased, into federal trust. The article written by Lynch is a fishing expedition and the 'racial purity' slings are the red herring. Good luck to all of you and keep your families safe and loved.
jessie little doe

i knew it! i couldn't sleep and my little voice said, 'check this guy out'. This Lynch is a hired gun as you will read below. The questions are: who hired him and is CCToday aware of that?
'James Patrick Lynch: FREELANCE historian testifies against Indians in Casino land dispute'
source: Newsday (12-4-06)

A Connecticut historian who has refuted American Indian land claims across the country testified Monday in federal court that the Shinnecock Nation has no right to build on a parcel of land in Southampton that the tribe is eyeing for a casino.

i'll continue the info. CC Rockhopper but just wanted the public to see what we are really dealing with here.

i'm going my mashpee ass to bed. i need sleep to deal with this crap day in and day out. And people wonder why we can't just 'get over it'; as soon as we do or figure out how to; some son of a b*** finds another way to try and keep us down. If people could get their psychological sh** together, they wouldn't need someone to constantly stamped their dirty feet upon to creat an illusion of self worth.

Nearly all of the information above is so flawed and slanted that i am going to work on it again some more tomorrow. Massasoit is a title, not a proper name. He was not a sachem; that is a leader of a tribe. He was a muhsâs8ut 'Massasoit'; head of a Nation. That Nation included the area of pokanoket. i know one damned thing; somebody is paying mr. Lynch for this crap and whoever it is had better get their damned money back.

OKAY kids
The 50 mile radius of connection to homeland is taken by the Federal F*** Gov. to mean 50 miles radius of Mashpee. But the aboriginal territory is within all of the above stated boundaries which is easily deliniated by several different languages belonging to several different NATIONS; Wampanoag, Nipmuc, Narragansett. These are all entirely different languages, and not merely dialects of the same. Mashpee has a historic tie to ALL places within the original boundaries; as does Aquinnah.
And keep your fur on Muwin! i'll get to it but i'm not about to do something half-a**ed. This may be lively debate to some, but this is our kids lives we are fighting for..over, and over, and over.

Jack
i have seen very good work done by Non-natives in regard to Native history and culture.

Damn! this is a pain in the a**! i am so f**** tired of having to explain every friggin thing to people who are supposed to understand how to read and refuse to pick up a f*** book! i am sick to death of wannabees!, sick to death of f**** racists and sick to death of trying to raise my kids with cultural backbone so they can deal with the bullsh*** when they grow up!!
We asked NO ONE to come here! We forced no one to live as we say fit. And no, maybe you were not here to participate in trying to wipe our a**es out; but you sure as hell still benefit from your upline's doings. i need a break.

Jack
i was not referring to your lack of training but mr. Lynch's. It was he who wrote such a piece of m8ee, 'sh**'.

The reason for the variation in spelling found in the Native written docs is the fact that there was no standardized orthographic system or dictionary available during the time period; not for Wamp or English. One item can easily be found with 20 different spellings.
wamp-ano-ag
'wamp' wôp-, 'original, east'
'ano' -anâ-, 'be a certain way or manner'
'og' -ak animate plural marker (more than one animate being)

Wôpanâak, 'People of the East' OR 'original People'
This term is cognate with
Wabanaki : In this language there is voicing on the bilabial; so you get 'b' instead of 'p' as in Wôp. Wabanaki also retains final -i; where Wôp language drops it.
Abanaki; this language drops the initial W- retained by Wabanaki and Wôpanâôt8âôk and also retains final -i
Oh, by the way, bound morphemes (suffixes as he says, but they are not always suffixes) for water or near water are: -pâq or -tuk. The unbound (or whole words are:
seep, river
kutah, ocean
nupusupâq, pond
seep8ees, brook

No damned -aug or -oag.

The stem, which is what you meant by root, is Wa:p-. and not wa:panwi. The second item there is a complete verb phrase and refers to inanimates.
The sound changes from PA to Wôpanâôt8âôk (wampanog language) yield Wôp-. While this stem is found in the verb phrase for 'east'; it is also found in other verb stems such as:
wôpashq, 'young meadow' (inanimate noun)
wôpeekuhshây, 'it (inanimate) is pale'
wôpeeqaw, 'concieve (a child)' Transitive verb
wôpeeqawu-, 'be pregnant' Animate verb
wôpanâyu-, 'east'
So while it may refer to 'East', it is used for 'East' because the stem means 'originate', 'begin'.
The next erroneous statement:
The suffix -oag, -aug, means 'near a body of water'
Again; WRONG. What you have here is -o- that actually belongs the verb stem and -ag which represents the animate plural marker. You must have been out on the grassy knowll smoking dope during your Algonquian linguistics 101. OH RIGHT! you have no training.
It will be a hell of a lot easier just to list the morphemes in 'Wampanoag' and explain them in the next comment.

"the term wampanoag is a general linguistic descriptor';
Where the hell did you read that? "its term lies in the Algonquian root wa.panwi' meaning 'it dawns or easterner' WRONG as to where the 'root' as you so ineptly put it, comes from and WRONG as to it meaning 'easterner'.
'wa.panwi' is from Proto-Algonquian; often called PA. PA is the mother from whence over 33 languages come. Algonquian is the term for the language family. wa:panwi, 'it (INANIMATE) dawns'. The entire world for these languages in the family is divided across two major genders. Those genders are ANIMATE AND INANIMATE. Every verb in the language must show agreement with the subject. For example; if i say 'It is red' and i am speaking of a bird; and 'it is red' and i am speaking of a chair, then the verb phrase 'it is red' will be different in each case since the bird is animate and the chair is not. So; the phrase wa:panwi can not refer both to the dawn and an easterner since the dawn is inanimate and person is not.

Firstly Mr. Lynch,
"Historically there was never a Wampanoag Tribe".
This statement shows an utter and complete lack of understanding between 'Nation' and 'tribe'. The map shown of 'sub-tribes' further underscores a lack of research on your part. Wampanoag is a NATION not a tribe. There is a difference. There were originally 69 tribes within the Wampanoag Nation. The map shown here is but one of at least five that i have seen. One MUST look at all available maps since the map makers' works cross a span of two centuries. NONE OF THE MAPS ACCOUNT FOR ALL TRIBES. Overlayed and cross referenced with linguistic data; all communities are more accurately accounted for. The Wampanoag Nation territory during the 17th century was bounded by: current day Cape Anne to the North; Southwest to current day Dudley; Southeast to the Blackstone River in East Providence; South to Narragansett Bay. That is the Nation. Mashpee is but one tribe.

i think i will make one statement of each incorrect fact first and then take each statement in its turn with factual information. This way it will be easier for the reader to digest. i have also been working with the National Museum of the American Indian on a historic timeline for Mashpee and some of that data will prove helpful. i appreciate all Good Medicine at this time. The time has come for me, as a woman, mother, and defender of my People, to stop playing politely. This article is, for better or worse, the end of my patience and i suppose that i should thank Mr. Lynch; but really i just want to ask his mother why she was sleeping on the job. There are times when good manners are in order and a time to replace manners with Medicine; be it savory or sour.

Editor(s)
Exactly how many times may i post concurrently. There is so much bad information, not to mention lack of training and proper research, that i will have to take this post, piece by piece, and take it apart for proper dissemination. The most efficient way is to construct in a separate document and paste here given the 1100 stroke maximum.

Exactly how many times may i post, concurrently, without being placed in timeout?

Wôy numanut8m!!! peesh nupôhp nashpee y8 pâsuq
kaweet nuneechôn!! Peesh kunâunumuw akôsahqôpay8ôkanut!
oh my ever-lovin Creator!!! Boy am i gonna have a ball with this one when the baby goes to sleep!!!
See you all in a little bit!
See

Curiouswamp
The editor's comment was the ultimate goal of one (masquerading as two) commenters. If you would like to continue our discussion; perhaps it is time or do you feel that we have already done this sufficiently? You know how to reach me.

flargh,
i doubt you look a thing like any citizen of this tribe. Now be a nice boy. Haven't you got a computer or game to play with or some article or other that can amuse you for the rest of the evening?

coloredguy....umm, i think not.
Mashpees were actually beginning to have a conversation of substance and then curiously there are commenter(s) new to the scene and even more curiously; attempt to end any real conversation of substance. It hasn't gone unnoticed. i do not want to see one more second of suffering by anyone in this tribe for lack of the ability to speak openly to what we are facing and i am hopeful that this conversation can contine even if it is not in this venue.

blogspotter
thought so

blogspotter
testy, testy. Someone needs to row ashore for a nap. Lighten up! Haven't you ever blogged before?

curiouswamp
Are you speaking about shunning or disenrollment? i have seen absolutely no evidence in any articles pertaining to shunning being used as a tool by casino investors. i have seen plenty of articles pertaining to disenrollment used this way and i agree with you; it is absolutely vile.

i did not say that the Binghams belong in prison. In fact, i sent a letter to our council stating that a seven year shunning was harsh. i was answering the question about whether shunning was medievil and did not speak to the issue of any Mashpee specifically. Incidentally; while i realize that the posts have asserted that those filing the law suit were shunned for having a dissenting opinion; this is not the case and folks should read the complaint as it was filed. Were we shunning each other for dissenting opinion; i would have been shunned a long time ago. At least one person was shunned and did not sign the complaint but had written to a local paper that she was directly involved with that action against the tribe. All that being said; i do not believe that the council had/has authority to shun anyone. i have been open in that position as well.
As to the the 'simply american' comment; you have an absolute right to that opinion/thought. i do not share that opinion/thought as my People had no say in the matter. We were made citizens of the US against our will.

blogspotter,
there is a different word for 'shunning' on our language. It is not contained within our constitution. It is actually older than medievil. We did not have prisons or jails here prior to contact with non-Natives. 'Shunning' relieved tribal communities of having to form prisons. Naturally, there is always the problem of anti-social behavior within societies. Native societies are no different in their needs to ensure the safe and orderly progression of community.
Muwin,
NARF is the Native American Rights Fund. This is a non-profit organization that is used by tribes for legal assistance, across the country, when the necessary funds for legal help are unavailable. i have been very disillusioned with them, in regard to the work done here with my tribe, to say the least.

Wamp-pride,
You are absolutely correct. Shunning does not effect anyone other than the individual that is shunned. We do have provision for any person wishing to disenroll his/herself but it does, unfortunately, effect the downline of that person. Maybe we need to really look at that. i have had no end of frustration with that constitution from the time the constitution committee began to meet with NARF, toward its formation, to this day.

oops Muwin,
Forgot to answer your question in regard to motives of any person making statements of filing land suits; i'm sorry i cannot answer that with anything but conjecture and that is where i draw the line in posting comments. i have absolutely no idea what the heck these folks are thinking. i only know that the tribe has nothing to do with any goings on in regard to land suits. i can only hope that any attorney would have the presence of mind to advise them of the futility of purpose.

Muwin
Honestly it is very frustrating to read some of Peter's posts and look at how confused and mis-stated so many of the issues appear in these posts. One could spend, and would need to spend, many hours just sorting out the confusion and mis-informtion before an honest dialogue could take place. i realize that Peter is most likely priniting what he is told and not fabricating information but the end result is the same; too much effort to bring him up to speed on each issue each time.

CCToday,
As to threatening to place individuals in 'time out'; i agree with blogcensorship, Muwin, Wamp-pride, quahog, and twg. Foul! Even though some of the commenters are placing abhorrant comments and comments having their origins in racial hatred; we need the world to see what we have been dealing with for so long. As long as a commenter is not threatening physical violence, they should not be threatened with 'Blog disenrollment'.

In the case of another nearby Nation; a person that has been deceased for nearly 80 years was disenrolled and this effectively removed 224 individuals (an entire clan) from that Nation's roll. This Nation (of which i speak) also has the requirement of lineal descent.

quahog
It really, definitely does effect a person's entire downline. We must follow our enrollment requirements as set forth to the BIA. This means that each citizen accounted for on the roll must tie, lineally, to a parent(s) above him/her. Beginning with the 1859 Earl Report; each successive generation ties to that predetermined census that we chose. This has been the case since the change from by-laws to constitution. Leaving aside the question of dis-enrollment for a second; here is an example of that law that has already had an effect on someone. A person arrived during the last election to vote only to find that his father had refused to submitt his birth cert. or fill out any of the ancestry forms required by OFA. Hence he could not remain on the role since there was no direct person above him to tie him to the census. After several weeks of cajoling; his father relented and filled out the forms. This man's children were allowed to vote and remain on the roll because their mother was an active citizen with all required docs in place.

quahog,
You are angry and frustrated with behavior and i get that and you are not alone. But i know my People and no matter who you are, i know that if you were raised here, with social interaction during your formative years, you really don't mean that. Removing one person removes all of the generations to come after that person. We are not the type of People to punish the children for the Parents and/or Grandparents behavior or the many generations of those yet to be born. You are absolutely right in saying that there are tribes doing this all over the country. But we both know that Mashpee has always been a good example for the rest of the region and has a reputation across NDN country for doing things in a good way. This is thanks to those Mashpees who have supported and worked with tribes across the continent. Just like we are not collectively responsible for the individual behavior of any tribal citizen; innocent Mashpee Wamps should never be punished for the behavior of others.

caperanger,
'mashpee' is not a new word although it is an English corruption of mâseepee; the name of this place for thousands of years. You tried it on and it didn't fit because it's not yours. It belongs to, and only refers to, those individuals indigenous to mâseepee and none others. When we (NDNs) refer to each other, in specificity, we use terms such as: Mashpees, Aquinnahs, etc. It denotes designation of specific tribe within the historic Wampanoag Nation. Wampanoag as Nation and Mashpee as tribe. There were 69 tribes within the Wampanoag Nation at the beginning of European immigration here. Hope this bit of info. helped.

flargh,
All of your agentive noun designations (-ite, -an, -in) are also flawed. You are absolutely right. numâseepeem, 'i am a mashpee'; mâseepeewak, 'mashpees'

If there are Mashpees that were on the roll and then removed; i have a MAJOR, HUGE problem with this. i don't care who that person is. i do not know whether this has happened or not. i do know that it is happening across Indian country and removing a person from a roll is a crime of epic proportions since removing one person removes all the generation after that person.

i would answer NOT if i were asked whether my family's names and addresses could be released since i do not have any assurance that my family's names and addresses would be used for one sole purpose and then destroyed. i get enough junk mail as it is.

Just some things folks may not have considered:
1. The US census of United States citizens is not released to the public as a readable document until 70 years after the census is taken. This is for a host of reasons; all pertaining to a family's right to privacy.
2. Unless i authorize the release of any of my personal information; the BIA forbids that information to be released
3. There are parents that have to make a choice as to which roll to place their children when the child is from two different tribes. You may only choose one roll for your child and that is a personal decision for the parents and no one else's business.
4. We do not know whether any of those individuals not on the roll have been informed of such or not.

5. Once any tribe even hints at their plan for a casino many of their tribal citizens are exploited. The last thing we need is people trolling for victims for possible financial gain of the troll-er.

Josh
Also visit the Mashpee Archives. i believe they have a copy of 'The condition of the Indians in Massachusetts' 1749? Very enlightening read. i really can not remember the titles of every historical doc. i read over the years but certainly if i can find them anyone can. Also you may want to ask the Mashpee Archives for a copy of the 'Parish Reports'. Much of the history is contained within them as well. i probably have most of these docs. floating round the house in one pile of papers or another. i also lend a lot of things out to other Mashpees interested in study and i don't get them back. That's my fault though since i can not remember who i gave something to but can remember print on a page that i read 30 years ago...very odd, but sometime helpful gift.

Josh
The laws that were enacted to protect the tribe were just laws on paper. They were consistently broken. Again, i recommend starting at senate house hearing #502 (1833). This document is at Mass Historical Arichives. You can also ask for all documents pertaining to Mashpee and Aquinnah and do the research. You may also find it helpful to order a copy of Native Writings in Massachusett, Goddard and Bragdon 1988. There you will also find letters of complaint to the State by both tribes in regard to the systematic abuses by overseeers and dispossession of land. The docs. are written in Wôp, but have English translations overleaf. One letter to the State as far back as the mid 1700s, written by Aquinnah Wamps, details how many women and children died in that previous year due to starvation because the overseeers were leasing out Wamp lands and dividing the prophets amongst themselves. i think the first proclamation barring Whites from Mashpee for these sorts of behaviors was in 1775

Deltaman,
Well i am going to go to bed and look at the news; the only thing that seems to make me blush anymore....well beside embarrassing moments on the Pow wow field. But that's a story for another day.

Goodness Deltaman. Rule no. 1. Never let on to Mashpee women that you blush easily...or at all. Should you ever come here, they will give you no Peace!!

Josh,
The tribe actually voted down becoming US citizens on two seperate occasions; the second occasion being in 1869 yet the State made our families US citizens anyway and incorporated the town in 1870. This was also done to Aquinnah Wamps during the same exact year. Without the State having done this the land could not be seperated from the tribe as a whole and taxed and then taken for non-payment of that tax. These actions, by the State, were a violation of the federal Trade and Non-Intercourse Act of 1790 (i beleive this is the year). This is still good law today and basically says that no entity may disposess a tribe of its' commonly held land in any fashion without first applying to Congress.

wampcardinwallet,
i think the tribe should find every single Mashpee Wamp who hopped out of their cradles, in the hospital and at home, who listed themselves as anything other than Wamp on their birth certs. and take 'em to Jordin!

Deltaman
approbation: the approval or consent of something. By all means i am absolutely, morally obliged to you for that whenever i use your language; your birthright, your People's Medicine and would be honored to have any correction in that regard. As to scholastic turpitude; yeah right, try again. Scholarly learning lives on a continuum whereby compassion, imho, is the only paradigm by which to seek knowledge; Hence, you have become a master teacher. i think we all get there eventually. At least this is the ultimate goal even if we forget that with each trip here.

D-man
okay here goes. And put me soundly in my place when i err so i can learn something. i should say, however, that i picked another verb; the one meaning 'brave, be' so your dictionary wasn't necessarily sending you in the wrong direction.
kinahantuwic, 'be brave! (you singular)'
kinahantuwiq, 'be brave (you plural, y'all)'
kinahantuwihtuc, 'let's be brave!'

a star on the forhead or a thumpin??? either is sometime helpful.

Deltaôp

maybe, 'kinahantuwin' or 'kinahantuwian'? i am not a maliseet or quoddy speaker so i am not entirely sure of the imperative marker for Animate intransitive verbs. i think i'll go and read up on that some since my little one is down to sleep.

Susan
Thanks for the clarification. Having a conversation via non-verbal medium is always so difficult. i was referring to 'i found the ancestry info on YOUR application'; i took this to mean Mashpee, and you meant any tribe's application. The next comedy of error was my reading of your statement, 'i was reading about GM and his Cape Verde past', and took this to mean that you had read something to that effect in our application documents. my only goal here is to have an affect on information being disseminated in a factual way whenever i actually know the facts. No offense taken and i hope none given.

Susan
i don't know what you were reading but each person on our roll has six pieces of documention accomanying their ancestral history. The feds do not just take 'membership status' without proof. If they did, then tribes could easily add any number of heads to their rolls and therefor receive more benefits since most fed. benefits applied for by fed. rec. tribes are based upon the number of individuals on the tribal roll. The federal govt. wants to make darned sure they are not giving any tribe one more red cent that actually necessary and required by fed. law. As to individual tribal citizen's ancestry charts: i don't know what you mean since those charts are each person's personal information and not included in the finding but must be obtained by filing a FOI request. There are not ancestry charts for any of us that have been posted up on the web.

To Readers:
If you really want some accurate information about the tribe and its history; you can go to Indianz.com to find a summary of the findings in regard to our petition. The actual appliction and accompanying documentation can be obtained by filing a FOI request. But be warned that the documentationis actually over 54,000 pages!! Yikes! The summary of findings is only 187 pages and may answer some cultural questions. One of the problems with sharing cultural info has been that non-Wamps actually have exploited what was shared in any number of ways so many Wamps are now hesitant to share.

Re: enrollment requirements:
every single person on the roll MUST and DOES tie, lineally, to one of their ancestors on the 1859 Earl Report. This is a census of the Mashpees living home that same year. If anyone thinks that there is a single person on the roll is not Wamp, they are absolutely misinformed. Further, each individual's genealogy is checked and confirmed by the Office of Federal Acknowledgement during the application process for Federal Acknowledgement of the tribes' respective governments. Whichever of my folks are giving Peter false, and outrageous, cultural information, please stop that. While many tribal folks have been reading these bits of misinformation and laughing their butts off at Peter's expense; it is really not helpful to the public's knowledge about the community; hence not helpful to community.

i can be of no further help in these discussions. When we talk about 'Eastern' and 'Western' we are actually talking about Peoples. Inevitably it turns out that 'Western' does not really mean the indigenous Peoples on this continent. i am disappointed that this happened so quickly in the conversation. my appreciation for dagny's honesty since it snapped me back into reality. Inevitably it is always the position taken by Non-natives that 'If we didn't try to crush you, someone else would have and we are the lesser of all evils so just keep that in mind and you'll feel better about your situation'
Reserving any small help i can be to humanity for my own People. At minumum, i will be discussing issues from a common place of our understanding in regard to our privileges and responsibilities while on this Earth. i guess i was really buying into John's attempt at teaching when he wrote 'Imagine'.

Muwin
i may not be so 'far away'. i could be in more than one place at any given time and at the same time.....some of us carry that Medicine too.
;)

Muwin
Careful what you ask for. my computer shut down on me earlier!!! One person's help can sometime end up being another's pain in the &*^

What if hate and anger and conflict are all just symptoms of the real monster within..'fear'. What if peace and justice are just the by-products of the real power within..'Love'? No answer required really. This is just something to think about and consider now and again.

twg
i didn't notice any signs today. Where? i guess i have been so worried about the community and unity that i am being lax in paying attention to what is right in front of me. Isn't this often the way though. We are wanting and needing and seeking what is already sitting with us and within us. We just need to recognize and accept it.

Does no one use email anymore??? just curious.

Incidentally; the term 'grammar school' is derived from the convention of herding Wampanog children into a class after religious conversion sessions and teaching them English grammar and literacy. You can find these horrible grammars that were self depricating to Indian children by reading 'Cotton's Grammar'. Mass Historical Archives has all of these former referenced docs. If we are going to discuss history then let's learn it first folks.

And as Paul Harvey says.....
By the way; the only source of fuel here at the time was wood. There were only two places in Massachusetts left with any virgin hardwood. Guess which two places.....
You're so clever!!! That's right. Mashpee and Aquinnah.

To understand the thread of events regarding the disposession of our lands i recommend starting with Senate House No. 502 (1833) for a detailed transcript of the hearing that took place here in Mashpee at the Meetinghouse. Here's a hint: It has to do with the same sought after end of our current US govt. Here's the answer: a fuel source. Also a look at the events in Aquinnah (formerly Gay Head), during that same time, is telling as to motives and methods of acquiring fuel.

There were no laws in the 17th or 18th century prohibiting teaching Wamps to read or write. This is just false. In fact, the Wampanoag are the first Amer-Indian People to use an alphabetic writing system and the corpus of Wampanoag written documents from the 17th and 18th centuries is the largest collection on the continent. Wampanoag literacy during this period rivaled English literacy. The first bible put to press on this continent was printed in Wampanoag in 1663 in Cambridge, MA.

Deltaman'
By the way, you may want to know in advance that you will have to leave your name with the receptionist there in order to be given my cell phone number. Normally i do not allow my cell or home number to be given out to anyone.

Deltaman,
that morpheme from your dictionary is a a different morphem. The one that i used on the end of your name is an agentive form that indicates, 'male','man'. It is not used on its own but is found in words where reference is made to 'male' as opposed to 'female'. Hence, Delta-op, 'Deltaman'. Sorry there is no circumflex over the vowel in this post. Keyboarding issues abound. As to the other offer; i told any wamp reading these posts who i am anyway. i gave it in Wamp. i am quneeqaees, 'little doe'. You can reach me by calling the tribal office and asking for my cell #. i will leave instructions there for the number to be given out.

News gal:
i went back and read your post several times. To whom are you referring when suggest that war will be waged against Wôps again? Are you suggesting that the tribe will again have its Sôtyum (Chief) beheaded and have his head hung on a pole in Plymouth for 20 years? or are you suggesting that Wamp-Pride will be beheaded? i would not recommend making a physical threat to anyone in my family again. These things are taken very seriously and at least one blogger making suggestion of another 'Indian war' against this tribe has already been dealt with by the police.

Deltaôp
i guess i had envisioned a place where there could be productive discussion among a number of participants with some basic rules of respect and good manners. That, however, would require of me more hours than i actually can afford to spend away from tribal/family responsibilites. While my face is often in a book or document of some sort; it is not 'AIM or Blogging for Dummies'. my children have it all over me on that score! i feel as though posting here is leaving my People vulnerable to a sort of psuedo-anonymity since it feels as though we are being watched by someone who takes a sort of twisted pleasure in watching a People in turmoil. i also believe that a fear of being insignificant on one's part can lead to behavior that can become obsessive and agressive and eventually dangerous to those around him. It really is a bit creepy.

Wamp-Pride
i thought it may be you.....very proud of you as usual. It is really nice, and comforting, to be able to say that to each other right now. It is particularly comforting to know that some things will never change; the women who weave and hold the web.

Deltaôp
Are you, per chance, offering your willingness to host a place of respectful discourse and sharing via cyberspace or another venue?

nutus8ees quneeqâees. wuneekun kunakushkawunât keesuq.
keesuq, 'day'

peter ukuhqee akuchuw neewuchee musahwaw nutawâak 'trash' 'peter is painfully embarrassed because he called my People 'trash'

Our children can and do read. Please be cognizant of that in your dealings with one another and remember that what is being said is being said to them too. ALL of our children.

his name (apes, apess) means, 'remain!'. Using the idealized orthography of Pequot; ápush! This is cognate with wampanoag âpush!, 'remain (you singular)!'. The use of /s/ for the sound |sh| was common during the 17th and 18th century native writings. The use of /e/ was also common for the sound |u|, as in the English word cUp.