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Democrant [Member]
In response to: Mihos campaign refutes today's Globe story about an IRS tax lien
In response to: Mihos campaign refutes today's Globe story about an IRS tax lien
And the Globe's response to the response- http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/09/29/mihos_falls_short_on_irs_tax_lien_explanation/
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Brewster's game of municipal musical chairs explained
In response to: Brewster's game of municipal musical chairs explained
As Selectman Ed Lewis said at the meeting, he is unsure whether this actually saves money or not. I think it's the best shot at doing so. While Lavasseur estimated savings of $223K, several people pointed out that the Stony Brook addition will cost to heat and cool. And while a figure of $31K in savings for not heating Town Hall, that is offset by utility cost moving into Eddy. So it's a bit of a shell game and moving target to get a serious number here.
What kind of savings really depends on whether the verbal commitment made by a representative of the State Treasurer's office to maintain the SBA payments, is valid.
It'll be an interesting Town Meeting. Also interesting is the fact that a hearing on such a major issue gets about 50 people there, when you can get a couple hundred to show up about a tree.
What kind of savings really depends on whether the verbal commitment made by a representative of the State Treasurer's office to maintain the SBA payments, is valid.
It'll be an interesting Town Meeting. Also interesting is the fact that a hearing on such a major issue gets about 50 people there, when you can get a couple hundred to show up about a tree.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Brewster Selectmen seek input on elementary school re-org; Ideas sought for Dennisport Center re-design; Orleans seeks funding requests from local human service agencies; Affordable housing in Eastham
In response to: Brewster Selectmen seek input on elementary school re-org; Ideas sought for Dennisport Center re-design; Orleans seeks funding requests from local human service agencies; Affordable housing in Eastham
I agree with capeconservative, Lighthouse is a good school. That said, I am wondering whether Brewster made any headway with the state over SBA payments still owed for the Eddy School. The town was hoping the state would continue to pay the last few installments of the annual $545K SBA payment. Given the state finances, I don't see where the state would be motivated to do so. I don't think Brewster can afford to give up that much money at the same time they may be looking for an override.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy wows Worcester; Newsman calls Ted's book "fantasy"; Beacon Hill catches "Casino fever "; Fatal crash details; Contractors hampered; Suicide rates up; Memorial flag flies high; Bank gives more than "Five Cents"; Preparing for the Cape
In response to: Christy wows Worcester; Newsman calls Ted's book "fantasy"; Beacon Hill catches "Casino fever "; Fatal crash details; Contractors hampered; Suicide rates up; Memorial flag flies high; Bank gives more than "Five Cents"; Preparing for the Cape
Good tabloid stuff CCT, Mudd did not call the book "beyond preposterous", but he did question that section. Mudd may be correct, certainly both parties have their own interest at heart. There was nothing wrong with Mudd's questions at face value, the background will never be known.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Sagamore Bridge traffic causing major headaches; Convenience is the ticket on the New Bedford fast ferry; No signs that shark frenzy is waning; Dynasty in the dune: Malicoat Family; High Surf Advisory
In response to: Sagamore Bridge traffic causing major headaches; Convenience is the ticket on the New Bedford fast ferry; No signs that shark frenzy is waning; Dynasty in the dune: Malicoat Family; High Surf Advisory
This morning's news indicated that after a meeting with all parties, it was determined there is nothing they can do now about the Sagamore mess. Of course not, because the time to consider this was before they began. I can imagine the publicity on this can't help but hurt the Fall tourist season, who's going to want to deal with this? I wonder what this Friday will bring getting on Cape, and Sunday getting off the sandbar.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Mihos in Governor's race to stay
In response to: Mihos in Governor's race to stay
Let's see, we go from GOP Christy to Independent Christy to run for Gov, back to GOP Christy to run for Gov, to GOP Christy to run for Senate. I guess taking on a selectman from Canton is a better fight than Muffy or Charlie Baker :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Wait a while before renaming things for Ted
In response to: Wait a while before renaming things for Ted
Meanwhile back in reality- "Havern, who cosponsored the nearly unknown legislation, says the idea originated with Thomas Cahir, currently a top assistant to the state transportation secretary, who was then a Barnstable Democrat who chaired the House Transportation Committee.
Cahir said yesterday he got the idea in the months after Rose Kennedy, who was born in the North End, died at age 104. At the time, he said, state leaders like himself were attempting to mollify North End residents and merchants, who would soon have their lives turned upside down by the Big Dig. As a result, he said, Rose Kennedy, the neighborhood's most famous daughter, was a natural fit.
"We talked about it in conference and adopted it," Cahir said. "We had the Republican conferees on the committee and we made some cogent arguments that it was an appropriate name, and they agreed."
The Surface Artery's true name may have remained virtually unknown for five years, but Cahir insisted the legislation was anything but a secret.
"I thought people read bills when they become law," Cahir said. "
Cahir said yesterday he got the idea in the months after Rose Kennedy, who was born in the North End, died at age 104. At the time, he said, state leaders like himself were attempting to mollify North End residents and merchants, who would soon have their lives turned upside down by the Big Dig. As a result, he said, Rose Kennedy, the neighborhood's most famous daughter, was a natural fit.
"We talked about it in conference and adopted it," Cahir said. "We had the Republican conferees on the committee and we made some cogent arguments that it was an appropriate name, and they agreed."
The Surface Artery's true name may have remained virtually unknown for five years, but Cahir insisted the legislation was anything but a secret.
"I thought people read bills when they become law," Cahir said. "
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Wait a while before renaming things for Ted
In response to: Wait a while before renaming things for Ted
Actually, more people should know about Leonard Zakim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_P._Zakim
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Why Deval Patrick should be nervous
In response to: Why Deval Patrick should be nervous
I guess you can ask Mitt Romney how well business experience translated into the corner office.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cape League improves upon ‘great’: not once, but twice
In response to: Cape League improves upon ‘great’: not once, but twice
It's not a perfect thing to have the game at Fenway, but maybe in the long run it'll help promote the league more, encourage some day trippers, good for business, etc. Nice that that Sox are hosting this, given how MLB in general has acted like completely short sighted turds about teams names. And it's a nice perk for the players.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Spring comes to Brewster
In response to: Spring comes to Brewster
Great job by all participants. I was wondering how well attended the whole weekend was, as it didn't feel like there was the kind of traffic in town that I usually see. Weather, economy and flu doesn't help.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The real story behind last Sunday's Turnpike debacle
In response to: The real story behind last Sunday's Turnpike debacle
Fair is fair, and while I don't hesitate to criticize some of the things Christy has said, I completely agree with giving away the transponders.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy running hard for 2010
In response to: Christy running hard for 2010
Ultimately, part of the problem is that people simply do not have time to be involved up to their necks to make a serious evaluation as to what various candidates are advocating. The media coverage, is the equivalent of reducing something in a saucepan, though obviously a far more inexact science. While the tarnish is off the governor right now, it remains to be seen if someone can bring forth a coherent, well thought out plan that would do things differently. Whoever was in office now would be facing the same choices. Before Patrick, neither the Dems in the legislature, nor the GOP governors, had the stomach to deal with the structural issues in how this state collects revenue. They also both left existing infrastructure crumble, while the sucking noise known as the Big Dig occupied theie time in some way, though clearly not in oversight. A pox on everyone.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: A ray of recession relief arriving shortly
In response to: A ray of recession relief arriving shortly
While in general agreement with the article, it should be pointed out that the median income in Barnstable County is 60K- http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/STTable?-geo_id=05000US25001&-qr_name=ACS_2007_1YR_G00_S1903&-ds_name=ACS_2007_1YR_G00_ .
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Michael McCaffrey, family man, educator, blogger, dies
In response to: Michael McCaffrey, family man, educator, blogger, dies
The world is a little lesser today without the contributions of this genuine and decent man. Condolences to the family, with the knowledge that he Michael touched peoples lives. Peace.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Girl Scout cookie sales crumble; Classmates remember Steve Bernard; Google improve "Cape Cod" search
In response to: Girl Scout cookie sales crumble; Classmates remember Steve Bernard; Google improve "Cape Cod" search
Hmmmm how do you think those salaries compare to a private sector job, for a similar sized organization? Nevermind the fact that scouting provides a valuable outlet to boys and girls across the country. In fact, the last 2 salaries are below the 2006 Massachusetts median income, the nerve! You make it sound like Girl Scout cookies is some horrible scandal, when really the information about what the program is and does is readily available - http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_cookies/. It's not one of their big troop fundraisers, nor is it intended to be. I can tell you personally, from spending a lot of mornings in the bottle and can recycle bins at the dumps, wading through glass and stale beer, that the Scouts get more money from those wonderful activities. Further, a lot of troops are involved in programs where you "buy" the cookies and donate them to our troops overseas. Damn radicals, huh!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Governor's Office announces $280 million in federal recovery funds to assist schools with special education costs
In response to: Governor's Office announces $280 million in federal recovery funds to assist schools with special education costs
There is a difference between behavioral issues and to generalize that all students with behavioral issues come from bad families is simply wrong. And it seems pretty clear that a school system such as Nauset has been successful at both serving the needs of special ed students, and producing outstanding, college-ready graduates. It should not be an either-or situation, the expectation should be that schools provide programs that touch all students.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Deval Patrick's politically clueless performance
In response to: Deval Patrick's politically clueless performance
Amazingly, people think that the problems that were created over many years, will just go away in a snap. Cluelessness disguised as cynicism. The structural problems of the Massachusetts budget, the problems with the Big Dig, and ignoring our crumbling infrastructure have been around for years. It was a lot easier in the past to just ignore these things and let someone else deal with them. One thing the governor has done poorly is lost control of the message. He is partly to blame for that. Yet for all the talk about gas taxes or toll hikes, you don't see much attention paid to the reforms in the bills filed. And people should be engaged in finding answers, not just whining.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Brewster's Eddy School wins regional Destination ImagiNation, again
In response to: Brewster's Eddy School wins regional Destination ImagiNation, again
Both kids and parent volunteers work outrageously hard on DI, congrats to Brewster, and to all the teams. The efforts put in do show that it really is the journey, not the deestination that matters.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bigger is always… Bigger
In response to: Bigger is always… Bigger
The primary impetus behind regionalization is budgetary. If people within towns want to provide the type of education that kids need to compete in the world, wherever in the world they end up, there is a cost to doing that. I saw a stat recently that there are more honors students in India, than there are students in the United States. I heard one of the superintendents state that to be able to do honors programs, you need enough students to justify having the position. You're right, smaller schools do work best - people just need to pay for them. Short of that, there are economies in regionalizing to be found, and the best systems find ways within that to "act" smaller.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Trader Joe's: Check out the chicken on the cheap
In response to: Trader Joe's: Check out the chicken on the cheap
My daughter swears by the frozen Joe's Diner mac and cheese, head and shoulders above any other non-restaurant version she has had. It's a microwave job, with 5 cheese gooeyness :). I wish we had a larger Trader Joe's.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: In Case You Missed It! "Tolls would never come down"
In response to: In Case You Missed It! "Tolls would never come down"
Deval has henchmen! Who knew, lol. It's easy to say no to this and no to that, without actually proposing comprehensive solutions to the significant issues of a crumbling infrastructure and and an economic recession the likes of which has not hit this country in this generation, at least. There is absolutely room at the table for someone of any political persuasion to be a reformer, it's desperately needed here. This ain't it.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Recession changes Wamp plan for casino; Summer business will sparkle; Quincy Goliath crane asea; Gas tax hypocrites;
In response to: Recession changes Wamp plan for casino; Summer business will sparkle; Quincy Goliath crane asea; Gas tax hypocrites;
I have a slight cognitive disconnect between the headline about a sparkling summer, versus the actual quote - cautiously optimistic it will be halfway decent?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Work getting under way on wind turbine at MMR
In response to: Work getting under way on wind turbine at MMR
Brewster is looking to put a couple of turbines up also, I believe somewhere around the golf course.... making it the largest mini golf hazard in history.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy's Stimulus Plan for Massachusetts
In response to: Christy's Stimulus Plan for Massachusetts
Sounds like the type of demagoguery that the electorate loves to eat up. Cut 8,000 state jobs! Well which ones? From 2007 Census statistics, Massachusetts is right about the national average in number of state workers per capita.
No more taxes, no more tolls! Well, how exactly do you think the state will meet it's obligations for debt, maintaining infrastructure, etc. You claim people are moving from Massachusetts because of the taxes, yet the overall tax burden in Massachusetts is below the national average. Everyone knows that Massachusetts suckled for years on the revenue from capital gains during good times to fund the increasing budgets, a habit that pre-dates Patrick. Bullet points are hardly substitutes for what needs to be a serious approach to how this state functions, be it Dems, Republicans or bloggers ;).
No more taxes, no more tolls! Well, how exactly do you think the state will meet it's obligations for debt, maintaining infrastructure, etc. You claim people are moving from Massachusetts because of the taxes, yet the overall tax burden in Massachusetts is below the national average. Everyone knows that Massachusetts suckled for years on the revenue from capital gains during good times to fund the increasing budgets, a habit that pre-dates Patrick. Bullet points are hardly substitutes for what needs to be a serious approach to how this state functions, be it Dems, Republicans or bloggers ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Gas Tax to soar 19 cents, Christy carps; Sports tops Nauset cuts, $500k slashed; Gun charge dropped against State cop; Cape fishermen first to share
In response to: Gas Tax to soar 19 cents, Christy carps; Sports tops Nauset cuts, $500k slashed; Gun charge dropped against State cop; Cape fishermen first to share
Here ya go Christy - http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=ehedsubtopic&L=6&L0=Home&L1=Economic+Analysis&L2=Executive+Office+of+Housing+and+Economic+Development&L3=Department+of+Business+Development&L4=Our+Agencies+and+Commission&L5=Massachusetts+Office+of+Business+Development&sid=Ehed
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Andrea Silbert of Harwich fights Boston poverty
In response to: Andrea Silbert of Harwich fights Boston poverty
Andrea is the best. The initiative she has to get things done would have served us all well.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Someone give Cleon a toke, quick!
In response to: Someone give Cleon a toke, quick!
I'm not sure what is more wrong, Cleon's legislation or Walter's over the top rhetoric? I would prefer to have a legal opinion as to whether the legislation covering schools and public buildings is even necessary.The 3 strike legislation is just an annoyance, come on.
That said, Cleon's voting record is quite safely democratic, Walter. If you are looking for a politician you agree with 100% of the time, you will always be disappointed.
That said, Cleon's voting record is quite safely democratic, Walter. If you are looking for a politician you agree with 100% of the time, you will always be disappointed.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cap reached on H-2B program, cutting off source of seasonal workers
In response to: Cap reached on H-2B program, cutting off source of seasonal workers
That was amusing, Monp.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Reform before Taxes!!!
In response to: Reform before Taxes!!!
I'd like to thank Rep Perry for echoing what Gov. Patrick has already outlined, a call for numerous reforms including dismantling the Turnpike Authority, restructuring the Big Dig debt, reforming the pension systems, additional consolidation between Health and Human Services, and Housing and Economic Development, and asking for more immediate plans to cut health care costs in the Commonwealth.
Nice to have you on board.
Still doesn't balance the books, but I'm sure you knew that.
Nice to have you on board.
Still doesn't balance the books, but I'm sure you knew that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Perry: Dump Turnpike Authority, plans for higher taxes
In response to: Perry: Dump Turnpike Authority, plans for higher taxes
YT... ummm wouldn't you need to ask your town for that? Ask them to cut back on DPW, police and fire while you're at it, so you can get your relief. Cities and towns got more money last year from the state, I would suggest that your property taxes would be higher yet, if they hadn't. As it is, the bottom has now dropped out of the economy, so you can either pay for your services, or do without.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Biden is fed by Felis; Green business council formed; Orleans-connected Treasury Secretary's task
In response to: Biden is fed by Felis; Green business council formed; Orleans-connected Treasury Secretary's task
It's funny, if Obama picked a bunch of people no one has heard of, the same people would be screaming about the rookies. It's a pretty simple concept - you have people that are experienced in how government works, taken their lead from someone that has promised to do things differently. That has a much better chance of actually succeeding than a group that knows nothing about the institutions, trying to find their way.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Lewis and Turner reprising their tax act
In response to: Lewis and Turner reprising their tax act
Actually, many, many places manage to do this. Now if you prefer towns cutting services, or having property tax overrides, you are welcome to do that. In addition, the home rule petition only gives towns the ability to do this, they still have to approve it at town meetings. A little fuller picture is needed here.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
Sorry boys, not going to rehash old stuff for you. If the GOP could not pass reform when they controlled the White House, House and Senate, you'll have to find some other excuse. I've said repeatedly, as did the President-Elect on 60 Minutes - there is plenty of blame to go around. That's far more honest than anything you all can spin.
Thank you Christy for your response. While I disagree that there are existing resources to handle the debt, I do think you should revive the transponder idea. I would rather see the gas tax increase, rather than raising tolls for people that come from the west to pay for the Big Dig, a project that they don't use. Overall, the state has a serious issue around even maintaining the infrastructure, never mind addressing new needs, especially around mass transit.
Thank you Christy for your response. While I disagree that there are existing resources to handle the debt, I do think you should revive the transponder idea. I would rather see the gas tax increase, rather than raising tolls for people that come from the west to pay for the Big Dig, a project that they don't use. Overall, the state has a serious issue around even maintaining the infrastructure, never mind addressing new needs, especially around mass transit.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
Mav... I know, damn, I hate the fact that I actually bother looking things up, as opposed to blathering off the top of my head, like many do (and no, that was not directed at Christy). I don't care whether you agree with me or not, but it speaks more towards the level of discourse here to call it dishonest. Too many times, people accept things prima facie. If you would like to join the thumb sucking babies when challenged, there is a binky reserved for you. I believe Mr Mihos is fully capable of expounding on his point of view, without the Injustice League of America chiming in.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
poss? Did someone die and leave you moderator, lol?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
The Globe cited in an editorial that we're 7.5 cents below the national average in state and federal gas taxes, I believe this must be their source- http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/upload/2008_159_GAS_MAP_OCT2008.pdf
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
In response to: Christy: Deval's Pike plan another sweet nothing
Beware of course what any politician tells you, and that applies to Christy as well. Aside from rehashing old political fights, it is worth seeing what value there is in selling property, though I don't have the same faith that it is just as marketable in these economic times. Second, it is simply not true that there are existing resources to pay off bonds. And while the increase tolls will generate more revenue, there will also be an offset from the removal of western tolls and cost of highway configuration.
Getting rid of the Turnpike Authority is a needed act of reform, we have far too many redundant functions in this state. Second, the state needs to get better access to Fast Lane transponders. It only cost about a third to process a transaction that way, versus a physical toll collection.
Finally, the Massachusetts gas tax should be increased. We are currently below the national average. A penny to the gas tax brings in 25 million to the state. A four cent increase gets you to 100 million and evenly distributes cost.
Getting rid of the Turnpike Authority is a needed act of reform, we have far too many redundant functions in this state. Second, the state needs to get better access to Fast Lane transponders. It only cost about a third to process a transaction that way, versus a physical toll collection.
Finally, the Massachusetts gas tax should be increased. We are currently below the national average. A penny to the gas tax brings in 25 million to the state. A four cent increase gets you to 100 million and evenly distributes cost.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
OK that's it. You all can find some other place to work these things out. Comments are closed.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Choosing Change
In response to: Choosing Change
Andy- always good to read your thoughts. I've wondered whether there are still some of those "Frank Sargent" republicans down there, versus the modern strain of GOP.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Is that anything like verbatim?
Thanks poss, it's nice to know that I entertain the children too.
Thanks poss, it's nice to know that I entertain the children too.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Hee hee.... the Wall Street Journal of course plays it straight down the middle. As Bugs Bunny says, what a maroon. It is laugh out loud funny that because you can find something in print that supports your inane point of view, that you would actually call it "facts". You understand the easiest thing in the world would be to post five other articles of "facts" also? No wait, you don't get that. It has nothing to do with arrogance, it has everything to do with showing just how far out there you are. I said a lonnnnng time ago, there is plenty of blame to go around. I was right then, I'm still right, wingnut screed notwithstanding.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Bunny, just possee rambling incoherently again, nothing new under the sun. Though conveniently, he does make my point about how some people will believe anything if they keep hearing it enough....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Buzz, just because you say "again" and invoke Frank and Dodd, doesn't make you right. I know you don't understand that, because the playbook says keep repeating incorrect things often enough, some folks will believe it. It's like the quarter of Texas that thinks Obama is a Muslim, you think they came up with that themselves?
If the answer was as easy as personal responsibilty gang, we wouldn't need any laws protecting people from businesses, from unscrupulous practices.
If the answer was as easy as personal responsibilty gang, we wouldn't need any laws protecting people from businesses, from unscrupulous practices.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
There is some blame on individuals and there is some blame on banks. People will believe what their banks tell them, and the banks wanted to get those mortgages and pushed hard. Many of these folks were first time buyers, they don't have any advisor, just the belief that a bank wouldn't sell them something they couldn't afford. Get real.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: D-Y superintendent denies public records requests
In response to: D-Y superintendent denies public records requests
I agree with you Dan. Methinks it's leftover angst around anything D-Y related.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
lol, and now you have to ask me?
Even aside from that, if you are willing to accept an economic meltdown to bring down oil prices, you go right ahead. Good, cogent analysis!
Even aside from that, if you are willing to accept an economic meltdown to bring down oil prices, you go right ahead. Good, cogent analysis!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
I like when you make up both the premise and response.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
As emphatic as Obama was about how if you made $250K or less, then your taxes would not go up under his plan, exit polls showed that people who make $200K and over went for Obama 52-46. Interestingly, folks between 100-200K went for McCain. Greenwich, CT went Dem for the first time since LBJ.
Gas under 2 bucks off Cape, btw.
Gas under 2 bucks off Cape, btw.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Yawwwwn... grab a tissue for the one trick pony. The critical error... reality is a subjective state. The agenda is actually getting this country back on the right track. a track that over 80% think is off course. The agenda is restoring the country from a president that has a lower approval rating than when Nixon left office. You can sit back and whine with your silly, repetitive and wandering prose if you choose. Unless you get involved in trying to make things better, then you have nothing to whine about.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Leave it to Buzz, after a year and a half campaign, 3 debates and a comprehensive website, to ask what Obama's plans are.
Possee... oh doom and gloom one.... no one is making you stay here under such duress! Let's start by getting rid of the military, man, there's a sinkhole for money, huh? And you certainly can't break even paving streets, let's get rid of that and unburden our cities and states.
Possee... oh doom and gloom one.... no one is making you stay here under such duress! Let's start by getting rid of the military, man, there's a sinkhole for money, huh? And you certainly can't break even paving streets, let's get rid of that and unburden our cities and states.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
It is not a common theme. A common theme would be to restore more of a balance in the concept of progressive taxation, which is a concept that goes back to Teddy Roosevelt. I don't think there has been some huge push for an equal distribution.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Angry? Buzzy, I am in the best of spirits, even better when you "nattering nabobs of negativism" spin yourself into the ground, sputtering one inanity after another. That's good stuff! If me being angry works in the surreal world, enjoy, it sure gives me great material to work with. Remember, hope won; anger, lies and distortion lost this one.
Mmmm... can't wait til President Obama starts ringing out all those executive orders to overturn some of the Bush damage :).
Mmmm... can't wait til President Obama starts ringing out all those executive orders to overturn some of the Bush damage :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Poss? Wake me up when the "facts" roll in.I see from your post that random speculation without regard to accuracy is also a specialty.If you all hadn't noticed, optimism and community beat out fear this election.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Bunny, you are far more forgiving than I, it's the usual sputter whenever Buzz screws up. I'm pretty sure anyone can respond to anything on my blog, just a guess.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Oh far more than you, my incoherent little buddy! What you typed absolutely can be construed as such; what you meant, versus your backtracking, only you know. Putting an "s" at the end of boyfriend is certainly not a typo. Mind you the point itself was incorrect also, but that's to be expected.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
I guess twit is better than ..... nahhhh why go there. It's simple not my fault you are an inarticulate parrot.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Well somebunny said it best, Buzz. It is pretty much habitual with you, and I can only go with what you actually type. Freud rears his ugly head, lol.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
The exact word was "Boyfriends", the statement stands on it's own, I offered my opinion as to how that came across, not to mention "Fannied". Now how do you explain that during their relationship, Frank voted in favor of increased oversight? Once again, inconvenient when facts get in the way.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Oh Buzz, stop lying about what people did or did not do. And Ez's comment about where the full responsibility falls is accurate, as I've also pointed out before. Deep breath now, a lot of people screwed up. And you can leave out your homophobia also, thanks. Actually nevermind, wear it proud!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
Don if a GOP candidate went along with the Bush program, it's fair game to make that known. The GOP could have run ads that tied various people to Bill Clinton's policies also, but ummmm, by and large, it was a time of prosperity. Bush's policies are seen as failures.
I do agree and have said here myself, there is plenty of blame to go around for the current situation. I think Obama has done the right thing in already having an economic summit and you can be sure that come 1/20/09, they will hit the ground running.
I think the GOP has other things they ought to think about, rather than knee jerk opposition. Bi-Partisanship, obviously has to be practiced by both sides. Now Emmanuel was challenged on this, this morning and he said his marching orders on this comes from the top. Hey it's hard enough to keep the Dems in line, if anyone on the Democratic side thinks this is the time to bring up this huge laundry list of things they would like, they are dreaming. Not happening.
I do agree and have said here myself, there is plenty of blame to go around for the current situation. I think Obama has done the right thing in already having an economic summit and you can be sure that come 1/20/09, they will hit the ground running.
I think the GOP has other things they ought to think about, rather than knee jerk opposition. Bi-Partisanship, obviously has to be practiced by both sides. Now Emmanuel was challenged on this, this morning and he said his marching orders on this comes from the top. Hey it's hard enough to keep the Dems in line, if anyone on the Democratic side thinks this is the time to bring up this huge laundry list of things they would like, they are dreaming. Not happening.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
I guess when Faux News begins to act like a responsible news outlet, life will be better for them? There was thus great clip on the Daily Show, when Chris Wallace was on,about the "stories" Fox ran the day before.
Now Mav, when you say it's a free country til January, I'm pretty sure that overlooking the current administration's tendency to traipse over the Constitution was an oversight.
It was nice to read how the transition team is already working on hundreded of executive orders to rescind, such as stem cell research, the environment, etc. It was nice to see a poll that 2/3's of America were proud and optimistic.
Being a Dem, I am looking forward to seeing how we mess up a good thing...
Now Mav, when you say it's a free country til January, I'm pretty sure that overlooking the current administration's tendency to traipse over the Constitution was an oversight.
It was nice to read how the transition team is already working on hundreded of executive orders to rescind, such as stem cell research, the environment, etc. It was nice to see a poll that 2/3's of America were proud and optimistic.
Being a Dem, I am looking forward to seeing how we mess up a good thing...
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
oh gawwwd, it'll be fun to listen to the hypocrites and revisionists....next?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
In response to: The Post-Election Rant
I knew I count on the whiners to come through. Now when it comes to respect, I recall quite well when Dubya had an approval rating of what... 90%? People rallied around after 9/11, even if he did steal the election ;).
Before you get all wrapped up in any former Clinton folks being involved in the government, try and recall the state of the economy when Clinton left, with a surplus.
The change, for those of you that still don't get it, is from what Bush has done to this country. Instead of whining, trying and fix all the ways your party has screwed things up. Novel idea, huh?
Before you get all wrapped up in any former Clinton folks being involved in the government, try and recall the state of the economy when Clinton left, with a surplus.
The change, for those of you that still don't get it, is from what Bush has done to this country. Instead of whining, trying and fix all the ways your party has screwed things up. Novel idea, huh?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: A new type of capitalism
In response to: A new type of capitalism
As always, my friend Andrea offers good advice. She would have been a fine Lt Gov., I'm glad she remains engaged in these critical issues.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Fired Up, Ready To Go
In response to: Fired Up, Ready To Go
I'm guessing the dummies had no problem making that error.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Voters head to polls early in Mashpee, other Cape towns
In response to: Voters head to polls early in Mashpee, other Cape towns
Heavy early voting in Brewster, a 1000 in the first couple hours, in addition to over 1000 absentee ballots from what I have heard. There are about 8500 voters in Brewster.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Are you done bringing nothing to the table, common? All you've done is attack me or make up things, then actually have the nerve to complain when you get your crap handed back to you and then some. Amazing. Enjoy your negative abyss, most of us are trying to do positive things. Have fun, Oscar.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Andy- thanks for the thoughts. One person emailing a corporation won't get anyone's attention, maybe I overestimate people's willingness to do something simple. There is a quote RFK used to say (rough paraphrase coming) that everytime someone speaks out, it's like a ripple in a pond, but collectively those ripples can form waves of change. And I agree, elected officials are too complacent on every day issues, but, not to excuse it, seems to be the same complacency as the loyal subjects. Yeah I do have that in mind also....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Buzz, now if we put your substance and commonsense's substance together, someone could get their nickel deposit back from Cumby's... maybe.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
At least you're consistent,you still have nothing to say. I would suggest reading a book, but clearly, you weren't even able to read a couple paragraphs without getting confused. You don't need to fear the next 4 years, you'll simply continue not to get it.
Happy now?
Happy now?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Perry to file comprehensive illegal immigration package
In response to: Perry to file comprehensive illegal immigration package
Actually Buzz, it is to demonstrate that Perry's action goes well beyond even what an ultra conservative group thinks of the idea. Thanks for not getting that ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Buzz, it's not a matter of being right or wrong. it seems to me that what's wrong is how people on the lower Cape get screwed and that no one challenges that. Christy's point had to do with what the price is going to be at all his locations, not significantly variable pricing within the chain, good lord man. Then off you launch on supermarkets on or off Cape, as if that is a good analogy to a 10% price difference between 2 of the same stores, 20 miles apart on this side of the bridge.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Funny stuff.... raising questions that you don't have the answers, contradictory just for the sake of being so. Seems to me that Christy's keeps prices consistent regardless of location, and that's small potatoes compared to Hess.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
Don- I'm not sure where either of you get the $500 million figure from. To date $600 million has been used from it, but I've seen numbers indicating there had been as much as $2 billion. The point is, it has not been blown through, as per your previous remark.
Ultimately Don, it is the state GOP responsible for that 141 number. When you post something and top it with the Wilkerson thing, as if that has ANYTHING to do with Sarah Peake, it speaks more to a lack of a positive message to offer voters. Try and focus on what your opponent is or is not doing for the district and how you would be able to effectively do things differently. Yeah, I know, sometimes I get crazy ideas
Ultimately Don, it is the state GOP responsible for that 141 number. When you post something and top it with the Wilkerson thing, as if that has ANYTHING to do with Sarah Peake, it speaks more to a lack of a positive message to offer voters. Try and focus on what your opponent is or is not doing for the district and how you would be able to effectively do things differently. Yeah, I know, sometimes I get crazy ideas
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Thanks Jonathan. I can also safely say that even as a true blue Dem, there are enough scoundrels around to keep everyone in business.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Wonderful try "common", ultimately it is people like you that do nothing but prattle on, rather than take an active interest in what goes on in your community, that allow the status quo to go on. And last time I checked, it is well within the bounds of town government to look after the interests of the citizens of that town. Maybe in your view, they can only do one thing at a time. Back in the real world, it can be done. Smarmy doesn't change anything, does it?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hyannis Circuit City to remain empty for an undetermined period of time
In response to: Hyannis Circuit City to remain empty for an undetermined period of time
Whole Foods? That would be a good addition. I don't think it would hurt TJ's too much, in fact it could help if more people are drawn to food shop because of it.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
It will be news to the State Treasurer and Auditor that we have blown through our rainy day fund. All $1.6 billion disappeared, who knew? Absolutely, some has been spent because it is a.... RAINY DAY FUND!
The reality of politics is you have to attract money. I would just as soon see Clean Elections, I hope you would also. Ultimately the question becomes one of what does someone bring to their district. Disagree on issues if you choose, but smearing someone that has not done anything illegal or unethical, is wrong.
The reality of politics is you have to attract money. I would just as soon see Clean Elections, I hope you would also. Ultimately the question becomes one of what does someone bring to their district. Disagree on issues if you choose, but smearing someone that has not done anything illegal or unethical, is wrong.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Joakim survives recall with 59% of votes cast Thursday
In response to: Joakim survives recall with 59% of votes cast Thursday
I'm glad I'm out of this one, but it does strike me as amusing that this is spearheaded by someone outside the district that elected her.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Perry to file comprehensive illegal immigration package
In response to: Perry to file comprehensive illegal immigration package
Brit? Are you including people like Mitt Romney, who hire illegals as cheap labor, those sorts of liberals? And what exactly in the Constitution are you referring to on this issue? Probably isn't due process, we know you all aren't so big on that, right?
As far as Rep Perry's efforts, it's the latest misguided attempt to patronize voters with a knee jerk move that in reality, makes matters worse. Conservative groups such as the Cato Institute oppose using the federal verification system - http://www.coxwashington.com/news/content/shared/news/immigration/E_VERIFY26_COX.html . It hurts Americans and hurts small businesses. Heck it even hurts large businesses who try and comply - http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/24/60/75.html . It's bad policy.
As far as Rep Perry's efforts, it's the latest misguided attempt to patronize voters with a knee jerk move that in reality, makes matters worse. Conservative groups such as the Cato Institute oppose using the federal verification system - http://www.coxwashington.com/news/content/shared/news/immigration/E_VERIFY26_COX.html . It hurts Americans and hurts small businesses. Heck it even hurts large businesses who try and comply - http://www.workforce.com/section/00/article/24/60/75.html . It's bad policy.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
And in the big picture, it is exactly this type of stuff that loses customers, slowly but surely, especially if a competitor has better whoopie pies.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
In response to: Vote or Stop Complaining!
You know, while you eventually get to some issues specifically about Peake that are worth raising,the whole idea of leading with Wilkerson, which has nothing to do with your race and is meant to be incendiary, is beneath contempt. As is Wilkerson, for the record, but it has nothing to do with your race.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
In response to: Shining the Light on Hess Today
Got it backwards common, which of course would be the GOP response :p. I'm pretty sure I asked people to DO something about it, and I did in fact mention I filled up in Hyannis. Don't go letting facts get in the way. As they say about common sense, if it was so common, how come more people don't have it?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: You can't smear hope
In response to: You can't smear hope
Whether it is what happened to Bree, or Mav's latest posting, you have the essence of what's wrong with politics. Create paranoia and fear are the messages being sent out. It's apparently become acceptable to say just about anything in what passes for political discourse. Pretty much reflective of the times, it is a cultural shift that ought to have people concerned.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Barnstable may target panhandling, loitering by street people
In response to: Barnstable may target panhandling, loitering by street people
Let's see, you fine people that have no money, so instead they end up in jail and you end up paying to house them there? Makes all the sense in the world to me......
Democrant [Member]
In response to: More Gas Price Outrage- Cumberland Farms
In response to: More Gas Price Outrage- Cumberland Farms
And at least Christy is the same price at all the locations. What Cumby's does is outrageous. I ran into a friend from Brewster in Trader Joe's tonight and was talking about this. She works in Hyannis and says she NEVER gets gas in Brewster unless it is unavoidable.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: More Gas Price Outrage- Cumberland Farms
In response to: More Gas Price Outrage- Cumberland Farms
Ned, that's so you'll need to buy more gas to go back and forth to Dennis.... just to get back on topic.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Forum set on Hyannis street people
In response to: Forum set on Hyannis street people
Of course by the same theory, anyone in the military must follow an agenda that encourages the need for a military. War is good business.
In both cases, the logic fails.....
In both cases, the logic fails.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Forum set on Hyannis street people
In response to: Forum set on Hyannis street people
While the flag is being raised because of some economic or quality of life impact, the true measure of a community would be it's ability to respond with compassion. It's easy to talk about "those" people, keep them nameless, faceless. Do remember Peter Robbins post- http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.php/2008/04/14/it-s-sprintime-in-hyannis-and-the-homele?blog=177 and articles like this from the Barnstable Patriot- http://www.barnstablepatriot.com/home2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13152&Itemid=58 . Solving the problem does not mean forgetting dignity.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Chatham Bars Inn rolls out recession respite based on daily Dow Jones
In response to: Chatham Bars Inn rolls out recession respite based on daily Dow Jones
I agree with capemom and that is particularly true of restaurants, at all levels. Load up on those large $5 Subway sammiches, kids ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tax Reform. That Is the Question
In response to: Tax Reform. That Is the Question
Among the various flaws in the argument, simply look at states that don't have income taxes and how those people are taxed. A lot of words do not cover up a bad idea.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What McCain Can Do to Win and All Sorts of 'Rants
In response to: What McCain Can Do to Win and All Sorts of 'Rants
Monp, it may work, but the visuals would leave the American people insane and with a nasty twitch.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What McCain Can Do to Win and All Sorts of 'Rants
In response to: What McCain Can Do to Win and All Sorts of 'Rants
Update: The Suffolk University polling this week had these numbers:
Q1 Y=26% N=59% (rest undecideds)
Q2 Y=51% N=32%
Q3 Y=44% N=43%
The Kerry/Beatty "race" was 56-19-6 (libertarian candidate on the ballot also)
Q1 Y=26% N=59% (rest undecideds)
Q2 Y=51% N=32%
Q3 Y=44% N=43%
The Kerry/Beatty "race" was 56-19-6 (libertarian candidate on the ballot also)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Liberal Editor costs Obama the Election
In response to: Liberal Editor costs Obama the Election
I thought it was when Walter tried to vote a 2nd time as Marx,Groucho that caused the brouhaha?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: AG closes Cape Timeshare; Ptown dances; Harwich gets windy; Mihos' morning line
In response to: AG closes Cape Timeshare; Ptown dances; Harwich gets windy; Mihos' morning line
I'm sure Christy knows Michelle Obama quite well.... not. Then again Hill and Michelle have quite a ways to go before icing down into Cindy McCain territory ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
Awww Buzz, that's actually one of the things that ought to get more attention, but doesn't. The thing with McCain is that there are so many hypocrisies with that guy, you just don't know where to begin. I was actually responding specifically to John's point about McCain's service. If anything, maybe I swiftboated him... hmmmmm what playbook did I borrow that from?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
Nice try John, well, not really to be honest. After all, Obama has also destroyed 3 fewer planes than McCain did while he was in the service. There is a whole litany of the Sins of McCain, but what it boils down to is he is part and parcel of the whole GOP failure. No vision, just a rehash of the negativity that helped get us here.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Not much local about the Turkington political contributions
In response to: Not much local about the Turkington political contributions
Peter, will you send me what info you are using. I took a look at the contributions reports from after he transferred money to now, and see very little out of state money.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
Ever careening from one out of context thing to another...... thank goodness the puppets know their lines
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Not much local about the Turkington political contributions
In response to: Not much local about the Turkington political contributions
Hmmm, so by the same token, since 28% of Kerry's contributions are from MA, compared to 23% for Beatty, vote Kerry? And by the way Peter, of the money raised by Turkington since he announced, how much of that was local? Apples to apples, you know.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
Yeah, because after all, Warren Buffet, who you know is a major Obama supporter, must also be a socialist. When your side has no real ideas to offer people, all you have left is to try and scare people. Imagine the Founding Fathers reaction to that degree of shallowness.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Beatty, Kerry spar in televised debate
In response to: Beatty, Kerry spar in televised debate
Beatty's point that we get back 85 cents on the dollar in Federal spending is accurate, and also indicative of how little he understands what he's talking about. For starters, what a senator or congressman does, has little overall impact on that number. Leaving that aside for a moment, is Beatty proposing that there should be more pork barrel money coming to Massachusetts? Tsk, tsk, straying from the reservation on that, isn't he?
The types of things that affect that number are your demographics (lots of older and younger people mean more $$), strength of your economy and base of your economy, federal facilities and big emergencies.
A vote for Beatty is a vote for.... ummmm a natural disaster!
The types of things that affect that number are your demographics (lots of older and younger people mean more $$), strength of your economy and base of your economy, federal facilities and big emergencies.
A vote for Beatty is a vote for.... ummmm a natural disaster!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
In response to: Obama for President, Beatty for the Senate
Beatty has the courage of his convictions? Walter, not exactly sure how you would know about how someone would vote, when they have never held public office, lol. Not that this is a disqualifier for anyone, but there is this leap in logic. Beatty also supports the reckless Question 1, and signed a petition supporting students carrying handguns on campus. And anyone that calls Sarah Palin an "excellent choice".... those are the kind of convictions we can do without.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
Ummmm Buzz, Sarah didn't think of that and boy, didn't take much to flip you, lol
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
Buzz- by spreading the wealth around, I'm pretty sure most folks understand that our taxation system is accepted as progressive. Well it's meant to be, but that is another story. Maybe you think it's American for companies to avoid taxes here and ship jobs overseas?
Here's the best part- Palin calling Obama and Biden and experiment in socialism at a rally yesterday. This from the governor of a state, which has collective ownership of oil and other natural resources, and equally distributes the state's cut of the revenues to every citizen.
The hypocrisy is simply amazing.
Here's the best part- Palin calling Obama and Biden and experiment in socialism at a rally yesterday. This from the governor of a state, which has collective ownership of oil and other natural resources, and equally distributes the state's cut of the revenues to every citizen.
The hypocrisy is simply amazing.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
In response to: McCain's Pennsylvania pride
I do enjoy how people toss around the word "socialism", as if they know what they are talking about. If you apply what I think people mean by it, then there all sorts of aspects of this "socialism" that we've accepted already, the idea of progressive taxation, for example. If you want to scream about socialism, well you best talk to the current Bush Administration about any number of corporate bailouts. Hundreds of billions for corporate America, but vetos 7 billion a year to give 10 million more kids health care.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
I didn't know that ideas cause shortfalls. So where does this 99% chance come from, that they are both... gasp(!), black? By the way, google up something like "state budget crisis" and you'll find the problem is not a Massachusetts one, it's everywhere. As I mentioned elsewhere, at least our unemployment rate is much lower than the national rate. Here's the hard thing to show about property taxes- local government funding from the state was increased this past year. What do you think would have happened to property taxes, or town budgets if it wasn't?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
Christy, as I said, props on your current pricing.In Orleans last night, Mobil and Cumby's were 3.15. Everyone has expenses, no matter where they are. Cape gas prices tend to become more in line, the further from Labor Day we get, I've watched it over and over, and not just anecdotally. If you could do something about the dire state of Chinese food down here, I'd put a sign on my car for you.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
I know, but it looked so much better the other way
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
Sustainable model.... the population continues to get older, there are not enough people to perform the work necessary for the current economy.
If only I was blaming Bush and the GOP for the sandbar, I meant they have cut a far wider swath. One reason why McCain is losing, is by running exactly the same type of campaign and turning off the very independents that once supported him in stronger numbers.
And don't make assumptions about me and Cape Wind. I have on this site argued against the current project. I am not philosophically opposed to, in some way, using wind power there, but I have not been satisfied with the process, nor with Cape Wind itself.
Buzz... I'm not even going to guess what a "pennisular" is. I'll let people work on that themselves ;).
If only I was blaming Bush and the GOP for the sandbar, I meant they have cut a far wider swath. One reason why McCain is losing, is by running exactly the same type of campaign and turning off the very independents that once supported him in stronger numbers.
And don't make assumptions about me and Cape Wind. I have on this site argued against the current project. I am not philosophically opposed to, in some way, using wind power there, but I have not been satisfied with the process, nor with Cape Wind itself.
Buzz... I'm not even going to guess what a "pennisular" is. I'll let people work on that themselves ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
The what's wrong is what I said, I don't believe it is a sustainable model, based on the demographics.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
Mav, you asked good questions til you go off on this Obama feel good thing. Frankly, whatever it's called, if people want to be cynical about everything, nothing gets done. Of course that's been the playbook for the last 8 years anyway, fear and cynicism. That's hardly the stuff that made this nation great.
It's a chicken and egg story. Are there categories of the economy that are, for lack of a better term, "geographically neutral", things that could exist anywhere? I think so, especially in technology. However, you then have to determine how you get the infrastructure for this, and by infrastructure, I mean both people and resources.
Unless there is an effort, I don't think the Cape economy is sustainable. There are reasons why younger people, younger families could be attracted to the sandbar, but the cost of housing is the killer. Nice quality of life, pretty good schools in a lot of places are bona fide plusses. Anyone group on the Cape ever market this place to young families, or to business fairs?If all people do are wring their hands about it, then yes, self-fulfilling prophecy and I believe it simply is not sustainable.
It's a chicken and egg story. Are there categories of the economy that are, for lack of a better term, "geographically neutral", things that could exist anywhere? I think so, especially in technology. However, you then have to determine how you get the infrastructure for this, and by infrastructure, I mean both people and resources.
Unless there is an effort, I don't think the Cape economy is sustainable. There are reasons why younger people, younger families could be attracted to the sandbar, but the cost of housing is the killer. Nice quality of life, pretty good schools in a lot of places are bona fide plusses. Anyone group on the Cape ever market this place to young families, or to business fairs?If all people do are wring their hands about it, then yes, self-fulfilling prophecy and I believe it simply is not sustainable.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
Buzz, I don't sweat this. Certainly the idea that the Obama campaign is taking anything for granted ain't happening. Organization and money is pretty helpful :). More than SNL ;)
I didn't know Deval was responsible for the country's economic downturn, thanks for the update :). Actually Massachusetts unemployment remains below the national average, 6.1 to 5.3% in September. From Forbes-
"New jobs were added in the trade, transportation, utilities and government sectors, while the construction, manufacturing, education, and financial sectors lost jobs."
Well start subtracting those government jobs. No surprise that the financial sector lost jobs. A friend of mine works for MFS in Boston and the "L" word- layoffs, has been floating. Yes we can or maybe we can do better than the nation as a whole. I don't think the cuts are over, my guess is that revenue will continue to tank. Everyone is going to gt some pain from the national problem.
I didn't know Deval was responsible for the country's economic downturn, thanks for the update :). Actually Massachusetts unemployment remains below the national average, 6.1 to 5.3% in September. From Forbes-
"New jobs were added in the trade, transportation, utilities and government sectors, while the construction, manufacturing, education, and financial sectors lost jobs."
Well start subtracting those government jobs. No surprise that the financial sector lost jobs. A friend of mine works for MFS in Boston and the "L" word- layoffs, has been floating. Yes we can or maybe we can do better than the nation as a whole. I don't think the cuts are over, my guess is that revenue will continue to tank. Everyone is going to gt some pain from the national problem.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
I do like how Buzz picks the one narrower category in the Gallup polling, ignoring the 6 point lead in the overall poll :). No post debate numbers included in that, by the way. McCain may well narrow the margin, I wouldn't doubt that, but if you look at where the game is being played, and where McCain is having to play defense, it ain't so good for him. In addition, you also have the unknown factor of people who say they will vote for a African American, but don't behind the curtain, versus an expected increase in turnout among black voters.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
The Obama campaign game plan was to stay on message, stay calm and not engage in a tit for tat with McCain. Hell, he even gave up a chance to even gently make a remark against Palin, as easy a target as there is. Very disciplined performance in not taking the bait.
By the way, of all the debates, props should be given to Bob Schieffer, who did a very fine job in getting the candidates to engage each other.
By the way, of all the debates, props should be given to Bob Schieffer, who did a very fine job in getting the candidates to engage each other.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: How Low can it go?
In response to: How Low can it go?
Actually, I hope this does not motivate people to be less conservation conscious than they had been at $4+/gallon. This just shows how artificial the price per barrel thing is, to drop by almost a half of it's previous high. And to give Christy credit again, I think he wrote about the affect of the speculators on oil prices.
However, consumption of all these whoopie pies are going to affect health premiums down the line ;)
However, consumption of all these whoopie pies are going to affect health premiums down the line ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
Solon, I agree with you. If you are inclined towards D's, you think Obama did great. The R's think McCain did great. The debates and the campaigns are really about where the independents are, and how you get to them. Increasingly, they are also rejecting the type of negativity that McCain has exhibited personally, in ads and in people yelling out things like, "Kill Him!" at Palin rallies. She is far more scary than McCain.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
In response to: McCain Strikes Out Swinging
Hey YT, sorry I complimented McCain for starting strong, I forgot I shouldn't do that, lol. The polls cited indicated McCain got creamed again, again my apologies for your guy doing poorly. If I was in the mood, I'd take the bait, but you know, the scare tactics of the wingnuts that McCain has adopted.... haven't those been effective! Most people understand a progressive tax system, I guess Warren Buffet must be one of those socialists also.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: How Low can it go?
In response to: How Low can it go?
Walter, I complimented Christy for lowering his prices last week. When a high five is appropriate, he gets one. It still doesn't explain the summer pricing issues. Cumby's is worse anyway-pricing and whoopie pies.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
Sorry Andy ;)
The thing is, when you pull out numbers like that, the sustainability of the Cape is really called into question. How you diversify this economy, and how you bring the wages up, are significant challenges. It's not a news flash, but it no one has really come up with anything.
The thing is, when you pull out numbers like that, the sustainability of the Cape is really called into question. How you diversify this economy, and how you bring the wages up, are significant challenges. It's not a news flash, but it no one has really come up with anything.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
jim- I know, Christy mentioned that in another post. But it is curious how, just taking one brand, there is such a price differential, don'tcha think? When Christy disputed the 10-25 cents difference over the bridge, I knew I was pretty sure then, I wouldn't get anywhere on this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Why Congressman Delahunt does not deserve to be re-elected
In response to: Why Congressman Delahunt does not deserve to be re-elected
I've gotten responses to email types of things. I do agree with Solon that agree or disagree with EMK, the staff is very responsive and effective.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
murrbuck, yeah I know, the original point of my post was the affordability gap because of the issue of wages here. I'm not sure I agree about there being a workforce available, let me share some more number from 2007-
Educational Attainment- bachelor's degree or higher
25-34
Barnstable County 40.3%
Massachusetts 46.2%
35-44
Barnstable County 39.8%
Massachusetts 42.7%
It's the older demographics that we have a higher percentage, not exactly the enticement needed.
And getting back to wages, the same 2007 census numbers show that the county is pretty close to the state average in median earning for those with a HS diploma or less. It's those with some college and above that get hit with the over the bridge difference:
first number is Barnstable County, second number is state median
Some college or associate's degree 31,384 37,165
Bachelor's degree 40,241 51,090
Graduate or professional degree 52,475 64,384
Educational Attainment- bachelor's degree or higher
25-34
Barnstable County 40.3%
Massachusetts 46.2%
35-44
Barnstable County 39.8%
Massachusetts 42.7%
It's the older demographics that we have a higher percentage, not exactly the enticement needed.
And getting back to wages, the same 2007 census numbers show that the county is pretty close to the state average in median earning for those with a HS diploma or less. It's those with some college and above that get hit with the over the bridge difference:
first number is Barnstable County, second number is state median
Some college or associate's degree 31,384 37,165
Bachelor's degree 40,241 51,090
Graduate or professional degree 52,475 64,384
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Abyss to Hell
In response to: Abyss to Hell
I especially like the part where you talk about liberals calling for cuts and layoffs. I don't think anyone is calling for it, it is a reality, which may be a strange concept to he Bush Administration that inherited a budget surplus, and turned it into hundred of billions more in deficits. I enjoy that as much as the, "it looks like the end of the world, but not really" stuff. I thougt the news that Ringo Starr has asked fans not to send any more mail to him, was the tipping point.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
kapekodda- just to go anecdote to anecdote, weren't a good number of employers this past summer and the one before, bemoaning the fact that they could not hire people, especially with the H2B limitations?
When affordable housing is created under Chapter 40B, the income guidelines state the person should be making no more than 80% if the Average Median Income. In Barnstable County that would be the following:
1 person- 40150
2 people- 45900
3 people- 53600
4 people- 57350
By that token, just about any single new teacher would qualify for affordable housing.
murrbuck- yeah, that was my point with the post. But I don't see it as a big business issue, isn't most job creation in this country due to small businesses? And in a chicken and egg type of thing, given the demographics here, what incentive is there for a large company to be here? Is there a workforce that could sustain it?
When affordable housing is created under Chapter 40B, the income guidelines state the person should be making no more than 80% if the Average Median Income. In Barnstable County that would be the following:
1 person- 40150
2 people- 45900
3 people- 53600
4 people- 57350
By that token, just about any single new teacher would qualify for affordable housing.
murrbuck- yeah, that was my point with the post. But I don't see it as a big business issue, isn't most job creation in this country due to small businesses? And in a chicken and egg type of thing, given the demographics here, what incentive is there for a large company to be here? Is there a workforce that could sustain it?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
I would be curious as to the broad range of prices that can be found from stations selling Gulf oil. A search on prices from the past 24 hours on massachusettsgasprices.com shows a range from a low of 2.79 to a high of 3.19 . The higher numbers naturally being on the Cape.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
I went to the ice.gov website and couldn't find those stats, so if you have a link for that, I'd appreciate it.
I did find on the website workingimmigrants.com a reference to a study done that says yes illegals depress wages by 8% among workers with less than a HS education and increases wages among more educated by 1%. But the thrust of this is not about illegals, it is about the general issue of depressed wages on Cape Cod, by a significant amount in comparison to the state average. Illegal immigrants have very little to do with that consistent difference.
But for those interested, this article - http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/807020304 speaks about how difficult it is to measure the total impact, and mentions that they could not find an impact study for Massachusetts.
I did find on the website workingimmigrants.com a reference to a study done that says yes illegals depress wages by 8% among workers with less than a HS education and increases wages among more educated by 1%. But the thrust of this is not about illegals, it is about the general issue of depressed wages on Cape Cod, by a significant amount in comparison to the state average. Illegal immigrants have very little to do with that consistent difference.
But for those interested, this article - http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/807020304 speaks about how difficult it is to measure the total impact, and mentions that they could not find an impact study for Massachusetts.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
Well Andy, with the difficulty in getting H2B now, shouldn't that begin to alleviate the issue? The stats I had were only as recent as 5/07; anecdotally I don't see much has changed. Perhaps over a longer term?
Actually, here is a story indicating that many foreigners are leaving the Cape- http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071226/NEWS/712260324
Actually, here is a story indicating that many foreigners are leaving the Cape- http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071226/NEWS/712260324
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
In response to: The Cape Economy- More than Gas Prices
I always enjoy a well thought out and documented response. Next?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Not me Mav, I'm on the same side as Christy on that. Lacking any other answer, I guess we can assume that the reason there is a quarter or more a gallon price differential between the rest of the state and the Cape in summer, is to make money on the tourists, too bad for the year rounders. Just one of the many ways it is made more difficult for people to stay here.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Christy, I've said on my own blog that there is plenty of blame to go around. I didn't say one party is responsible, I was merely pointing out that statistically, the economy has done better in Dem administrations, just going with the numbers.
And I think that daring me to file something with the AG's office, is hardly an answer as to why there is a 25 cent price difference in the summer that diminishes after the season. Now it's entirely possible Gulf charges you a different amount than they do on the other side of the bridge, but who knows. I just know what the numbers are.
And I think that daring me to file something with the AG's office, is hardly an answer as to why there is a 25 cent price difference in the summer that diminishes after the season. Now it's entirely possible Gulf charges you a different amount than they do on the other side of the bridge, but who knows. I just know what the numbers are.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
I don't dismiss it sir, I just don't think it fully accounts for the difference. You disputed that there was as much as a 25 cents a gallon difference; AAA claims otherwise. Now if you are acknowledging Buzz's point that we just have to understand and deal with the soak the tourist prices, that would be the most honest thing I've heard in a while.
And by the way, before you make the partisan point about Dems and profits, you ought to consider who's been running things this century. Ooops ;). A little research done in 2004 demonstrates otherwise - http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm, so chin up!
And by the way, before you make the partisan point about Dems and profits, you ought to consider who's been running things this century. Ooops ;). A little research done in 2004 demonstrates otherwise - http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm, so chin up!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Every development, in any town has multitude of hoops to jump through. While I appreciate your speaking specifically to some of the specifics of your stores, any gas station is going to go through a rigorous permitting process.
And again, it's welcome that your prices are now more competitve to those over the bridge. The reality is for people is that in the summer, there was a twenty six cent difference per gallon between the Cape and the state average. That difference is now down to a 16 cent difference and if this is like other years, will further decrease. It isn't hard to put the cause and effect together.
And again, it's welcome that your prices are now more competitve to those over the bridge. The reality is for people is that in the summer, there was a twenty six cent difference per gallon between the Cape and the state average. That difference is now down to a 16 cent difference and if this is like other years, will further decrease. It isn't hard to put the cause and effect together.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
I'm not sure how you can dispute the cost difference over the bridge, AAA statistics and multiple posts by people here over the past couple years confirms this. It's a fact.
We've heard much about higher expenses, but I've never seen anything that details what these expenses are that would result in such a large difference in price.
We've heard much about higher expenses, but I've never seen anything that details what these expenses are that would result in such a large difference in price.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Christy, I'm not making a partisan point, when I point out gas prices on the Cape, that included your stores in the summer, are higher than off-Cape. Kudos when you get them more competitive, but I don't think anyone would seriously dispute that during the summer. Cape prices were 25 cents higher than Boston prices one month ago, according to AAA. I've been blogging on this since 2006. And I know that it cost more for me to fill at Christy's in Orleans this September, even after a coupon, than I spent a couple days before in Plymouth. Rather than hosannas for being competitive, it's about time someone was. I'm guessing it's still not a loss leader, though we all seem to be helping deplete the whoopie pie supply also :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Shecky, the article was about Christy's, so yes I was specific. It's not as if the others are not as guilty, don't be silly and read something that isn't there. Cumby's is gawdawful on the same thing, heck it was 6 cents difference between Orleans and Brewster Cumby's last weekend, which in turn was much higher than Christy's in Hyannis. A plague on all their houses, Sheck.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
Bitter.... amen. Here's the thing with our leaders though, the cynicism is so engrained in people now, who has a chance?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The McCain-Palin Backlash
In response to: The McCain-Palin Backlash
Mav, I think it stands out more when Palin gets something wrong on the only topic she has claimed to be an expert on. You can't lose your street cred on the one topic you keep talking about ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
In response to: Christy lowers the price (again)
Still doesn't explain why Christy's prices were 25 cents or more higher than off-Cape in the not so distant past. The latest AAA stats still show Cape prices on average, 14 cents more per gallon than the Boston area.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The McCain-Palin Backlash
In response to: The McCain-Palin Backlash
What are they doing to Sarah? The woman is unqualified. She's even getting questions wrong about energy policy, which was the certain je ne sais quoi she supposed had? Not to mention that Obama-Biden have never said anything personal about Palin, to the extent that she has.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
Oh I know Walter loves it, lol.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
I think I'm pretty much at the point of deleting all the responses that have nothing to do with anything. Take it offline, if you would like to carry on about whatever in blazes you all are carrying on about. Thanks.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
Buzz- uh huh, that "great writer" that was suspended for plagarism? That's pretty funny. Jacoby is just warmed over right wing talking points, and Barney is a favorite target, gay, talks funny and in your face. I said from the get go, there is plenty of blame to go around, for a lot of people in both parties and financial institutions. Why didn't the GOP pass a bill all those years, they were in charge of everything? When the House flipped, Frank passed a bill through his committee and passed the House.
Even one of the links in Jacoby's story reveals his careless handling of the facts, in regards to opposing the bill from 2003- "Committee members were ready to support legislation that would give the Treasury Department oversight of Fannie and Freddie, as the administration has sought, Frank said, not power over the companies' housing activities, which are regulated by the Department of Housing and Urban Development." Between that and repeating the incorrect assertion that the CRA is another guilty party to this, Jacoby is once again, easily dismissed. See- http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis .
Even one of the links in Jacoby's story reveals his careless handling of the facts, in regards to opposing the bill from 2003- "Committee members were ready to support legislation that would give the Treasury Department oversight of Fannie and Freddie, as the administration has sought, Frank said, not power over the companies' housing activities, which are regulated by the Department of Housing and Urban Development." Between that and repeating the incorrect assertion that the CRA is another guilty party to this, Jacoby is once again, easily dismissed. See- http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis .
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
I know Mav, but I couldn't resist ;)
Buzz, it's almost sport on other blogs to easily discredit Jacoby. It's as if the Globe picked someone as their token conservative, someone so ridiculous, as to make the point obvious. What a surprise, the GOP is against a group that represents people that are poor, people of color, under represented people. And the FBI has never been used for political purposes, right ;) ?
Meanwhile, the cold fact remains that the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House from Jan 2001-Jan 2007.
Buzz, it's almost sport on other blogs to easily discredit Jacoby. It's as if the Globe picked someone as their token conservative, someone so ridiculous, as to make the point obvious. What a surprise, the GOP is against a group that represents people that are poor, people of color, under represented people. And the FBI has never been used for political purposes, right ;) ?
Meanwhile, the cold fact remains that the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House from Jan 2001-Jan 2007.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
Buzz,still on ACORN I see, lol. I mean, that's so out there in wingnut land, even the McCain campaign hasn't gone there and lawd knows they will say anything at this point. Swat- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/smears-contradicted-obama_n_132098.html?page=2&show_comment_id=16498485#comment_16498485 and swat-http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor .
Mav, here's your Barney rebuttal- http://mediamatters.org/items/200810070033?f=h_top .
I especially enjoy the part about the Bush Administration asking Fannie and Freddie to increase their affordable housing goals. Remarkable how much people want to blame someone who was in the minority party for the first 6 years of the Bush Administration.
Mav, here's your Barney rebuttal- http://mediamatters.org/items/200810070033?f=h_top .
I especially enjoy the part about the Bush Administration asking Fannie and Freddie to increase their affordable housing goals. Remarkable how much people want to blame someone who was in the minority party for the first 6 years of the Bush Administration.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
In response to: McCain-Obama 2... same as it ever was
I do wonder what is going through McCain's heart of hearts right now. I said to someone today that I thought the McCain of 2000 would have been a far more formidble and effective presence. I do think that he has lost that sense of honor that attracted him to independents, which face it, is where the election is decided. There is anger, bitterness and disdain that is palpable. When I mentioned in my original post about Kerry not getting traction from winning his debates, a good part of that has to do with likeability and Kerry's persona is not one that plays well in a lot of areas of the country.The smartest kid in class usually isn't class president ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
Mav, probably just the first 2 of many, I would guess. There is an irony in asking for the same terms given to the Wall Street suits. Now the easy headline is why are we asking for a loan, but read the following - http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/06/facing-shortfall-massachusetts-asks-about-a-federal-loan/ and one gets a sense as to why, with the credit crisis, the question came up.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
You are assuming that the relationships are equal?
Regardless of that, the point is there is plenty of the same "guilt by some level of association" game to be played against McCain and Palin.
Regardless of that, the point is there is plenty of the same "guilt by some level of association" game to be played against McCain and Palin.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
In response to: It's the Economy, Stupid Part Deux
Bit... read that article I linked to from Rolling Stone and you'll have your answer. In addition, the Obama campaign put out a website today - KeatingEconomics.com .
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Mav- could be that McCain genuinely did not like Mitt. I can't buy the idea that it was a gambit to place a woman on the ticket, when there are other, more qualified women in the GOP who would fit the bill. Mitt does not strike me as someone that would take well to being second dog on the sled?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
lol, nope but nice try... you still don't get it
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Buzz, don't get so upset because you use a bogus poll, that you actually offered that up as legit is wildly entertaining.
Of course you're a little confused. Most people around understand campaign hyperbole. Think about how hard Mitt campaigned to get picked for veep. And now think about the rancor that existed in the primaries between those 2 campaigns. People get it, you don't. You want those quotes or not :)?
Of course you're a little confused. Most people around understand campaign hyperbole. Think about how hard Mitt campaigned to get picked for veep. And now think about the rancor that existed in the primaries between those 2 campaigns. People get it, you don't. You want those quotes or not :)?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
I think I would go with a scientific poll result, versus, an online poll that anyone can go to, as many times as they want? I also cited the CBS poll of undecideds in my original post. And for humor, enjoy the following-
http://www.adennak.com/archives/palinflow.gif
http://www.adennak.com/archives/palinflow.gif
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Buzz, statements are also like what I said about stereotypes. Would you like a long list of utterly ridiculous things McCain has said over the years? Hell, even in the past year, there are some whoppers. Let me know, I got them queued up.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
lol, AOL poll.... oh come on, you know how those polls go... "hurry! go to and vote for so and so in the online poll!" Very scientific.
Bean and Buzz, enjoy your class warfare. As always, one can find a stereotype anecdotally to support anything, but like all stereotypes, they're pretty much worthless to consider seriously.
Bean and Buzz, enjoy your class warfare. As always, one can find a stereotype anecdotally to support anything, but like all stereotypes, they're pretty much worthless to consider seriously.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
I must say I did read an interesting article this morning, now I forget where, speculating on how much better off McCain would be nationally if he had picked Romney. Given the economic crisis, he would have been far better served with Romney, and McCain wouldn't be pulling out of Michigan.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
I would say that Palin is being packaged and portrays herself as, I don't know, the common person? I don't see how anyone could see that in McCain, from a serious look at the man's history. Sure Palin comes across as someone you would see at the rink or soccer field, rooting their kid on. I would also say that most of us that do that with our kids, aren't necessarily qualified for the vice presidency.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Buzz- I'm well aware of what McCain says now, versus his voting record and statements over the past 26 years. Casting himself as the populist protector against corporate America is not only putting lipstick on a pig, it adds on a pedicure and perhaps a lovely bonnet. Biden had it right on the mark, listing all the ways that McCain is NOT a maverick, based on McCain's record.
You know Beantown, I don't know what America looks like, but I do know that depending on where one lives, it is easy to see things in terms of class warfare. There are all sorts of ways that "those" people have been villified over the years, fill in whatever demographic you want. It really doesn't solve anything. There are a lot of people that I disagree with, even vehemently, but I hope it's not class warfare.
Though it is a funny thought that McCain, owner of 8 houses and 13 cars, would appeal to a demographic anything close to what you described.
You know Beantown, I don't know what America looks like, but I do know that depending on where one lives, it is easy to see things in terms of class warfare. There are all sorts of ways that "those" people have been villified over the years, fill in whatever demographic you want. It really doesn't solve anything. There are a lot of people that I disagree with, even vehemently, but I hope it's not class warfare.
Though it is a funny thought that McCain, owner of 8 houses and 13 cars, would appeal to a demographic anything close to what you described.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Buzz- breath of fresh air? She didn't say anything. And you are welcome to go to barackobama.com and spend the day reading position papers. If all you want to do is catch buzz phrases, no pun intended, that's all you'll get.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bailout plan one big scam--a good hangin' needed
In response to: Bailout plan one big scam--a good hangin' needed
Well Mav, always good to make homophobic jokes, huh?
I know it's nice for the wingnuts to repeat the talking points, so they have something, even non-original to say. Actually Barney has passed one more regulation bill than George Bush could with a GOP Congress.
Now mind you, I don't like the current package, like the Senate one even less, sa I have written elsewhere. Now mind you, Solon's remedy is a compendium of hoohah, boiled down to a let's string 'em up response that will do nothing for the realities of the economic crisis. Where I agree is that Congress should not be pushed into a bad bill, which is why I respect the position that Bill Delahunt is taking in opposing it.
I think princess has possee doing her math.... that could not be further off.
I know it's nice for the wingnuts to repeat the talking points, so they have something, even non-original to say. Actually Barney has passed one more regulation bill than George Bush could with a GOP Congress.
Now mind you, I don't like the current package, like the Senate one even less, sa I have written elsewhere. Now mind you, Solon's remedy is a compendium of hoohah, boiled down to a let's string 'em up response that will do nothing for the realities of the economic crisis. Where I agree is that Congress should not be pushed into a bad bill, which is why I respect the position that Bill Delahunt is taking in opposing it.
I think princess has possee doing her math.... that could not be further off.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
JB... covered that already. For abut the18th time, I've said there is plenty to go around on both sides. Now rather than repeat the freeper talking points, ask why George Bush could not pass a bill to supposedly regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under a GOP Congress? When the Dems took the House in '06 elections, a bill was passed by May '07.
And by the way, good strategy. Take the cynical view that nothing can ever change, so might as well stay with the solid foundation of policies we've had from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave the past 7 1/2 years. That's worked out so well!
And by the way, good strategy. Take the cynical view that nothing can ever change, so might as well stay with the solid foundation of policies we've had from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave the past 7 1/2 years. That's worked out so well!
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In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
In response to: The Veep Debate and the Bailout
Ummm Ned, I rarely go to Kos or Salon, thanks. And writing at midnight when I get up at 4:30, I wasn't gunning for the Pulitzer at that hour. And you can stand to read a little better also, I never said anything about gay marriage, and neither did they. As far as the bailout, watching Lou Dobbs last night got my dander going on that.
Besides, when writing about Sarah Palin, you can only rise so far above the material ;).
My thought for the morning was that it was rather scary that 38% of those polled thought she did better than Biden. I guess there is a certain audience in America that is impressed that Alaska has oil? Surely it's not a yahoo factor....
Also from the CNN poll, one place where the difference between Biden and Palin comes out is from the following:
"On the question of the candidates' qualifications to assume the presidency, 87 percent of those polled said Biden is qualified and 42 percent said Palin is qualified."
Game, set and match.
Besides, when writing about Sarah Palin, you can only rise so far above the material ;).
My thought for the morning was that it was rather scary that 38% of those polled thought she did better than Biden. I guess there is a certain audience in America that is impressed that Alaska has oil? Surely it's not a yahoo factor....
Also from the CNN poll, one place where the difference between Biden and Palin comes out is from the following:
"On the question of the candidates' qualifications to assume the presidency, 87 percent of those polled said Biden is qualified and 42 percent said Palin is qualified."
Game, set and match.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Stop & Shop rebrands, Christy's offers discount
In response to: Stop & Shop rebrands, Christy's offers discount
Buzz- Mihos gets his gas from Gulf, not exactly a Jed Clampett operation, so I find his response to you, ummmmm, less than enlightening, to be diplomatic about it.
I also echo what Andy says. It amazes me how, for the privilege of living on the sandbar, we get to pay more for housing, gas, food, etc., while people are paid substantially less than they would for the same job elsewhere. I don't get it, but if you want to point at the primary reason younger folks leave the Cape, there you go.
I also echo what Andy says. It amazes me how, for the privilege of living on the sandbar, we get to pay more for housing, gas, food, etc., while people are paid substantially less than they would for the same job elsewhere. I don't get it, but if you want to point at the primary reason younger folks leave the Cape, there you go.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Beatty blasts Kerry for Fannie and Freddie contributions
In response to: Beatty blasts Kerry for Fannie and Freddie contributions
Does Beatty want McCain to return the $169K that he's gotten from Fannie Mae?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
As I've stated correctly, there is enough blame to go around. Let's point out that until 2007, the GOP controlled Congress. The Bush Administration could not agree with the GOP chair of the House Financial Services committee chair, Michael Oxley, on a bill. Further, the Bush Administration took steps to stop state attorney generals from going after companies which engaged in predatory practices- http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/content/2008/sep/20/bush-administration-fought-consumer-protection/news-opinion/
Upon assuming the chairmanship, Frank introduced HR1427, which passed in the House by a 313-104 vote in May 2007.
Upon assuming the chairmanship, Frank introduced HR1427, which passed in the House by a 313-104 vote in May 2007.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Not to mention people that make assumptions....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Discussion like what? Feel free to contribute....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
From Wikipedia, there are 138 million taxpayers in the country, so you can bump that up at a little, but it may only bail you into a new wide screen tv ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Palin doing her part to drag McCain down
In response to: Palin doing her part to drag McCain down
.... and I thought I could rant
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
Hmmm 126K... hmmmm...
"At least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11781.html
Then you might want to check out this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5oN3spj8rY so you can see that actually, McCain has gotten more contributions from them than Obama.
It really does pay to do your homework thoroughly.
"At least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11781.html
Then you might want to check out this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5oN3spj8rY so you can see that actually, McCain has gotten more contributions from them than Obama.
It really does pay to do your homework thoroughly.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
Except, of course Buzz, that he isn't an advisor- http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/09/obamas_fannie_mae_connection.html
You really need to stop parroting the right wing talking points. Now would you like to get back to McCain's campaign chair being paid through August of this year by Freddie Mac? http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218
You really need to stop parroting the right wing talking points. Now would you like to get back to McCain's campaign chair being paid through August of this year by Freddie Mac? http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
That's all well and good Buzz, and still has very little to do with the Wall Street crisis. It's a lovely right wing talking point, that's for sure, but as is often the case, not based in fact. http://mediamatters.org/items/200809300012?f=h_popular
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
Buzz, I don't think the CRA is responsible for this mess. The GOP (with some Dem help) were the prime movers behind deregulation, there was looser money and the big guys decided to turn the faucet on to everyone.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
In response to: Rolling the Dice on the Rescue Plan
Thank you capemom, with each succeeding visual, I got to cringe more.
Buzz, I did read the article, and disagree with several of the premises put forth. That said, one of the basic questions one has to ask is - since Wall Street got itself into so much trouble and now Wall Street wants this rescue plan, is that a good idea? Here's what makes me concerned - first, just calling it a "bailout" is a huge mistake. It's pretty easy to say, "hey, where's MY bailout?" No one has adequately explained how, if this does not pass, it will affect the average person. Here's one brief story: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/five-key-areas-bailout-hit/story.aspx?guid=%7bE9AB1F27-E5A7-461A-8E6E-09092E509973%7d&print=true&dist=printMidSection
Buzz, I did read the article, and disagree with several of the premises put forth. That said, one of the basic questions one has to ask is - since Wall Street got itself into so much trouble and now Wall Street wants this rescue plan, is that a good idea? Here's what makes me concerned - first, just calling it a "bailout" is a huge mistake. It's pretty easy to say, "hey, where's MY bailout?" No one has adequately explained how, if this does not pass, it will affect the average person. Here's one brief story: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/five-key-areas-bailout-hit/story.aspx?guid=%7bE9AB1F27-E5A7-461A-8E6E-09092E509973%7d&print=true&dist=printMidSection
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Delahunt's reasons for voting against bailout
In response to: Delahunt's reasons for voting against bailout
What is clear is that many people think they understand what is going on by headlines and an express of emails. What is also clear is that there is a complete vacuum of leadership, as you have a sitting president, both major party candidates and the Congressional leadership of both parties advocating for a bill, and cannot pass it.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Santa Paulson's coming to town
In response to: Santa Paulson's coming to town
There is a disconnect between people not caring what happens to those "Wall Street types" and the ultimate implications to average Americans. No one has really explained that well, so the buzz is that this is the Wall Street bailout. If the credit market does not get relief, the old saying that a recession is what happens when it's someone else, a depression is when it happens to you, will be more fully realized.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Why McCain lost the debate
In response to: Why McCain lost the debate
Thank you Fran, refreshing to hear your point of view.
umassjsp.... yeah, the whole Bush thing ha worked out pretty well, don't ya think? Well 19% of the people do anyway.
umassjsp.... yeah, the whole Bush thing ha worked out pretty well, don't ya think? Well 19% of the people do anyway.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
possee- you understand that the only people that get bailed out are those with money in the first place. I don't know what email you are referring to, but as is the case with most of these, I'll just assume it is rife with inaccuracies. Clinton left the budget in surplus, it wasn't that long ago. Even McCain, who once said you don't cut taxes when you are having a war, rolled over on that. Dem and Republican, the system is fouled with lobbyists and the need to raise money for campaigns.
The GOP wanted deregulation to free up corporate America and we would all prosper. That failed, a point that has been made over and over, in bailout after bailout. I also blame the Dems for too many times of going along, or being wholly ineffective in traditional Democratic values.
The GOP wanted deregulation to free up corporate America and we would all prosper. That failed, a point that has been made over and over, in bailout after bailout. I also blame the Dems for too many times of going along, or being wholly ineffective in traditional Democratic values.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: 1983: Cape Cod Trains to run again; 1985: Cape's prosperity is squeezing out the workers
In response to: 1983: Cape Cod Trains to run again; 1985: Cape's prosperity is squeezing out the workers
I had occasion a few years ago to hear Dukakis up at Northeastern University. As a former resident of Brookline, and member of the Dem Town Committee, our paths had crossed on a number of occasions. I re-introduced myself, he asked what I was up to and I mentioned I was living on the Cape now. Next thing out of his mouth- "When are we going to get the commuter rail down to the Cape!"
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Well aside from the right wing talking points that money is going to ACORN being wrong, ( money goes to state and locals, they decide, a concept that most Republicans endorse, except when they don't), you all can read the following to know about ACORN, what they do and how they actually got the money returned from this one scandal- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-atlas/acorn-under-the-microscop_b_112503.html .
You see, because ACORN fights successfully for the poor folks, it is anthemic to right wing. If the basis as to whether some group gets money is how clean their noses are, well then, this bailout and a lot of others don't pass that sniff test, do they?
Buzz, the original agreement was blown up by the House GOP. Now we may need to wait a few months for McCain to read the new version, as apparently he received the 3 page doc on Monday, but on Tuesday said, he hadn't had a chance to read it yet.
You see, because ACORN fights successfully for the poor folks, it is anthemic to right wing. If the basis as to whether some group gets money is how clean their noses are, well then, this bailout and a lot of others don't pass that sniff test, do they?
Buzz, the original agreement was blown up by the House GOP. Now we may need to wait a few months for McCain to read the new version, as apparently he received the 3 page doc on Monday, but on Tuesday said, he hadn't had a chance to read it yet.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Buzz, when you ask what we will get from Obama and Biden, versus McCain, come on now, you can't be serious. Do you want more of the past 8 years or a significant change in direction? When you quote Barney Frank, we can play that game of look who said what - there was a clip of the Treasure Secretary in March talking about how he had such total faith in the Market. That would be March 2008, not 2003. And as I've said, there is plenty of blame to go around, including Democrats without the spine to be real Dems, and not pseudo Republicans.
Now Rocky, I do love when people drop in wingnut talking points out of the blue. When Obama was born, he was by birth, a citizen of the U.S. and guess whom - the British Empire! Kenya was still under the Brits. When Kenya gained it's independence, Obama's dual citizenship automatically switched and remained in effect by law til he was 21, when it automatically expired by law also. Wasn't that fascinating and relevant?
Now Rocky, I do love when people drop in wingnut talking points out of the blue. When Obama was born, he was by birth, a citizen of the U.S. and guess whom - the British Empire! Kenya was still under the Brits. When Kenya gained it's independence, Obama's dual citizenship automatically switched and remained in effect by law til he was 21, when it automatically expired by law also. Wasn't that fascinating and relevant?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Buzz- as I said, but for the economy and the debate, her horrible interview with Couric would be the the news buzz. As it is, as I linked, even the GOP has an awful feeling about her. It's well past what my impression was of her from the get go, it's what people are talking about and evidenced in her rapidly declining poll numbers.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
They couldn't even trust Palin to make talking points after the debate. Ouch.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
In response to: Obama Scores on McCain's Turf
Oh come on Ned, of all the legitimate things one can criticize about, there's nothing there.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
Mav, I stand by what I already said, there is plenty of blame to go around is my take on it and I don't pass as any expert on the housing crisis. Both parties and candidates have mixed records and numerous connections.
Ummm Buzz, that was a genuinely bonehead Biden statement. Probably not as bad as McCain calling the economy fundamentally sound, I'd give more of a pass to a historical inaccuracy 80 years old, versus something staring you in the face today. I mean, McCain was so bad the past couple of weeks, the Sunday ABC crew felt the need to raise the age issue on McCain.
Ummm Buzz, that was a genuinely bonehead Biden statement. Probably not as bad as McCain calling the economy fundamentally sound, I'd give more of a pass to a historical inaccuracy 80 years old, versus something staring you in the face today. I mean, McCain was so bad the past couple of weeks, the Sunday ABC crew felt the need to raise the age issue on McCain.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
McCain was graded a D, by the group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, Obama and Biden both a B+. There were 155 Senate votes that went into that grading. The group Disabled American Veterans gave McCain a score of 20%, Obama 80%.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
Ned- I think I doubt that, nothing I can find on it. Mind you, the GOP has regularly inflated crowd numbers, the fire rescue crowd estimated the crowd at half the size the local GOP did, but we know the GOP ain't so good on numbers ;). The usual staged event for Palin, a community with retired military, no questions, no press.
Bottom line what we know about the financial crisis - the GOP and especially McCain has historically been for deregulation. Basically McCain wants people to ignore his entire history so he can again have things both ways. Flippity floppity.
Mind you, there is plenty of blame to go around. At least no one is allowing the Bush Administration to fly through their version of "relief". Buried in that provision is a section that gives the Treasury Secretary complete and unreviewable control over what happens - Congress can't do anything, the judicial cannot do anything.
As if THAT's going to happen....
Bottom line what we know about the financial crisis - the GOP and especially McCain has historically been for deregulation. Basically McCain wants people to ignore his entire history so he can again have things both ways. Flippity floppity.
Mind you, there is plenty of blame to go around. At least no one is allowing the Bush Administration to fly through their version of "relief". Buried in that provision is a section that gives the Treasury Secretary complete and unreviewable control over what happens - Congress can't do anything, the judicial cannot do anything.
As if THAT's going to happen....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
He left the GOP in '07, amidst the rumors of him running as an Independent.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
I actually bothered to refute what you presented, I guess you didn't have anything. And the cites made on Obama's website came from external sources. The straight talk express is gassed and the wheels have fallen out, McCain is pretty much subject to constant ridicule for his flip flops and misstatements, even George Will called him out this weekend.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
Swat again...starting with an article written by a McCain adviser, might have a different pov than reality? All McCain did was sign on as a co-sponsor to a weak bill that would not have averted the problem. Hassett belonged to a group, the American Enterprise Institute that opposed the stronger House version of the bill. McCain never did sign on to the revised bill.
Reality- they both have plenty of ties to Fannie Mae.
Reality- they both have plenty of ties to Fannie Mae.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
lmao, I see having swatted your arguments away easily enough,you bailed, that's fine... I've already noted that McCain is known for not submitting earmarks. This makes the selection of Palin all the more hypocritical. Of course keeping track of all the flip flops and hypocritical things coming from McCain is chore enough.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
Per capita, there is no contest whatsoever between the amount spent on earmarks in Alaska, under Palin, versus Illinois. Or as the WSJ says-
It is difficult to compare Sen. Obama's earmark record with Gov. Palin's -- their states differ in size, for instance, and the two candidates play different roles in the process. But using the same calculation that the McCain campaign uses, the total amount of earmarked dollars divided by the number of working days while each held office (assuming a five-day workweek, every week, for both), Gov. Palin sought $980,000 per workday, compared with roughly $893,000 for Sen. Obama.
Ooops again, Buzz.
Yeah, there is a difference when your state gets about $500 per person in earmarks with no income or sales tax (Alaska), versus the $79 per person people in IL got from Obama earmarks. And the number is staggeringly high for her time as Mayor, about $1,000 per person.
Again, no charge....
It is difficult to compare Sen. Obama's earmark record with Gov. Palin's -- their states differ in size, for instance, and the two candidates play different roles in the process. But using the same calculation that the McCain campaign uses, the total amount of earmarked dollars divided by the number of working days while each held office (assuming a five-day workweek, every week, for both), Gov. Palin sought $980,000 per workday, compared with roughly $893,000 for Sen. Obama.
Ooops again, Buzz.
Yeah, there is a difference when your state gets about $500 per person in earmarks with no income or sales tax (Alaska), versus the $79 per person people in IL got from Obama earmarks. And the number is staggeringly high for her time as Mayor, about $1,000 per person.
Again, no charge....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What We Know
In response to: What We Know
Yawwwwwnnnnnnn- http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/20/fact_check_present_votes_are_a.php
No charge for the education.
No charge for the education.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Buzz, yet another failed analogy on your part. People in Alaska were not asked to vote for her as Vice President. And again, please remember that the entire population of Alaska would not crack the top 30 largest cities in America. And I didn't know you belonged to Wright's church to speak in such an all knowing manner, lol. Well, I see from others, your frame of reference has been questioned, so you can fight that battle. Mind you, the discussion about your inclinations would pretty much stop at your original comment on this thread.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Buzz- if nothing else, we can count on you to be intellectually dishonest. As if Obama has only been a community organizer? Running out of straws, I see.
And fact.. she has attended past AIP conventions. Fact, she sent her warm greetings to their convention while governor. Fact, it is the 3rd largest party in Alaska. Fact, her husband was a member. Fact, the website has a large pullquote from their founder expressing hatred of this country. Maybe you are happy with your VP candidate showing once again that she is comfortable with extremists.
Fact..."I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!"
Sarah Palin
Maybe you can buy one of those "Joe Was Right" t-shirts on their website :)
And fact.. she has attended past AIP conventions. Fact, she sent her warm greetings to their convention while governor. Fact, it is the 3rd largest party in Alaska. Fact, her husband was a member. Fact, the website has a large pullquote from their founder expressing hatred of this country. Maybe you are happy with your VP candidate showing once again that she is comfortable with extremists.
Fact..."I'm delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. ... Keep up the good work!"
Sarah Palin
Maybe you can buy one of those "Joe Was Right" t-shirts on their website :)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
You see Buzz, the world is not an either/or choice. The basic premise of equating Wright and the AIP is flawed anyway, Obama's choice to be involved or not be involved was based on his body of knowledge of Wright. Ultimately his choice was to distance himself. I will again point out that Palin herself has not belonged, but her actions and words have never disavowed any of the anti-Americanism in that group. Further, as I stated, if Michelle Obama was a member of some extreme group, I'm quite sure you and others would be screaming guilt by association. Yet no one says anything about Mr. Palin's membership.
It is one of several ways in which one can point out Palin's comfort with extremist postions. This is further exacerbated by her penchant for punishing those opposed to her extreme agenda. This is an inflexible person, with a limited knowledge of issues facing this country.
It is one of several ways in which one can point out Palin's comfort with extremist postions. This is further exacerbated by her penchant for punishing those opposed to her extreme agenda. This is an inflexible person, with a limited knowledge of issues facing this country.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
So of course you would applaud Obama for saying that, as apparently Wright is the devil himself in your eyes. So to be consistent, I'm guessing you should have Palin refute the AIP? Just to be consistent, of course. And the media should make as big a deal of that as they did Wright, again, just to be consistent. There's no racism involved in any of that, right?
If Sarah Palin was a white male, NO ONE would find her qualified.
If Sarah Palin was a white male, NO ONE would find her qualified.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Buzz- I never said Palin belonged to the AIP. But you knew that. What I protested is her association with that group that apparently celebrates hatred of America. As people have pointed out, you seem to have no idea as to the context of things Wright has said, but this guy does-
"As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say 'That's a terrible statement!' ... I grew up in a very segregated South. And I think that you have to cut some slack -- and I'm gonna be probably the only conservative in America who's gonna say something like this, but I'm just tellin' you -- we've gotta cut some slack to people who grew up being called names..."
That would be Mike Huckabee.
"As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say 'That's a terrible statement!' ... I grew up in a very segregated South. And I think that you have to cut some slack -- and I'm gonna be probably the only conservative in America who's gonna say something like this, but I'm just tellin' you -- we've gotta cut some slack to people who grew up being called names..."
That would be Mike Huckabee.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Buzz- the video is not her only association with the group. She has never been registered as anything but Republican, but she has attended conventions, and her husband was a member. Fair would be the hypocratic outrage is Michelle Obama belonged to such a group. The pull quote on hatred of this country is on their website. Why would someone have anything to do with that?
Palin would fit right in with the current administration, as she shows no remorse about continuing to to lie about the Bridge, and significantly overestimating the amount of energy Alaska produces for this country. This continues despite being confronted with the truth, because the lemmings will follow. Truth just gets in the way.
Palin would fit right in with the current administration, as she shows no remorse about continuing to to lie about the Bridge, and significantly overestimating the amount of energy Alaska produces for this country. This continues despite being confronted with the truth, because the lemmings will follow. Truth just gets in the way.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Funny stuff Buzz.... I guess when I showed you the quote on that "fringe" party's website about hatred of the United States, to you, that is innocuous. Mind you, that was not the only time she has played footsies with them. She's an extremist by words and deeds, honest people recognize that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
In response to: Racism is alive in Republican circles
Well incipient, McCain was at one of those very summits in 2007, must be his kind of people. McCain and Palin were invited, but declined the invite and FRC declined the campaign offer of a video greeting from Palin. They could just send the one she made for the fringe group in Alaska.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Work Out with your Jerk Out
In response to: Work Out with your Jerk Out
Trendy glasses? Well maybe in an updated, sort of Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie way....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: H2B or No H2B? That is the Question
In response to: H2B or No H2B? That is the Question
Amen Shecky, workers here get shafted on wages and bennies, in general. Yet, oddly enough, one pays more to live here, a strange inverse relationship.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Sarah-Hillary Show debuts, plus Maureen Dowd and Dan Kennedy
In response to: The Sarah-Hillary Show debuts, plus Maureen Dowd and Dan Kennedy
umass.... if you are backing O'Reilly, I can think of nothing funnier than a guy that quit school committee because it was too much work, running for Senate. As Charles Gibson put it to Palin, doesn't that take some hubris?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Stop Attacking Palin!
In response to: Stop Attacking Palin!
I'd be more concerned about anyone that has necrophiliac friends.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Obama and Biden voted for $223 million Bridge to Nowhere earmark instead of funding for Katrina rebuilding
In response to: Obama and Biden voted for $223 million Bridge to Nowhere earmark instead of funding for Katrina rebuilding
I hate being asleep at the wheel, but I'm quite sure that Obama does not need to defend his record on Katrina- http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/when-the-cameras-are-off-barack-obamas-hurricane-katrina-record/
And I think it's well known that Palin was for the bridge until it became known that there was an outcry against it, and that Alaska would have to actually spend some money on the project. Clear as a bell.
Now it should be acknowledged that McCain never supports earmarks. How he picks the Governor that requests more per capita in earmarks is amusing. Could be the influence of all the former lobbyists in his campaign? It's not like McCain hasn't sold out on any number of things since his loss in 2000.
And I think it's well known that Palin was for the bridge until it became known that there was an outcry against it, and that Alaska would have to actually spend some money on the project. Clear as a bell.
Now it should be acknowledged that McCain never supports earmarks. How he picks the Governor that requests more per capita in earmarks is amusing. Could be the influence of all the former lobbyists in his campaign? It's not like McCain hasn't sold out on any number of things since his loss in 2000.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: John Kerry- going with the devil you know
In response to: John Kerry- going with the devil you know
I would question the term "substantive". Further, I could put up a web site chalk full of positions and it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans. O'Reilly has nothing in his background to suggest he could do the job, having had an undistinguished career on City Council and School Committee. Heck, he's even contributed to Kerry's campaigns. If you want to respond to the Kerry release, go for it - seems pretty specific examples of making things up, which as we know, is the M.O. of the GOP. I guess O'Reilly has the same sense of honor as McCain.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: John Kerry- going with the devil you know
In response to: John Kerry- going with the devil you know
I think all the diapers should be donated to the Palins, no? Thanks for the set up.
And you're right, at least O'Reilly is not taking credit for things that are known to be false, as some folks are prone to, even today - http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/09/09/palin_lies_could_lead_to_bridg.html
I know Mav, it's kind of hard to dispute the sheer volume of misinformation the GOP puts out there. I don't blame you for being confuzzled. That's why I've held back on even more :).
And you're right, at least O'Reilly is not taking credit for things that are known to be false, as some folks are prone to, even today - http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/09/09/palin_lies_could_lead_to_bridg.html
I know Mav, it's kind of hard to dispute the sheer volume of misinformation the GOP puts out there. I don't blame you for being confuzzled. That's why I've held back on even more :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: 20¢ a gallon gas discount coupon program will end Sept. 18
In response to: 20¢ a gallon gas discount coupon program will end Sept. 18
Holy crap, I have to agree with Buzz..... Just looked up Christy's price for the station on the corner or Willow St and Rt 28.... 3.79. I paid 3.52 this Sunday at the Shell off exit 5 in Plymouth. Same old rip off on the Cape, Christy is no different.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
Mav- it changed the dynamics, simply from being unexpected. There aren't many surprises in politics, so when you are able to inject something different in the mix, it does get you attention you would not have otherwise had. I agree with the premise that there will be no in between on this - one of those chess gambits that can steal a game, or quickly turn against you.
And for the record, I have posted in opposition to Cape Wind plan. I am not necessarily opposed to utilizing wind energy from the Sound, but do not feel comfortable about the process and plan that resulted in Cape Wind. For starters, it's OUR property, if we are to give it away, at least there should be an open and competitive bid process?
And for the record, I have posted in opposition to Cape Wind plan. I am not necessarily opposed to utilizing wind energy from the Sound, but do not feel comfortable about the process and plan that resulted in Cape Wind. For starters, it's OUR property, if we are to give it away, at least there should be an open and competitive bid process?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Ten reasons I like Sarah Palin
In response to: Ten reasons I like Sarah Palin
Actually Mav, I started posting again after running into Walter well before that, but anyhow....
I didn't think it was my fault that Palin lent herself so well to being a target. Let her actually have to answer some hard questions, other than softballs from Charlie Gibson, lol.
Solon- ohhhh I get it, you can just generally call people dumb whining pissants, just not by name. I get it. Aren't you just annoyed by "those" people that think they can hide behind their own hypocrisy by speaking in generalities? You know "them"....? "They" don't have a face or name, but surely "they" are out there. Maybe we can start handing out team jersies so we know which "them" they are.
I didn't think it was my fault that Palin lent herself so well to being a target. Let her actually have to answer some hard questions, other than softballs from Charlie Gibson, lol.
Solon- ohhhh I get it, you can just generally call people dumb whining pissants, just not by name. I get it. Aren't you just annoyed by "those" people that think they can hide behind their own hypocrisy by speaking in generalities? You know "them"....? "They" don't have a face or name, but surely "they" are out there. Maybe we can start handing out team jersies so we know which "them" they are.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Ten reasons I like Sarah Palin
In response to: Ten reasons I like Sarah Palin
Funny thing is, there was a Pew Research report done that indicated the most informed people about the state of the world were daily newspaper readers annnnnnnnd.... viewers of The Daily Show and Colbert Report. Here's your linky- http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions .
Hmmm, there must be more than one Solon, as the one who whined about being called on for his vapid rebuttal of Palin's "qualifications" would NEVER call people dumb, whining, pissants.
CNN's poll is a dead heat. They explained that their polling has always had fewer "don't knows", therefore less movement.
Hmmm, there must be more than one Solon, as the one who whined about being called on for his vapid rebuttal of Palin's "qualifications" would NEVER call people dumb, whining, pissants.
CNN's poll is a dead heat. They explained that their polling has always had fewer "don't knows", therefore less movement.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The United States of Cynicism
In response to: The United States of Cynicism
Well then, why would he have to say that? The man shouldn't have uttered a darned thing, or written anything either. It's 2008 and surely someone would question ole Ben... Mr Franklin, you once said... 'Well done....", then how can you explain the voluminous pronounciations you have made over the years, shouldn't you have spent more time taking your own advice?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
They might, but it's far more speculative than with a candidate that voted with Bush 90% of the time.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
If you don't think living in differnet cultures exposes you to things that are valuable, that is your perogative. Majoring in international relations... big whoop. But he has traveled extensively. Ultimately, much of the success of a president has to do with one's life experiences impacting their judgment on a variety of issues, and on that, I have considerably more faith in the direction Obama would take, than having the equivalent of a 3rd Bush term.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
Always nice to get a visit from Nostradamos?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
ummmm c.j.? Thanks, I knew I was missing some sexism. There's actually another great Daily Show clip on exactly that point, the GOP saying if Hill can't take the heat, what's she gonna do when it's a foreign power, then whining about the coverage of Palin. I never liked or supported Hillary, but I do recognize her as a very strong political entity on her own.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
Palin's no more the real deal than any of them. For the bridge, before she was against it, took the money anyway. Her town and Alaska itlsef are fat with earmarks and oil money. I heard Barney Frank tell a story once- the only time he ever voted for someone he had no problem with, was the first time he ran. By re-election, he had some things that he didn't agree with, but decided to vote for himself anyway. Assume on can find enough reason to point a finger at any politician on the planet. Ultimately it comes to- who will do more of the things that I agree with?
Ned- better get your own lunch. The cynicism in the world is just too much for me.
Ned- better get your own lunch. The cynicism in the world is just too much for me.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
Buzz- here's one for ya, I agree that there is plenty in both parties one can point at, how do you like that? Lobbyists suck and none of the major candidates can claim being squeaky clean. None. That said, I find a bit of a difference between Biden's runaway mouth and the two step done that Palin actually is remotely qualified for the job.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
In response to: The Hypocrisy of the Wingnuts
Wow, I thought I've seen most everything possible - saying someone is faking brain cancer is about as heinous a thing as I could imagine. Regardless of one's political point of view, that is beneath contempt.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
C-mom.... me, I honestly don't care if she was a wild woman in college or anything, versus her high school bible quote. Young folks go through all sorts of stuff, doesn't have to be a sword of Damocles. Obama did drugs in college, we know this also. Dubya had his moments well past college with demon alcohol.
Now as far as being hypocritical, well there is certainly more to that. You can't beat the drum of reform, when you lobby to the tune of $27 million in earmarks to your little town, and Alaska receives the highest amount per capita in earmarks of any state. You can't say you were against the now infamous "bridge to nowhere" when you were first for it. You can't talk about how important it is to drill all over the damn place in Alaska, without talking about what an economic windfall it is to Alaskans, almost nothing to you and me and further damaging the environment.
Her lack of separation of church and state was evident when she spoke before her own church, telling them that our brave and women being sent overseas, were sent on a task by God.
Plenty to be concerned about.
Now as far as being hypocritical, well there is certainly more to that. You can't beat the drum of reform, when you lobby to the tune of $27 million in earmarks to your little town, and Alaska receives the highest amount per capita in earmarks of any state. You can't say you were against the now infamous "bridge to nowhere" when you were first for it. You can't talk about how important it is to drill all over the damn place in Alaska, without talking about what an economic windfall it is to Alaskans, almost nothing to you and me and further damaging the environment.
Her lack of separation of church and state was evident when she spoke before her own church, telling them that our brave and women being sent overseas, were sent on a task by God.
Plenty to be concerned about.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
I'm pretty sure you've jumped the shark, in full drool mode. Actually, the one I liked best recently was McCain plagarizing Wikipedia to talk about the crisis in Georgia. Then I would go with McCain's Cross in the Dirt story, "inspired" by Solzhenitsen.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
lol, Buzz.... is there anything more pathetic than someone like you who has no argument to make, trying to getting his macho on to cover it up? Pretty much has the opposite effect.
And the word is "secession". Maybe you should get someone to write your stuff.
And the word is "secession". Maybe you should get someone to write your stuff.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
Mav- good for her, though I one would think a person would have a copy on the podium because you always account for mishaps and perhaps, just perhaps, she had rehearsed a few times.
Then of course, it also doesn't really pass the sniff test-
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014545.php
Then of course, it also doesn't really pass the sniff test-
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014545.php
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Hmmm, I wish some more of you had a good built in excuse like that
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
In response to: Tonight's Palin Speech
Mmmmhmmm she read the speech done by one of Dubya's old scriptwriters quite well. I'm quite sure the empty suit is the person that said a month ago- what does a vp do, and then goes on to parrot the McSame mantra. It's not like she can talk up the experience she brings to the second in command position.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Buzz, it's probably about the bottom of a barrel when you have to borrow a set from a woman. No surprise though. So I guess that nice large pull quote I grabbed from the AIP website, pretty much takes cares of the notion that they have long disassociated themselves. Nor has Sarah Palin, who videotaped her warm regards to their 2008 convention.
I want some what possee is on when he writes maybe Hill will endorse her.
I want some what possee is on when he writes maybe Hill will endorse her.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: I'd vote for this guy
In response to: I'd vote for this guy
lmao @ "good for Joe" one of the main reasons people find politicians, s smarmy. Examples abound on both sides of the aisle. He also said he wouldn't say anything bad about Obama and couldn't live up to that either. Come January, he'll find out about payback.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
As it states on the current website-"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Joe Vogler
bb's don't seem to have worked out so well for you, you might consider borrowing a full set.
Joe Vogler
bb's don't seem to have worked out so well for you, you might consider borrowing a full set.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Buzz, you are funny. OK, ok.... it's alright for them to be involved with a party founded by a man that spews hate on America. Makes all the sense in the world. And hey, it's ok that she has spoken at their conventions, after all, if McCain can make nicey-nice with all those pesky "agents of intolerance" he once had the set to stand up to, then sure, Palin can talk to the U.S. haters. You don't advocate secession, when you love your country.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Buzz, I wish typing slow would help you understand, but gosh darn it, I know it won't. Vogler founded the AIP, the party Mark Palin belonged to and Gov Palin has had a relationship with. It is the 3rd largest party in Alaska, interesting world up there.
I'm not smarter, I just work harder
I'm not smarter, I just work harder
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Awww Karen, I'm sure you felt the same way about Rev Wright's comments, that it had nothing to do with Obama, right? Has the AIP disavowed it's founder? She's the one playing footsies with these folks. I don't care about her husband's DUI a lick, people make mistakes and there is nothing to suggest it is a problem. So tell me, when was Obama at WU convention? When he was 7?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Yeah Buzz, I actually research things, we certainly can't say the same for you. It was appropriate for Obama to disassociate from Wright's comments. It is of course hypocritical for the wingnuts to think the Palin's shouldn't publically disassociate from Vogler's party. It is laugh out loud funny to see you guys on the fringe stick your heads as far up your asses as possible, when facing the exact same things you criticize others about. I'm sorry, not the exact same things... usually, much worse.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Take what? You actually expect to be taken seriously? You know how to play exactly one note, you are a narrow minded, small man. I'm glad you post for the humor and how ridiculously obvious you make the point precisely the opposite of your intent.
You of course, no nothing about Reverend Wright. Sometimes, consistency is not a good thing.
You of course, no nothing about Reverend Wright. Sometimes, consistency is not a good thing.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Yawn typical Buzz.... caught saying something ridiculous, now it's time to change topics. Let's see if Palin dumps Joe Vogler. Don't know who he is? Read the new blog.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Of course, you know all these women, so it's entirely appropriate for you to run them down. Thank goodness my America is not as cold and heartless as what some people spew. I look forward to the young Palin wedding, as she joins her baby daddy, the guy that calls himself a f***ing redneck that does not want kids.
Yeah Covenant House sounds like a real radical organization- http://covenanthouseak.org/
Yeah Covenant House sounds like a real radical organization- http://covenanthouseak.org/
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Bittersweet- ummm she doesn't have a world view ;). And no, she does not have much use for those that are not undyingly loyal to her. http://idly.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/palin_loyalty_test.pdf
Governor Palin also cut funds for Covenant House Alaska, a home for young mothers to live with their babies up to 18 months to gain the skills needed to change their lives. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html
Governor Palin also cut funds for Covenant House Alaska, a home for young mothers to live with their babies up to 18 months to gain the skills needed to change their lives. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Solon- I'm disappointed because perhaps I overestimated you, if anything. You've really offered nothing but she is the governor of Alaska... well yeah a state with the population of Memphis, and for all of a year and a half. Given her family responsibilities, responsibilities to her state, lack of experience... shouldn't she have the judgment to have said.... mmmm no, I shouldn't do this. She has nothing, and like I posted, even people in the GOP see it. If you want to play the quote game, try this- "He has no more backbone than a chocolate eclair." Teddy Roosevelt
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
karent- Oh good, the Cindy McCain argument that she lives next door to Russia, so she must know anout security! And she wants to try and drill our way out of the energy crisis, both harmful to the environment and known not to really help all that much. When you have an article that is not hypothesis and speculation, let me know. In the meantime, I already referenced Project Vote-Smart. Nor do I need to post any links about Obama's life, he's written 2 books.
Buzz- always an honor to be insulted by someone that consistently misconstrues and twists even the simplest statements. It's tortured, but I know you can't help it. The facts aren't on your side.
Buzz- always an honor to be insulted by someone that consistently misconstrues and twists even the simplest statements. It's tortured, but I know you can't help it. The facts aren't on your side.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Ummm Crusader.... McCain's first wife did not have cancer. She was in a terrible car accident that she refused to be let known to McCain while he was in captivity. The accident significantly affected her. McCain returned from Vietnam and was known to have cheated on his wife, eventually taking up with Cindy and filing to be married before his own divorce was final.
Mav, as is often the case with the those that post here, the notion of actually researching something is foreign. Both McCain and Obama's voring records are easily found on Project Vote-Smart. That would be the McCain that votes with Bush 90% of the time. As for Sarah Palin, hmmm well.... the hypocrisy express certainly is alive there, from family values, to being in favor of the bridge to nowhere to before being against it, to lobbying Washington to the tune of $27 million in earmarks for a city of 9,000 people. She is the one that has fights corruption, but hires a lawyer with an investigation against her own malfeasance.
Nice record! I got more if you'd like.
Mav, as is often the case with the those that post here, the notion of actually researching something is foreign. Both McCain and Obama's voring records are easily found on Project Vote-Smart. That would be the McCain that votes with Bush 90% of the time. As for Sarah Palin, hmmm well.... the hypocrisy express certainly is alive there, from family values, to being in favor of the bridge to nowhere to before being against it, to lobbying Washington to the tune of $27 million in earmarks for a city of 9,000 people. She is the one that has fights corruption, but hires a lawyer with an investigation against her own malfeasance.
Nice record! I got more if you'd like.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Ah Solon, when you know you are wrong, tis better to gather your belongings and go home. I'm not the one that is trying to defend the amateur selection of Sarah Palin, it is your weak arguments that cannot be supported. You know it to be an argument you can't win, so off you go. By the way it isn't just me that says these things, it would be former Bush speechwriter and American Enterprise Institute researcher David Frum: "Ms. Palin's experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall. She served two terms on the city council of Wasilla, Alaska, population 9,000. She served two terms as mayor. In November, 2006, she was elected governor of the state, a job she has held for a little more than 18 months. She has zero foreign policy experience, and no record on national security issues."
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Solon- your response is beyond weak, as you know quite well that is just one example of Obama's accomplishments. Maybe you don't know it quite well, because it's better to just repeat the mantra of the opposition, without actually checking on it's veracity. If you think being Governor of a state the size of Memphis for 20 months is reason for you to dance on the ceiling, cha cha away then! Ironically, Obama has a record, like voting in favor of the Unintended Pregnancy Amendment, designed to expand access to preventive health care services that reduce unintended pregnancy (including teen pregnancy), reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care.(courtesy of Project Vote Smart). John McCain? He voted against it. Irony noted.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
I'm pleased that we are joined by someone that knows what Obama knows and has committted his travel schedule to memory. . Mind you these are the same people that voted for Dubya in 2000, who of course stunned us with his breadth of knowledge about international relations .
Actually the Freepers criticized Obama for how much he traveled when he came to the Senate. So you better corkscrew yourself into a 180 and flip that around. Doesn't it suck to not know what you're talking about? Here's a brief list of countries he visited the first 2 years in thr Senate, as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee- Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti and Chad.
Let me think, which campaign was it that brought up issues such as experience and judgment? Why that would be the McCain campaign! I guess being a POW, and in the Senate for 26 years does not provide the necessary judgment to pick a Vice President. Or properly vette said individual. Spin all you want, because you know you cannot defend McCain and Palin. Going negative is the only choice, when you know your own side has nothing new to put forward.
Actually the Freepers criticized Obama for how much he traveled when he came to the Senate. So you better corkscrew yourself into a 180 and flip that around. Doesn't it suck to not know what you're talking about? Here's a brief list of countries he visited the first 2 years in thr Senate, as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee- Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti and Chad.
Let me think, which campaign was it that brought up issues such as experience and judgment? Why that would be the McCain campaign! I guess being a POW, and in the Senate for 26 years does not provide the necessary judgment to pick a Vice President. Or properly vette said individual. Spin all you want, because you know you cannot defend McCain and Palin. Going negative is the only choice, when you know your own side has nothing new to put forward.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Well I see Buzz is always good for a laugh. Barack Obama did more as a community organizer in Chicago, than Sarah Palin has done. Buzz, your ability to consistenly call the sky green is counted upon like sunrise. One needs go no further than comparing the first significant decision each major party candidate had to make before the American people, and know John McCain failed that.
The Bush-McSame apologists will repeat any line fed to them, no matter how ridiculous. The tactic of saying it often enough and it becomes as if it were true, is still in the playbook. Be willing to do and say anything, McCain has sold his soul for that in countless ways, most prominently in selling out to the radical church leaders he once called agents of intolerance. Now he embraces them.
It's not like Sarah Palin is his first bad decision. Cheating on his first wife, involvement with Keating, staying in Iraq 1,000 years.... just not the kind of guy that has distinguished himself. Votes against his own immigration bill. He was for it before he was agin' it, just like Palin and the bridge. When you've jumped the shark on your own POW status, it's time to fade away.
The Bush-McSame apologists will repeat any line fed to them, no matter how ridiculous. The tactic of saying it often enough and it becomes as if it were true, is still in the playbook. Be willing to do and say anything, McCain has sold his soul for that in countless ways, most prominently in selling out to the radical church leaders he once called agents of intolerance. Now he embraces them.
It's not like Sarah Palin is his first bad decision. Cheating on his first wife, involvement with Keating, staying in Iraq 1,000 years.... just not the kind of guy that has distinguished himself. Votes against his own immigration bill. He was for it before he was agin' it, just like Palin and the bridge. When you've jumped the shark on your own POW status, it's time to fade away.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Love to gadfly.... ok, where does Palin stand on economic issues? Foreign policy? Just because there is one discussion about one aspect of the campaign doesn't mean one can't find other discussions. It's a pretty big internet, yannow?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
Solon- saying that the 20 months as Governor of Alaska is running a state, is the about as flimsy a case as one could make for that phrase. Had Obama picked a Deval Patrick, who has been governor as long as Gov Palin, the hue and cry over experiece would be immense. Spare me the hypocrisy.
Ummm karent.... again, the basic flaw is saying the man has no background. Actually he has more "background" than 3 of the faces on Mt Rushmore. If Obama did not have what it takes, people would have seen right through that. And he has that from his life experience and political experience. I would think judgment is one of those attributes you want in a president. Who has the better judgment- selecting Biden or Palin? Voting with George Bush 90% of the time is NOT the judgment I want my next president to have. I'll gladly take what Obama and Biden bring together on day 1, versus a clone of George Bush and a vice president with, as opinionator states, the experience of a Dennis Selectman.
Ummm karent.... again, the basic flaw is saying the man has no background. Actually he has more "background" than 3 of the faces on Mt Rushmore. If Obama did not have what it takes, people would have seen right through that. And he has that from his life experience and political experience. I would think judgment is one of those attributes you want in a president. Who has the better judgment- selecting Biden or Palin? Voting with George Bush 90% of the time is NOT the judgment I want my next president to have. I'll gladly take what Obama and Biden bring together on day 1, versus a clone of George Bush and a vice president with, as opinionator states, the experience of a Dennis Selectman.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: President Palin
In response to: President Palin
karent- Several flaws to your argument. Obama certainly has significantly more relevant political and life experience, than Palin. Second, you can't be too sure about her small chance, John McCain is 72 years old. Most of her political career was in a town, where the population is less than the year round population of Brewster.If Alaska was a city in terms of population, it would be Memphis, TN.
If you think that a successful president must have great political skills, remember that Barack Obama defeated, from behind, the heavily financed, heavily favored, Clinton Political Machine. Look at the man under fire- the campaign that was put together, the ability to rally more people to participate in the process, the candidate's own attributes - beat the Clintons.
If you think that a successful president must have great political skills, remember that Barack Obama defeated, from behind, the heavily financed, heavily favored, Clinton Political Machine. Look at the man under fire- the campaign that was put together, the ability to rally more people to participate in the process, the candidate's own attributes - beat the Clintons.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Defamation suit filed against CC Today blogger, commenter
In response to: Defamation suit filed against CC Today blogger, commenter
Robert, your comment about the left stifling the speech of the right is about the funniest thing I've heard since the last 30 seconds I was able to stomach Michael Savage.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Defamation suit filed against CC Today blogger, commenter
In response to: Defamation suit filed against CC Today blogger, commenter
Hmmm.... among the other problems with this, doesn't libel also include knowingly making false statements with the intent of damaging a party?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Improved broadband service planned for Cape
In response to: Improved broadband service planned for Cape
As far as getting more DSL on the Cape, Verizon... hmmmm what's the word that sums it up..... SUCKS.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hungry for Breakfast
In response to: Hungry for Breakfast
nursenancy- the Hole in One is on 6A in Orleans, near the intersection of Main St. There is a driveway down to the parking area, next to the Getty Station. Best doughnut there? All of them :). These are SERIOUS doughnuts, not the little microdots you get at Dunkies these days. Plus they always put out some donut holes on the counter for freebies, a bonus for young and old.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
A skewed fact is no longer a fact. Nor is there anything to skew around Obama's lifelong religion. Anything other that what the truth is, would be a lie. If you want to legitimatize lies as acceptable to form opinions on, then just about any hate speech is legitimate, since, after all, it is just that person's opinion.
I wish I had several more trucks to drive through the holes in this.
I wish I had several more trucks to drive through the holes in this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hungry for Breakfast
In response to: Hungry for Breakfast
Hole in One, 'nuff said. Come on people, eat a real donut :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
I know about the math, however there is very little going on in Congress right now, and you still have a House that is Democratic. This is one seriously lame duck session and presidency.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
That the Dems lack the ummmm "testicular fortitude" to ban Lieberman from their caucus and strip him from his committee is pathetic.
Could be a new blog for someone in waiting called- The Dumbest Thing I've Heard Today....
Could be a new blog for someone in waiting called- The Dumbest Thing I've Heard Today....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
In response to: Hiding Behind Opinion
Apparently you're correct. In the Dec '07 WSJ poll, 8% of the respondents identified Obama as Muslim. In the March '08 poll, that went up to 13%. So there you have the amazing statistic that the further into the election cycle we got, the dumber some people became.
Mind you, that may also be a criticism of the media..... ;)
Mind you, that may also be a criticism of the media..... ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Of course it's true marco, unlike others, I don't pull random crap out of my butt. It's on the state DOE website.
As far as Special Ed assistants, that varies from year to year, based on the kids. You can't not provide one if a kid's IEP requires him/her to have one. More often schools get caught by surprises of having kids come into the district they hadn't originally planned or budgeted for, and they have to ask for money to fund those positions.
As far as Special Ed assistants, that varies from year to year, based on the kids. You can't not provide one if a kid's IEP requires him/her to have one. More often schools get caught by surprises of having kids come into the district they hadn't originally planned or budgeted for, and they have to ask for money to fund those positions.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
BTW, those averages are the per pupil average....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Well, perhaps people would like to look at MCAS scores from '04-'07 and make their own determination- http://profiles1.doe.mass.edu/mcas/mcascharts.asp?mode=o&view=all&ot=5&o=2121&so=&district=645&mcasyear=2007
It looks like the high school scores have improved, but there should be a lot of concern at the elementary level.
By the way, in 2007 D-Y spent on average $298 on Administration. The state average was $401. They also spend more that state average for classroom and specialist teachers. And they spend less than half the state average for professional development.
Facts are an amazing thing, aren't they?
It looks like the high school scores have improved, but there should be a lot of concern at the elementary level.
By the way, in 2007 D-Y spent on average $298 on Administration. The state average was $401. They also spend more that state average for classroom and specialist teachers. And they spend less than half the state average for professional development.
Facts are an amazing thing, aren't they?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Word of advice, dont ask for any volunteers among blog commentators ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
None of which has anything to do with D-Y, other than inneundo. Basically parents need to be more involved and asking hard questions about the program, the budget and this administrative shuffle that to date, seems indefensible.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Those are not facts about D-Y. And of course your leap that people are having babies because they are living high on the hog at the government expense, has no logical connection. It is Reagan's welfare queen, redux. In fact, welfare benefits declined in the 70's and 80's, as the rate of out of wedlock births increased significantly.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Lovely generalizations. Reminds me of when Reagan spoke so convincingly of the Chicago welfare queen. Wonderful story, except he made the whole thing up. One can toss out whatever stereotypes one wants to, what is consistently lacking are actual facts to back this up. So anytime anyone wants to present actual data that this is the issue in D-Y, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, it's more of the steady drumbeat of people getting on a soapbox to deliver their own anecdotal stereotypes.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Special needs kids aren't normal? Glad that's clarified...
There is a broad range of kids under IEP's, some for a short time, some with more significant needs. I think one sign of a humane society is how we care for children. What is more problematic is when you don't fully fund those programs. Those kids are not detracting from the overall program; they get whatever level of additional help is appropriate.
Let's understand that a strong program is what leads to success. According to the state, D-Y has 16.4% special ed students. Brewster has 15.7%, really not a significant difference. I'm willing to guess that the .7% difference is not the issue. As we know, the Eddy School was the top 4th grade for reading in the state a couple years ago. Harwich actually has a higher level of SPED students.
Rather than loaded language, people should be examining how the program can be improved. I don't think this administrative shuffle is anything other than movement for the sake of looking like something is being done. Certainly no valid explanation has been forthcoming.
There is a broad range of kids under IEP's, some for a short time, some with more significant needs. I think one sign of a humane society is how we care for children. What is more problematic is when you don't fully fund those programs. Those kids are not detracting from the overall program; they get whatever level of additional help is appropriate.
Let's understand that a strong program is what leads to success. According to the state, D-Y has 16.4% special ed students. Brewster has 15.7%, really not a significant difference. I'm willing to guess that the .7% difference is not the issue. As we know, the Eddy School was the top 4th grade for reading in the state a couple years ago. Harwich actually has a higher level of SPED students.
Rather than loaded language, people should be examining how the program can be improved. I don't think this administrative shuffle is anything other than movement for the sake of looking like something is being done. Certainly no valid explanation has been forthcoming.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
In response to: Is the Dennis-Yarmouth Regional School District now a school for scoundrels?
Amen karent..... the dynamic duo continues to pull whatever they want out of their butts, without a shred of knowledge or facts. Generalized anecdotes presented as truth, you bet the dumbing down continues.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
Since you only know one note.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
Nah, I'm not smug, it's all relative. I know, I know.... I can't go pollutin' the environment here by using say... "big words" or "facts". For example, there are those that know Massachusetts is in the middle of the pack for state and local tax burden, and those that make things up. I'll take that smug, thanks. There are those that scratch themselves unable to differentiate between McCain and Obama, and those that understand this election provides a significant contrast in the direction of this country.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
Peter- your email response didn't illuminate the matter at all, so I'll ask again if you have more background on this? It strikes me as odd that people would approve a school budget crafted by such a devious sort, at the expense of considerable town cuts.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
By the way Peter, I'm curious as to your quotes around the word "found". I've googled my lil heart out trying to find some background on this, and the D-Y budget and can't find a thing. Surely someone would inquire how this money could be "found", whatever that means. Usually it means- "I want this to look like it's something "fishy", so let's put quotes on it".
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
And thank you for reiterating my point :)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
Ummm thanks for saying nothing.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
Well you guys are the best free entertainment going. I'm sorry you didn't like or understand the answer that the state budget must always balance by law, or that actions on the federal level significantly impact how states spend their money- I can't type it any slower.
You can't even differentiate between Obama and McCain, so I can't wait for your facts.
So Mr Fiscal Responsibility - what would you like to get rid of? Make sure you cc Rep Perry, as apparently he's looking for ideas on this also.
You can't even differentiate between Obama and McCain, so I can't wait for your facts.
So Mr Fiscal Responsibility - what would you like to get rid of? Make sure you cc Rep Perry, as apparently he's looking for ideas on this also.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
Poor possee- I pretty have your M.O. down. Throw out some boring cliches with no factual basis and cry politics when challenged. Now that we know you don't know anything about education, we can move on.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
murrbuck- I'm glad you shared that, as one of the things we can be proud of is when every child's beauty and potential is acknowledged and valued.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
I'm still mad that the Egyptians kept the Jews as slaves.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
possee- if you can't even follow what you post:
"well, since this state legislature is mostly democrat, and myself and many independent, please expain yourself and your cronies how we are in such a fiscal mess"
Then no wonder you're easily dismissed. Feel free to prattle on yourself.
polo- reagrdless of whom one supports, if you don't know the differences between McCain and Obama, well.... I guess that's just not something I would be crowing about.
"well, since this state legislature is mostly democrat, and myself and many independent, please expain yourself and your cronies how we are in such a fiscal mess"
Then no wonder you're easily dismissed. Feel free to prattle on yourself.
polo- reagrdless of whom one supports, if you don't know the differences between McCain and Obama, well.... I guess that's just not something I would be crowing about.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
LMAO.... by law, the state must balance it's budget. That you don't understand the relationship between the actions at the federal level and what happens in the states, speaks for itself. Sure you're upset that your little remark about Taxachusetts was woefully out of date, that's not going to stop you. The person with the agenda is you, you've been dismissed.
I'm still having a good chuckle about my cronies. You don't mean those 2 mysterious figures, Lefty and Biff that follow me around?
I'm still having a good chuckle about my cronies. You don't mean those 2 mysterious figures, Lefty and Biff that follow me around?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
possee- seriously, flip the calendar forward. The pedagogy has not seriously channged since the 19th century and if it does not, the future is bleak. People that wring their hands about these poor kids being numbed on video games also have absolutely no concept whatsoever about most of these games- just lump them all together based on some second hand info you read. In fact, what education needs to do is embrace gaming, there is so much effective work being done around education and gaming concepts. Here is one example- http://www.research.neu.edu/news/?id=63 . Don't lecture me about background or credentials either- my kids are in public schools, one went to Lighthouse Charter, I attended public schools through college, have served on School Committee and taught at the university level. The difference is my watch never stopped.
Opinionator.... there was a shortcut, you know ;).
Opinionator.... there was a shortcut, you know ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
Typical... how easy are you to dismiss? Let's start with Taxachusetts. Currently Massachusetts ranks 23'rd among the 50 states (reminder to some of you that haven't kept up- Alaska and Hawaii count now) in state and local tax burden. That's pretty much the middle of the pack. Just another out of touch person, making the same old out of date claims.
Several years ago, back in the days when John McCain had a pair, he spoke out against Bush's policy of cutting taxes in wartime, never been done. We know the results of that. We also know what expense unfunded mandates from Washington, such as No Child Left Behind, has caused on state and local budgets.
There you go, far more specifics than Mr. Perry's playing to the crowd.
Several years ago, back in the days when John McCain had a pair, he spoke out against Bush's policy of cutting taxes in wartime, never been done. We know the results of that. We also know what expense unfunded mandates from Washington, such as No Child Left Behind, has caused on state and local budgets.
There you go, far more specifics than Mr. Perry's playing to the crowd.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
In response to: What Happens When I Run Into Walter.....
I'm sure he got his money's worth on Friday....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
In response to: Has DY School Superintendent Carol Woodbury been truthful?
It's nice to see a pretty consistent refrain demonstrating a complete lack of education in 2008. The world is different, no matter how much people want to desperately hold on to the notion of - "well when I was a kid...." Your's is a prescription for mediocrity and a country not able to compete in the world economy. Instead of blathering on, based on misconceptions and antiquated ideas, flip the calendar forward and educate yourself on what our kids need TODAY to succeed in this world, in jobs that don't even exist yet.
And it sure as hell isn't the MCAS either.
And it sure as hell isn't the MCAS either.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Where does one find Good Chinese Food??
In response to: Where does one find Good Chinese Food??
There is some pretty good Thai on the Cape as has been mentioned. Chinese is very hit or miss here, even the same dish from the same restaurant. Don't expect the quality you get from the better places in NY-Boston
Democrant [Member]
In response to: We should thank Jeff Perry for having the courage to vote against the recent state budget
In response to: We should thank Jeff Perry for having the courage to vote against the recent state budget
Did Rep. Perry also have the courage to go on record and indicate what cuts he would make to the budget?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Matt responds to right wing blogger's B.S., Draws ire
In response to: Matt responds to right wing blogger's B.S., Draws ire
Matt- the irony is that many of these people think they are making a point, when it truly is just the usual bobblehead talking points. It says as much about how the entire process has gone awry and what passes for discourse is often just static.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Mihos announces (then unannounces) run against Patrick in 2010
In response to: Mihos announces (then unannounces) run against Patrick in 2010
Well I don't know about favorite son, it's not like he lit up his vote totals down this way.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Gas prices will end Green airport bus in two weeks
In response to: Gas prices will end Green airport bus in two weeks
It's too bad, I know someone that used the service and found it very enjoyable. I'd also note she was the only rider on the bus from Green to Harwich. It was a tough go, but I bet not a lot of people were aware the service existed.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Throw the rascal out
In response to: Throw the rascal out
It's laughable to think Kerry will lose, especially to a candidate who pulled a robust 29.5% against Bill Delahunt. Then again, having looked at the "issues" section of Beatty's website, I'm sure it took a lot of effort to come up with a single paragraph on his thoughts of the great issues of our times.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Cost of Education on Cape Cod
In response to: The Cost of Education on Cape Cod
Op- just for clarification, I'm not sure what the Orleans and Wellfleet numbers represent, since they are part of the Nauset district and you have a separate number for Nauset.
Another important factor in looking at per pupil cost is that you do get an appreciation for the how much more it is to educate special needs students. I think we all agree that is a good thing, however it is one of those underfunded mandates government decides is good, then leaves it to the locals to pay for. A school system has no control over that; it's a roll of the dice in terms of how many special needs students you have and how much support each one requires.
Another important factor in looking at per pupil cost is that you do get an appreciation for the how much more it is to educate special needs students. I think we all agree that is a good thing, however it is one of those underfunded mandates government decides is good, then leaves it to the locals to pay for. A school system has no control over that; it's a roll of the dice in terms of how many special needs students you have and how much support each one requires.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Should we vote for Sarah Peake or Don Howell?
In response to: Should we vote for Sarah Peake or Don Howell?
I thought Walter was commenting more on the content, than your emotional state. I really took it as just flippant and lacking credibility. Regardless of emotional state, when you leave people wondering- "where in the blue hell does one make this stuff up" - that's far more damaging.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: State GOP to only contest 58 of 200 seats; Chatham house sold for Springfield penalty
In response to: State GOP to only contest 58 of 200 seats; Chatham house sold for Springfield penalty
Well, you remember Romney's big push to increase the number of GOP members in the House and Senate. That ended up, hmmmm let's see... carry the one, divide by... oh yeah- they lost seats! Now presidential election years are notoriously difficult for the GOP here. Turnout increases, it's more liberal in MA when that happens. That said, they may regret it if McCain shows an ability to run stronger here and DiMasi goes down.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Should we vote for Sarah Peake or Don Howell?
In response to: Should we vote for Sarah Peake or Don Howell?
Mostly I like how I got an email from the Blogfather, to push this hodge podge of unsubstantiated manure, disguised as prose. Poor Cynthia, now practically a card carrying member of the Socialist Workers of America. We can also add older people, in addition to gays, to the groups of people that Mr Maloy has problems with; I hope that when these candidates debate, someone, anyone, will have the sense to put 2 Life Waters on the respective podiums. And when exactly did someone do a demographic breakdown of who supports whom?
It's a pity that Aaron is sitting this one out, as the sheer entertainment value would be priceless.
It's a pity that Aaron is sitting this one out, as the sheer entertainment value would be priceless.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The ride is almost over, Hillary
In response to: The ride is almost over, Hillary
As is always the case, the public is consistently ill-served by the pundits and media you refer to. I don't know of a candidate that has ever sat back and said-"yup, pretty happy with how the media is covering me." People are still trying to tie Obama to Muslim extremists, what could be more heinous than that?
Simply, Hillary Clinton has not enhanced her reputation by the type of campaign she has run. When yur home state is calling you out, you better take notice- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html
Simply, Hillary Clinton has not enhanced her reputation by the type of campaign she has run. When yur home state is calling you out, you better take notice- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The insufferable arrogance of Cape Cod washashores
In response to: The insufferable arrogance of Cape Cod washashores
NIMBY'ism strikes in all sorts of ways, whether it is a windfarm, horse farm or affordable housing, which is desperately needed on the Cape.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Does Anyone Still Care About Local Government?
In response to: Does Anyone Still Care About Local Government?
Who is "You"? I think this is a case where the media (CCTimes, Codder) made more of a deal than people cared and Ehrhart was too thin skinned about it, or maybe just didn't like being on the Board. I think he could have been re-elected.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Self interest at its worst
In response to: Self interest at its worst
Indeed, it is the unfortunate same anywhere. Perhaps it also speaks to the fact that the much of what is presented before a town meeting is not of particular interest to the populous and by interest I mean does not directly affect them. As I posted on my blog yesterday, the lack of participation in government is troubling.
In an age of MCAS, students are not really exposed formally to civic responsibilities. Many of them do get involved in a variety of way; my daughter's elementary school is constantly engaged in various fundraisers for community causes. So children see they can have an impact in specific ways.
When there is a warrant of 40 articles, how many people there really understand all they are voting on? In Brewster, huge budgets go through easily very often, then we will spend 45 minutes on a piece of minutia.
In an age of MCAS, students are not really exposed formally to civic responsibilities. Many of them do get involved in a variety of way; my daughter's elementary school is constantly engaged in various fundraisers for community causes. So children see they can have an impact in specific ways.
When there is a warrant of 40 articles, how many people there really understand all they are voting on? In Brewster, huge budgets go through easily very often, then we will spend 45 minutes on a piece of minutia.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Does Anyone Still Care About Local Government?
In response to: Does Anyone Still Care About Local Government?
Well, if all people are going to do is throw up hands and not problem solve, then how much longer do you give this grand experiment called democracy? The premise is participation.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: How to quell those Chinese cravings
In response to: How to quell those Chinese cravings
I like it well enough, but the boneless ribs did not pass the Daughters of Democrant test :). Should have gotten more beef teriyaki.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: We won't get fooled again
In response to: We won't get fooled again
Wonderful prose there, Mr. Watson and welcome to the blog wars :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Romney lies to AP
In response to: Romney lies to AP
Of course Romney is lying, same battleplan when he ran for governor. The Herald covered more on the lobbying issue this week-
see here.
see here.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Where Fiscal Discipline Is a Pipe Dream
In response to: Where Fiscal Discipline Is a Pipe Dream
You all understand that the pension gap has more to do with how the privates have cut way back to screw their own. Your taxes will pay to support all those people also.
No one is against efficiencies in spending. There could be none more clearer than the absurd idea that a state cop is needed on these road details. But many of the ideas espoused here are not cut and dry. Nor will I for a moment apologize for thinking about actual people. Pretty easy for the keyboard cowards to rail on. Yes Wavemaker, your last paragraph is more the exception, people latch on to a single news story and get the idea that most people are like that. The cynicism in this country is sickening.
No one is against efficiencies in spending. There could be none more clearer than the absurd idea that a state cop is needed on these road details. But many of the ideas espoused here are not cut and dry. Nor will I for a moment apologize for thinking about actual people. Pretty easy for the keyboard cowards to rail on. Yes Wavemaker, your last paragraph is more the exception, people latch on to a single news story and get the idea that most people are like that. The cynicism in this country is sickening.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Where Fiscal Discipline Is a Pipe Dream
In response to: Where Fiscal Discipline Is a Pipe Dream
Before one drives the stake through the heart of government employees, one needs to look at more than the benefit package to be fair. What is the overall compensation package people get? Tilt the wheel too much and you lose many good people. You know, it's like people feel about Congress... people say they can't stand Congress, but keep voting for their incumbent. When you put a face on it, rather than "those people", amazing how attitudes change.
Yes there are efficiencies that need to be enacted, but no one in this state has the courage to say if you want government to do the things you want it to do, you need to pay for it.
Yes there are efficiencies that need to be enacted, but no one in this state has the courage to say if you want government to do the things you want it to do, you need to pay for it.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hypocrats: Part 2
In response to: Hypocrats: Part 2
Well the "Gore Tax" actually pre-dates Gore, but that would involve more work- http://badtux.org/home/eric/grumblings/e-rate.php . Also worth noting that Mr Gore has not been VP for a while, and no one has done anything about this since.
Now I'm trying to figure out if it's a form of class warfare you are promoting, that wealthy folks shouldn't be wealthy? We ought to have some sort of tax on everyone that owns an SUV then, don't you think?
Now I'm trying to figure out if it's a form of class warfare you are promoting, that wealthy folks shouldn't be wealthy? We ought to have some sort of tax on everyone that owns an SUV then, don't you think?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Next to Agendacrats the Hypocrats are the Worst
In response to: Next to Agendacrats the Hypocrats are the Worst
I know, Clinton actually tried to kill Bin Laden, which is more than we could say for George. I understand the fringe likes to still play by the idea- if you say things enough time, they become true. Fortunately most of the American people pretty much understand what a game that is. At minimum, there is plenty of blame to go around, given the intelligence ignored by the Bush Administration pre-9/11 and then manipulated post 9/11.
Aside from Bill Clinton's separate foundation, which has raised billions to fight against AIDS, poverty, etc., the Clintons have had a charity in their own name, funded by them. From 2001-2005, the Clintons put over $5 million into their personal charity.
There is plenty of actual fodder to go after for Hillary, but that would take actual research.
Aside from Bill Clinton's separate foundation, which has raised billions to fight against AIDS, poverty, etc., the Clintons have had a charity in their own name, funded by them. From 2001-2005, the Clintons put over $5 million into their personal charity.
There is plenty of actual fodder to go after for Hillary, but that would take actual research.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Slick Willy and Capitol Hillary: Two for the price of one?
In response to: Slick Willy and Capitol Hillary: Two for the price of one?
It is laugh out loud funny as to what people believe.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Slick Willy and Capitol Hillary: Two for the price of one?
In response to: Slick Willy and Capitol Hillary: Two for the price of one?
I don't even like Hillary, but found this article as paranoid as ohhh say Hillary gets. Is it a newsflash that Bill Clinton would be involved in his wife's campaign and administration, if elected? I'd also suspect that if Bill Clinton was a candidate, he'd run stronger as a candidate than Hillary against anything in the GOP field.
I still think (and hope) she crumbles against the weight of expectations. She is not the best candidate the Dems can run. But having Bill around is more asset than liability, so much so they have to avoid him easily upstaging her on the hustings.
I still think (and hope) she crumbles against the weight of expectations. She is not the best candidate the Dems can run. But having Bill around is more asset than liability, so much so they have to avoid him easily upstaging her on the hustings.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Oil spikes at $92 a barrel, triple what it was when Cape Wind was proposed in '01
In response to: Oil spikes at $92 a barrel, triple what it was when Cape Wind was proposed in '01
AAA's gas check has a 13.9 cent difference between Barnstable and Boston prices.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is it time for Bill D. to befriend Bill W.?
In response to: Is it time for Bill D. to befriend Bill W.?
Interesting.... though I might characterize things a little different where you say, "the real man shows through". I can't comment on Delahunt specifically, as my experiences have been different. But for anyone with a drinking issue, I would argue whether that is the real person.
What concerned me this morning about Delahunt was that he was a "Not Voting" on the State Children's Health Insurance Program re-authorization. That's too big a vote to miss.
What concerned me this morning about Delahunt was that he was a "Not Voting" on the State Children's Health Insurance Program re-authorization. That's too big a vote to miss.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cape Cod Commission subcommittee urges full commission vote against Cape Wind
In response to: Cape Cod Commission subcommittee urges full commission vote against Cape Wind
First, I want to commend Jack for a well written article, though I suspect my praise to him is considered faint praise ;)
Here's what I would say to those in opposition to the project, a position that I lean towards. And I'll add to the supporters, the constant refrain of NIMBYism doesn't help. But specifically to opponents; are there any conditions imagineable that you could define some sort of wind project in Nanticket Sound that would sufficiently address concerns raised? Pretend there is no Cape Wind project on the books. Someone says, you know, from a standpoint of producing wind power, the Sound has a lot of potential, how do we do this?
Here's what I would say to those in opposition to the project, a position that I lean towards. And I'll add to the supporters, the constant refrain of NIMBYism doesn't help. But specifically to opponents; are there any conditions imagineable that you could define some sort of wind project in Nanticket Sound that would sufficiently address concerns raised? Pretend there is no Cape Wind project on the books. Someone says, you know, from a standpoint of producing wind power, the Sound has a lot of potential, how do we do this?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Following Rauschenbach's Money
In response to: Following Rauschenbach's Money
Jeff- but five donations to Wilkerson? He barely gave more to Kerry Healey than Wilkerson.It's a fascinating game- does $200 buy access? A return call?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Poor Mitt
In response to: Poor Mitt
Ah, as you said Aaron- does not "necessarily" mean that, but it is sufficiently vague enough to be taken that way. More on this here- http://massresistance.blogspot.com/2007/09/ny-times-romney-kept-promise-to-gays-to.html
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
Solon... you mean the guy that got 30% of the vote against Delahunt?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
Jack- it would help to actually read what I write. Why would you say I would want to claim Kerry responded "promptly and effectively", when I specifically said Kerry could be criticized? And thanks for agreeing further down, it looks like the kid was looking for a confrontation. It will be determined whether the police acted appropriately. I really wouldn't care whether it happened at a Cheney speech, as the policies pushed by Cheney have killed and wounded far more Americans than one attention seeking college student. Talk about misplaced outrage.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: And they joke about "Indian Time"
In response to: And they joke about "Indian Time"
Morris is Director of Governmental Relations, I don't believe it would be accurate to call him the chief political advisor. I think you answered your own question; there is an investigation and it is beginning through the AG's office.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
In response to: Meet John Kerry, soon to be former senator
Meanwhile, back at the facts.... It seems there is certainly some indication that the kid was looking for a confrontation specifically to be videotaped:
http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8696
and
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/
articles/2007/09/18/florida_student_arrested_tasered_at_kerry_forum/
(Editor's note: above link has been split apart to fit page dimensions. Remove spaces making link one line for it to work.)
Kerry can certainly be criticized for the poor response to the Swifties, however saying he chose to go windsurfing rather than respond, paints an entirely false impression. The Swifties came on the scene in about May of 2004, which would have been the time to deal with that forcefully. Really, windsurfing has no point there, other than to parrot GOP talking points.
I remember how well Bill Weld beat Kerry also in '96 ;). Second, the GOP would have to find a credible candidate, with big money. Third, it is a presidential election year, with a guaranteed higher and more Democratic turnout. And fourth, while polls show Kerry as more vulnerable, that's when you have no one running against him to compare him against.
http://www.bluemassgroup.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8696
and
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/
articles/2007/09/18/florida_student_arrested_tasered_at_kerry_forum/
(Editor's note: above link has been split apart to fit page dimensions. Remove spaces making link one line for it to work.)
Kerry can certainly be criticized for the poor response to the Swifties, however saying he chose to go windsurfing rather than respond, paints an entirely false impression. The Swifties came on the scene in about May of 2004, which would have been the time to deal with that forcefully. Really, windsurfing has no point there, other than to parrot GOP talking points.
I remember how well Bill Weld beat Kerry also in '96 ;). Second, the GOP would have to find a credible candidate, with big money. Third, it is a presidential election year, with a guaranteed higher and more Democratic turnout. And fourth, while polls show Kerry as more vulnerable, that's when you have no one running against him to compare him against.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Details, details, details ...
In response to: Details, details, details ...
Hmmmm... take the absolute worst assumptions one can and decide in advance they are true. Continue with an obligatory Marshall reference and dreaming up this analogy with sex ed to fit the cause. There are legitimate arguments to made pro and con, without resorting to this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Poor Mitt
In response to: Poor Mitt
It was their only campaign, 2002. Proper credit to ABC News for digging this up.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Why is Sen. Wilkerson interested in the Wampanoags?
In response to: Why is Sen. Wilkerson interested in the Wampanoags?
Wilkerson, in recently questioning Northeastern University's commitment to the surrounding neighborhoods, called into question NU's credibility. I'm not sure the Senator is in a position to be commenting on that topic. So yeah, the radar should be up on this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Jack- if that was true, then beauty would not be in the eye of the beholder. Someone once thought that Boston City Hall would be one fine looking building.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Well Buzz, I had asked you to substantiate what you said, since ummmm, you claimed it. You can't, duly noted. It's hardly surprising that you misconstrue what I write, you can't even get right what you post. Once again, another sad chapter of the Strange World of Buzz comes to an end.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Ummmm Buzz, nice to know when your original point fails miserably, you'll stop on a dime and change it. I didn't mention Larry Craig is a white guy or that the evacuation signs are metal, either. In all cases, it had nothing to do with what I was writing about. So having failed to correlate the behavior of black athletes, to adolescents, we are now left with- it's bad to do this. Uh huh. You now want to discuss how terrible African American Athletes are. You of course have only incidents that make the press to go on. You think you could find many, many examples of athletes, of all racial backgrounds, that do things for their communities? Is there a Sports Illustrated section on that? Patriot and Celtic players make frequent appearances in the schools. The Red Sox ties to the Jimmy Fund are long known and established. No one is defending Travis Henry or anyone else, but when anyone uses it to make a point that cannot be supported, you have to question that person's motive.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Good move Buzz, since your "defense" was ripped to shreds, make something up. I never mentioned anything about Travis Henry's skin color. I made a bad football joke. You brought up race, brought the whole unsubstantiated argument up. So since you have nothing to back up your statement, you are left to offer random conjecture as truth? I don't have to be uppity to dismiss your points, merely coherent.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Buzz, you cannot take the phrase out of context and further misinterpret the entire thing, as you've done til now. It says that those that participate in athletics must get those messages. Messages from teachers, coaches and parents are what's important, not a clown like Henry. At least I'm assured that your misuse of that blurb is complete.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Ah Jack, but who will determine the difference between a foolish and a wise one?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Not at all, and actually the opposite. it says athletes engage in this activity more than non-athletes. It says athletes need to be taught better, which is exactly what programs like the Center for Sports and Society at Northeastern University, provides.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
No, I asked you to support your argument, that the behavior of Travis Henry or any athlete, has anything to do with the birth rate of unwed mothers in the black community.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
And where would you quantify that the behavior is tied to that of athletes? When you can connect the dots there, perhaps you would have a point.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Thank you, though I think I'm a little happy I didn't know ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
So if I said I can't pick up a copy of without reading about this person's problem or that person's problem, then we should hoist a flag about what terrible role models these are for .... whom? Caucasians? Women? Men? Or does one understand the point that if you take all the athletes, or all celebs or all whatever group you want.... you'll find that some do really bad things and it is not a demographic question. Are you suggesting that young white kids that might have a T.Henry shirt would be less affected than a black kid? Is there any affect at all, whether you are talking about Henry or Brittany Spears? You say, "at the risk of sounding racist", well gee, I wonder how that happened?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
In response to: Random Thoughts and They Aren't All for Kids
Andy- excellent points. The other thing I was thinking about those signs were I would have a lot of time to read them, as I and thousands of others sat bottled up. Reality is, where we are, there is not a lot that can be done to facilitate the movement of that many cars.
Jack- kudos to you on supporting that. I hope you appreciate the larger point that among our human foibles may be a lack of consistency.
Buzz- as soon as possible, I am going to have a chat with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan about how their behavior impacts young white women across America. I feel like I cannot even get in my car anymore! The other good analogy yould could have made was Newt Gingrich going after Clinton while doing the same thing and I'd guess he was pro-DoMA also, lol. There's plenty to go around.
Jack- kudos to you on supporting that. I hope you appreciate the larger point that among our human foibles may be a lack of consistency.
Buzz- as soon as possible, I am going to have a chat with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan about how their behavior impacts young white women across America. I feel like I cannot even get in my car anymore! The other good analogy yould could have made was Newt Gingrich going after Clinton while doing the same thing and I'd guess he was pro-DoMA also, lol. There's plenty to go around.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No relief from the heat with Shady Glenn
In response to: No relief from the heat with Shady Glenn
Totally agree. I would be curious as to why there is this suspicion about these South African backers, it was mentioned, but not explained.
Finances of the tribe and background checks of everyone involved should be done. Without 100% tranparency, people should be highly skeptical at this point.
Finances of the tribe and background checks of everyone involved should be done. Without 100% tranparency, people should be highly skeptical at this point.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Marshall is out- what changes?
In response to: Marshall is out- what changes?
Absolutely. Never too late for due diligence, I suppose. The agreement actually states that Middleborough will continue to support the project- even against negative publicity:
Sect22C
"The Town will reasonably assist the Tribe in responding to negative comments about the Project, reiterating the Town's support and the basis therefor."
I'm not sure, in reading the agreement, how it can be terminated by the town if further revelations deemed it so. Now I say this as someone that supports casino gambling in the state, but I feel certain there is more information to come that may bear against this specific project.
Sect22C
"The Town will reasonably assist the Tribe in responding to negative comments about the Project, reiterating the Town's support and the basis therefor."
I'm not sure, in reading the agreement, how it can be terminated by the town if further revelations deemed it so. Now I say this as someone that supports casino gambling in the state, but I feel certain there is more information to come that may bear against this specific project.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tribal leader convicted of rape in 1981, claims as war hero and police officer unsubstantiated
In response to: Tribal leader convicted of rape in 1981, claims as war hero and police officer unsubstantiated
Peter- fantastic stuff and some love shown by Dan Kennedy on his media blog also- http://medianation.blogspot.com/2007/08/truth-about-glenn-marshall.html
Democrant [Member]
In response to: 11 women killed; Does anyone care?
In response to: 11 women killed; Does anyone care?
Too often the differences in ruling are only found in nuances. For all the campaign blather about change, genuine change in the structure of government is fleeting. And I have no problems calling that on the Dems in Congress now as with the Bush Administration. Rather than actually doing something, the desire is to look like they are doing just enough to protest Bush, without changing anything. Clearly the decision is to maintain the image that a very unpopular Republican in Bush is screwing things up, let's sweep them all out in 2008.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Stop & Shop Gas Coupons good at Christy's; Casino, rail link is a good bet; Sailboat in overboard death to be auctioned
In response to: Stop & Shop Gas Coupons good at Christy's; Casino, rail link is a good bet; Sailboat in overboard death to be auctioned
I think I have only seen the coupons at Stop and Shop locations that actually have gas stations on the premises. I don't know if that's true of any of the Cape locations.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Annual Cape Cod Summer Gas Scam in Full Force
In response to: The Annual Cape Cod Summer Gas Scam in Full Force
That's why I said "Annual" :)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
Jack, I'm not the one befuddled, I didn't write it. So I'll accept that there is no relationship between Stevens being investigated, and his opposition. As for Al Qaeda and Iraq, it is preposterous to overlook that the Bush Administration constantly attempted to tie the two together, whenthe overwhelming body of information supported the opposite conclusion. It's equally ridiculous to suggest we went there to fight them there, not even the Bushies suggest that. Weren't we supposed to be fighting them in Afghanistan and getting help from Pakistan? Nor is it an either/or that we fight them here or there. Hello, it's not a conventional war of boundaries and armies. Thinking in terms of conventional war is one of many reasons Iraq failed. Framing it as a false choice merely points out the weakness of the argument.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
Not exactly a deft dance there, Jack. Please explain the how referencing Stevens' opposition to Cape Wind has anything to do with this investigation? You wrote the article, perhaps the headline also? To what purpose?
And of course you know darn well that Al Qaeda was not in Iraq before we got there. It didn't stop the Bush Administration from constantly trying to make that connection in reference to 9/11. If you mentioned Al Qaeda in an Administration speech, you better put Iraq in the same sentence, to justify that well thought out liberation plan; the one that has destabilized the region and resulted in an Al Qaeda that a recent reports indicate was at least as strong as it ever was.
And of course you know darn well that Al Qaeda was not in Iraq before we got there. It didn't stop the Bush Administration from constantly trying to make that connection in reference to 9/11. If you mentioned Al Qaeda in an Administration speech, you better put Iraq in the same sentence, to justify that well thought out liberation plan; the one that has destabilized the region and resulted in an Al Qaeda that a recent reports indicate was at least as strong as it ever was.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
In response to: FBI raids Alaskan home of Senate wind farm opponent
Hee hee, this is like the Bushies mentioning Iraq and Al Qaeda together, to try and link them, while denying doing the same. I'm going to go for a link with Lindsay Lohan and Volkswagon, as she did appear in a Herbie the Love Bug movie.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: When businesses behave badly
In response to: When businesses behave badly
I certainly know I don't have the anger management issues other have :). And I didn't realize one could present a litany of questions without answers, be under the impression that they have facts, and claim anyone else is on drugs. That's funny stuff. Well Susan, please... go ahead and answer those. Perhaps you can get someone from CTS to talk about all these things! Thank you for pointing out all those items we don't have answers to. And by the way, I said Yarmouth was losing 130 jobs. Woohoo, let's celebrate! That's GREAT news for the Cape!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: SSA should be regulated by Islanders not the State
In response to: SSA should be regulated by Islanders not the State
Doug- do you have the bill number on this?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: When businesses behave badly
In response to: When businesses behave badly
Susan, and you are welcome to draw your own conclusions, nor do I need to give anything a rest. Perhaps, as was mentioned, Bilezikian was being disingenuous at the time and that the fix was already in for Middleborough. I'm glad there are people happy to lose 130 jobs from Yarmouth, and conveniently look at the so-called "big picture", if it suits them.
Oh and I meant to mention to manatee, re:Whole Foods.... As Harvey Pitt, formerly of the SEC said, what would the point be of doing this? And there are questions about whether this is engaging in manipulation. In fact, the SEC has opened an inquiry on same.
Oh and I meant to mention to manatee, re:Whole Foods.... As Harvey Pitt, formerly of the SEC said, what would the point be of doing this? And there are questions about whether this is engaging in manipulation. In fact, the SEC has opened an inquiry on same.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: When businesses behave badly
In response to: When businesses behave badly
When a company decides to move from Boston to the 'burbs, you don't find the mayor saying, since it's good for the company, I guess that's OK. If a company moves from one state to another, you don't havegovernors saying, well, it's OK, it's good for the company. And when a company is moving 130 jobs from the Cape, to 50 miles away, to be more accurate, people on the Cape should think that's OK. Especially from the same company that closed the Yarmouth 6A store because of what, the layout? As a Cape issue, losing 130 jobs is bad. Not letting employees talk is bad.
And don't go saying anything is ridiculous. If you go to Home Depot and are not satisfied with the experience in some way, do you keep going to Home Depot because it is a growing company? What if that poor experience has to do with how the company is run-
http://edugree.com/job-prep/worst-companies-to-work-for ?
Everyone makes choices, based on the information they have, what they perceive as their own interest, or even interest of their community.
And don't go saying anything is ridiculous. If you go to Home Depot and are not satisfied with the experience in some way, do you keep going to Home Depot because it is a growing company? What if that poor experience has to do with how the company is run-
http://edugree.com/job-prep/worst-companies-to-work-for ?
Everyone makes choices, based on the information they have, what they perceive as their own interest, or even interest of their community.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Buzz, what you asked, after posting 3 times, was where was I when they moved the warehouse. Answer, not blogging.
Your point to making that comment to Bittersweet was.....?
And Susan, dear Susan.... if you are going to talk about how someone does not understand something, it would again help to own a certain basic level of command of the English language. People do not "loose" jobs any more than they tighten them. Must have been another "Opppps" as you said in a prior post. Further, blathering about how I don't understand what you said, hardly refutes it. It was easy to flip your argument, because it was so weak. No one has to accept that the Cape will be this low paying, high cost of living sandbar. I don't accept apologists for whatever businesses do, regardless of it's impact on a community. Nor can the Cape survive that way. Read some of Margot Russell's blogs about that.
Your point to making that comment to Bittersweet was.....?
And Susan, dear Susan.... if you are going to talk about how someone does not understand something, it would again help to own a certain basic level of command of the English language. People do not "loose" jobs any more than they tighten them. Must have been another "Opppps" as you said in a prior post. Further, blathering about how I don't understand what you said, hardly refutes it. It was easy to flip your argument, because it was so weak. No one has to accept that the Cape will be this low paying, high cost of living sandbar. I don't accept apologists for whatever businesses do, regardless of it's impact on a community. Nor can the Cape survive that way. Read some of Margot Russell's blogs about that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Susan- pot and kettle time, rather than refuting anything, you've joined the screech. Not to mention missing the point sometimes about blogs. Typical of those with tunnelvision, you confuse understanding with difference. Because you made the points made them true? Of course not. Well if you are ok with Bed and Bath moving things off Cape and not caring about jobs, don't then turn around and be concerned about the people in the stores. Of folks having jobs on the Cape, far easier to get something in retail, isn't it? What we lack is well paying jobs with benefits.
And that would be "you're a wash out". And whatever form of disgust is shown at the owners of CTS is fine, they're not good neighbors to people on the Cape. They should get bad publicity down here. I won't be lectured by you or anyone about civic responsibility. You can argue that what is good for business is good for everyone and that particular piece of crap has been disproved over and over.
And that would be "you're a wash out". And whatever form of disgust is shown at the owners of CTS is fine, they're not good neighbors to people on the Cape. They should get bad publicity down here. I won't be lectured by you or anyone about civic responsibility. You can argue that what is good for business is good for everyone and that particular piece of crap has been disproved over and over.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Susan- if you laying in muck with those that pretend to make points, while merely wishing to be contrary and sarcastic, enjoy. It beats having a grasp of the issues.
There is a significant difference from a business perspective of moving the warehouse, versus the hq. They couldn't expand, the business was no longer as Cape based and transportation issues on the Cape are difficult. In this day and age, many companies are able to manage their operations, their headquarters from distances far greater than Yarmouth to anywhere they have a store. It is troubling that employees are not allowed to talk, nor have the original owners chimed in on this.
The point is, from a Cape perspective, it stinks. Perhaps we will be lucky and other opportunities will arise, one of the constructive places this conversation was going. When some miscreant asks in their original post, does it matter to me how far they have to drive, I'm not going to bother to explain that people should care about their community and neighbors, because the original poster said that just to be a jerk.
There is a significant difference from a business perspective of moving the warehouse, versus the hq. They couldn't expand, the business was no longer as Cape based and transportation issues on the Cape are difficult. In this day and age, many companies are able to manage their operations, their headquarters from distances far greater than Yarmouth to anywhere they have a store. It is troubling that employees are not allowed to talk, nor have the original owners chimed in on this.
The point is, from a Cape perspective, it stinks. Perhaps we will be lucky and other opportunities will arise, one of the constructive places this conversation was going. When some miscreant asks in their original post, does it matter to me how far they have to drive, I'm not going to bother to explain that people should care about their community and neighbors, because the original poster said that just to be a jerk.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Buzz, your only purpose is to be negative and talk about anything but the matter at hand. If I blogged about what a wonderful day it was, you would post it wasn't so good in Alabama and what's Deval Patrick going to do about it. That's been shown over and over and over. People that write in a serious, credible manner, get the same in return. You repeatedly invent scenarios that bear no reality to facts, just to try and get over. Therefore, I certainly don't have to make anything up to call you irrelevant, you've made your own bed.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Again, fool, you make assumptions about my life that have no basis in reality. Please find someone else to stalk.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Interesting. Are you suggesting the original owners were absolutely aware this would happen and any quotes, such as those in this article- http://www.barnstablepatriot.com/06-27-03-news/christmas.html, were made knowing they were legally bound to Middleborough?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Bittersweet, I have no idea what happened to your comment, the only time I have ever taken a comment down on my blog was for content I considered racist and in poor taste.
Peter, I commute to Boston everyday, I know what that's all about. It's a choice many people do make for a variety of reasons, but I can also speak to how that is taxing on a family also.
Strikes me as odd that on such a significant story, they were both unavailable for comment?
Peter, I commute to Boston everyday, I know what that's all about. It's a choice many people do make for a variety of reasons, but I can also speak to how that is taxing on a family also.
Strikes me as odd that on such a significant story, they were both unavailable for comment?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Peter- just going with what was reported, re: Mill Lane.
There's nothing wrong with outrage over one event, nor is there anything wrong with looking at how to better encourage business growth on the Cape. It is a significant news story for the Cape. There are plenty of questions to be answered.
There's nothing wrong with outrage over one event, nor is there anything wrong with looking at how to better encourage business growth on the Cape. It is a significant news story for the Cape. There are plenty of questions to be answered.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Peter- if, if, if :). Are you saying that the Belizekians own Mill Lane Management? The news stories say Mill Lane has not been notified of the departure, though I guess they are now, huh? What you have done is both identify problem (businesses are not attracted to the Cape) and opportunity. So this has not really gone anywhere beyond the knowledge that the headquarters is leaving and we don't know how employees will be taken care, and how this can be turned into an opportunity in that space. I agree that job creation on the Cape is a challenge, which leads me to be more pessimistic about what you present as opportunity.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
lol, glass house time for Mr Irrelevant :)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Ultimately Peter, they can do what they want. And in terms of clouding the issue with facts, don't conveniently leave out people that work further down the Cape. Further, the year is 2007. Companies much larger than CTS are able to manage operations, covering far more geography. Technology makes geography far less important. It's easy to say we lack information and can only cast stones; let those with that information talk openly about that. Let them talk about how they will take care of our neighbors. Let the employees talk, as clearly from this morning's article, they are not allowing that. It clouds the issue by raising the spectre of "outside forces" or the CCC. There are certainly serious questions that should be discussed about the economic environment on the Cape. Moving 130 jobs off the Cape surely does no good for us.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Buzz, poor Buzz..... your agenda is to be contrary, period. You offer nothing constructive. All you do is flail about, never speaking to the issue raised, preferring to just be contrary. Inherently, when jobs leave the Cape, it is a bad thing for people on the Cape, no matter when, no matter how, no matter whom. If they are not taking care of their people, they should pay a price for that. Literally, I laugh my ass off at any assumptions you make about me. That's pretty much what an ignorant pissant should expect. Go back and read the quotes The Blogfather found on this topic.
More importantly for the people affected, is a vague promise stated by a marketing exec that they plan to do everything they can to accommodate their employees. What that entails, no one is saying. And according to the article in the Cape Cod Times, employees are not being allowed to speak. I'd welcome hearing from someone inside at Yarmouth, to get a real sense of things and how they will be protected.
More importantly for the people affected, is a vague promise stated by a marketing exec that they plan to do everything they can to accommodate their employees. What that entails, no one is saying. And according to the article in the Cape Cod Times, employees are not being allowed to speak. I'd welcome hearing from someone inside at Yarmouth, to get a real sense of things and how they will be protected.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Well coming from the Grand Poobah of Making Stuff Up, I really don't worry about your latest rant of tangential matters that have nothing to do with the story. Sorry you don't care about people on the Cape, just your own convoluted, unsubstantiated and lost agenda. Buhbye.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
Well done. I think people on the Cape should express significant disgust over this and do so with their wallets, and make it known publically, in the tourist season that this sucks.
I'd love to see people protest outside the damn place and call news organizations that we'll be there.
How is this not on the Cape Cod Times website yet?
I'd love to see people protest outside the damn place and call news organizations that we'll be there.
How is this not on the Cape Cod Times website yet?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
In response to: No job losses? Try Again, Pinocchio
One would assume that things were in the wind. As I said, what speaks much about a company is how they take care of their employees in situations like this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Christy Mihos says goodbye Chavez, hello Gulf
In response to: Christy Mihos says goodbye Chavez, hello Gulf
The question would be where does Gulf get their oil from? The only thing I could find off a quick Google was it looked like Canada, perhaps someone else has info on this.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
I'm glad he defended Armitage, the boys gotta watch out for themselves y'know. If you are going to lie and perjure yourself, might as well defend him also.
And please, go read Clinton's book or better yet, go google and read Clinton's Op-Ed in the NY Times in 2/2001. And to say that Patrick hasn't been quoted on everything under the sun is more than ludicrous. It's not a matter as to whether you agree or not; it the ignorant statement that people acted without any explanation. Not surprised, at least I know you'll always invent something ridiculous.
And please, go read Clinton's book or better yet, go google and read Clinton's Op-Ed in the NY Times in 2/2001. And to say that Patrick hasn't been quoted on everything under the sun is more than ludicrous. It's not a matter as to whether you agree or not; it the ignorant statement that people acted without any explanation. Not surprised, at least I know you'll always invent something ridiculous.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Awww CCRepublican, following in the steps of the Bush Administration and making things up doesn't work so well. Enjoy- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/05/politics/wh/main915851.shtml
What the voters here are waking up to is the most Democratic state in the country, since you all were taken in by the snake oil guy Mr Romney. You must have slept through the '06 elections here and nationally, no surprise.
And Buzz, poor Buzz.... continuing to flail about on irrelevancy, half and quarter truths. Even your beloved Dubya has pardoned people that were convicted of drug offenses and bombing a coal mine. Nice! Some people pee in the wind, some stand in front of jet engines.
And most delicious Buzz, was you raising Marc Rich, while you gently caressed the brow of Scooter Libby, blessedly unaware that old Scooter represented Rich for 15 years and told Congress- "There are no facts that I know of that support the criminality of the client based on the tax returns."
Give Scooter a kiss for me, also.
What the voters here are waking up to is the most Democratic state in the country, since you all were taken in by the snake oil guy Mr Romney. You must have slept through the '06 elections here and nationally, no surprise.
And Buzz, poor Buzz.... continuing to flail about on irrelevancy, half and quarter truths. Even your beloved Dubya has pardoned people that were convicted of drug offenses and bombing a coal mine. Nice! Some people pee in the wind, some stand in front of jet engines.
And most delicious Buzz, was you raising Marc Rich, while you gently caressed the brow of Scooter Libby, blessedly unaware that old Scooter represented Rich for 15 years and told Congress- "There are no facts that I know of that support the criminality of the client based on the tax returns."
Give Scooter a kiss for me, also.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
I'll see you your Roger Clinton and raise you a Caspar Weinberger. You boys really ought to learn about the ill effects of peeing in the wind.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Little obsessed, Buzz? When it comes to criticizing people you don't know, go back to your's and Mav's remarks about teachers as a starting point. There is your lesson in cowardice and ignorance. And I see that you still cannot stay on topic, lol. Thank you, I assume that, to the point of the original post, you have no answer :). I look forward to the next time I post, and you send it off in a hundred different directions. Beats reality any day!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Too funny, slams teachers, gets called on it and I'm sensitive. I don't sling mud, I think of it as holding up the mirror.
And as always, thank you for posting, it really does help convince people on the borderline that there are some very scary folks out there.
And as always, thank you for posting, it really does help convince people on the borderline that there are some very scary folks out there.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Ummm Buzz, between you and Mav, the slur on teachers was clear, regardless of where it was directed and if I thought you all could be embarassed about that, I might expect either of you to step and acknowledge that it was over the line. Typical, you both flail about talking about anything but what the original post was about.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Buzz and Maverick... glad you boys had a chance to prattle on, but ummmmm, you miscreants apparently think I am a teacher in the schools. There goes your reality again, I'm not, but thank good ness your great minds were able to get together and smear teachers, because it's pretty mainstream thinking to diss on educators. Certainly a proud moment. And one thing I do know about being involved in the schools and my kids' education is that responsibility is still taught in many ways in the schools. This despite the poor example shown at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
And Buzz, maybe you should ask Walter if you can start a blog called- Things I Make Up and Can't Back Up. Happy 4th
And Buzz, maybe you should ask Walter if you can start a blog called- Things I Make Up and Can't Back Up. Happy 4th
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Buzz, you silly boy, you asked me why Fitzgerald didn't prosecute someone. If you find that a legitimate question, then there would be one case of nonsense. Your half brained remark about teaching, would be two strikes. Desperately avoiding the issue with invented criticism of Patrick, strike three. Has nothing to do with it. In regards to your Post editorial, please share the writer of that editorial, as that appears nowhere in today's lead editorial-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/02/AR2007070201611.html. Please apply the same curiousity to asking yourself the question, well if there was no crime, why would Scooter Libby have to lie? And then ask why George Bush is a hypocrite about the Libby case, in the face of overwhelming evidence as to Bush's view about intervening in such matters. Reality babe, sure sucks for you sometimes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/02/AR2007070201611.html. Please apply the same curiousity to asking yourself the question, well if there was no crime, why would Scooter Libby have to lie? And then ask why George Bush is a hypocrite about the Libby case, in the face of overwhelming evidence as to Bush's view about intervening in such matters. Reality babe, sure sucks for you sometimes.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
Well Buzz, when in doubt, spouting nonsense seems to work for you.
Joe Biden noted today that the Bush Administration filed a friend of the court brief to the Supreme Court asking to uphold a 33 month sentence for Victor Rita as reasonable. Seems Mr Rita, a 25 year military vet and former civilian employee was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice.
Even better, let's go to George's "autobiography":
"I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own, unless there are new facts or evidence of which a jury was unaware, or evidence that the trial was somehow unfair."
Joe Biden noted today that the Bush Administration filed a friend of the court brief to the Supreme Court asking to uphold a 33 month sentence for Victor Rita as reasonable. Seems Mr Rita, a 25 year military vet and former civilian employee was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice.
Even better, let's go to George's "autobiography":
"I don’t believe my role is to replace the verdict of a jury with my own, unless there are new facts or evidence of which a jury was unaware, or evidence that the trial was somehow unfair."
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
You can imagine anything you want Buzz, it sure beats dealing with reality.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
I think the emphasis in that post would be "simple". Awww I shouldn't say that, I should encourage people to make those posts, it helps isolate the problem.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
In response to: Bush- More dangerous when there's nothing left to lose
While I'm impressed that you think I or someone here may be privvy to Fitzgerald's inner sanctum, I'm afraid that is not the case. And please, spare me the sour note about what is excessive. Bush's hypocrisy on this was noted. Today's SF Chronicle points out other cases, more deserving, that perhaps Bush should also hold under the same criteria- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/07/03/EDG6QQ4TM41.DTL
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz- I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Now having said that, there would have to be permission slips for any field trip. The permission slip said the students would be going on a social service scavenger hunt, that clearly wasn't enough. Surprising no one would have asked ahead of time. And apparenly, it was in conjunction with a program from the YMCA, though perhaps the "C" was missing?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
"Arrogance" would be your answer, to supporting this awful bill. I can live with that. You simply don't get it, that is not just my opinion. Live with that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Georgia- I agree, but I guess Perry withdrawing is a small victory. I think he has some 'splainin to do why his name was on there in the first place. Now there is no chance this would ever be law, we know that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz- those are the definitions in the actual bill, they aren't mine. Every time you post, you show that you either have not read the bill, or understand it's implications, despite numerous examples provided by people throughout this thread. I've answered and explained plenty here and am not playing your game anymore. I doubt that you are really ok with gay marriage, if you find this bill legit. All you want to discuss is ticky tack little things that you have been asked numerous times to document, and you cannot.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz- did you ask others to do your homework for you in school? OK, here's the text from S321:
A. Definitions. As used in this section –
1. The term “alternative sexual behavior” means homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism, transsexuality, transgenderism, cross-dressing, pansexuality, promiscuity, sodomy, pederasty, prostitution, oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, polygamy, polyandry, sex re-assignment treatments, “bondage and discipline”, sado-masochism, bestiality, and similar behaviors. It also includes issues and relationships deriving from those behaviors, including but not limited to “sexual orientation”, and alternative family, parenting, and marriage constructs.
A. Definitions. As used in this section –
1. The term “alternative sexual behavior” means homosexuality, bisexuality, lesbianism, transsexuality, transgenderism, cross-dressing, pansexuality, promiscuity, sodomy, pederasty, prostitution, oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, polygamy, polyandry, sex re-assignment treatments, “bondage and discipline”, sado-masochism, bestiality, and similar behaviors. It also includes issues and relationships deriving from those behaviors, including but not limited to “sexual orientation”, and alternative family, parenting, and marriage constructs.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Perhaps by bondage, he meant the fair and balanced way that slavery is covered in history classes? Just heard this morning about how a secret area was discovered in George Washington's home in Philadelphia, where slaves would hide when our first president had guests. The home is close to the Liberty Bell, irony noted.
Thank you for updating the antics of the Cleaver household....
Thank you for updating the antics of the Cleaver household....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz, I didn't realize there was one dictionary and in it, the absolute definition.
I see you concede that, even here in the information age, you cannot find anything to support your idea of what might be happening in the schools.
And one more time, if you don't see or understand how lumping together a reference to a gay individual and someone that engages in bestiality is repulsive, then there is simply nothing else to say to you.
I see you concede that, even here in the information age, you cannot find anything to support your idea of what might be happening in the schools.
And one more time, if you don't see or understand how lumping together a reference to a gay individual and someone that engages in bestiality is repulsive, then there is simply nothing else to say to you.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
First, I would make the point that those definitions are severely flawed. Second, you've mentioned that there is existing state law that covers your concern. Third, again the point is missed. The purpose of those crafted this bill was to INCLUDE gays, lesbians and bi-sexuals. Fourth, you've been asked to cite a reference where teachers just ohhhh, casually drop in a discussion about bestiality, for example, in any classroom, K-12. So here's what's funny, what you have left is saying- hey teachers, you need to send a note home when your course is going to cover sodomy! Because as we know, all these things are a regular part of the curriculum.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz.... are you saying the MGL I quoted doesn't take care of that?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Paint-ism, at it's worst ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Capemom, I was going to ask the same question. And to show that this is not about sex education, let's go to Mass General Laws, Ch71:
Section 32A. Every city, town, regional school district or vocational school district implementing or maintaining curriculum which primarily involves human sexual education or human sexuality issues shall adopt a policy ensuring parental/guardian notification. Such policy shall afford parents or guardians the flexibility to exempt their children from any portion of said curriculum through written notification to the school principal. No child so exempted shall be penalized by reason of such exemption.
Said policy shall be in writing, formally adopted by the school committee as a school district policy and distributed by September first, nineteen hundred and ninety-seven, and each year thereafter to each principal in the district. A copy of each school district’s policy must be sent to the department of education after adoption.
Section 32A. Every city, town, regional school district or vocational school district implementing or maintaining curriculum which primarily involves human sexual education or human sexuality issues shall adopt a policy ensuring parental/guardian notification. Such policy shall afford parents or guardians the flexibility to exempt their children from any portion of said curriculum through written notification to the school principal. No child so exempted shall be penalized by reason of such exemption.
Said policy shall be in writing, formally adopted by the school committee as a school district policy and distributed by September first, nineteen hundred and ninety-seven, and each year thereafter to each principal in the district. A copy of each school district’s policy must be sent to the department of education after adoption.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
No Buzz, I'm not cherry picking and I don't need to discuss anything further that you do not understand, and continue to do. Equating a historical fact with a religious belief of faith is an apples and porterhouse steak example, indicative of someone that is floundering about, trying to find one thing that sticks. Once you find that one thing, feel free to petition the Great and General Court on it, and not making sweeping legislation that is odious.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz, if anything, facts escape you, demonstrated by your need to cherry pick examples, versus the bill in it's entirety.
And the answer to your question is no. Would you like them, or anyone else, also notified about any other aspect of life that they do not agree with?
And the answer to your question is no. Would you like them, or anyone else, also notified about any other aspect of life that they do not agree with?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
One more time, the bill is far more reaching in scope than the example you provided (Should their children have the right to "opt-out" of a class that's teaching homosexuality is "acceptable"). Since you put quotes around the word acceptable, perhaps you can elaborate on that, or provide a cite where there is a school system teaching that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Thank you for reinforcing the idea that you simply don't get it. A bill is presented in it's entirety, one doesn't get to cherry pick that you agree with part of it and not with other parts. You don't get it, and you are at minimum disingenuous to suggest anyone else is spinning it.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
It's amazing that Buzz claimed others didn't understand the bill, simply amazing.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Yes Bub, people are focusing about the sex, but I would also point out that a number of the specific items listed in the bill are sexual in nature, which is also intentional.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
No Buzz, I used "naive" to be polite. I'll avoid that mistake in the future, if you wish.
Buzz, no matter how many times you and others try to, in your word, "spin" it- it has nothing to do with formal, planned curriculum. It is all encompassing to any school activity. It has NOTHING to do with teaching little Bobby and Mary about bestiality. Like Capemom said, you think those things are happening in the schools? It is to prevent ANY mention of gays, lesbians or bisexuals in ANY context. Got it?
Buzz, no matter how many times you and others try to, in your word, "spin" it- it has nothing to do with formal, planned curriculum. It is all encompassing to any school activity. It has NOTHING to do with teaching little Bobby and Mary about bestiality. Like Capemom said, you think those things are happening in the schools? It is to prevent ANY mention of gays, lesbians or bisexuals in ANY context. Got it?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Bub, that is simply incorrect. I said earlier in quoting the bill, it was not about sex, it was about referring at all to any of the listed criteria, in any school context.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
And in the GOOD NEWS department, it appears that Rep. Perry is no longer a co-sponsor at least, of this bill.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Buzz, don't be naive. If that's the best you have, move on.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
Yes Buzz, I read the bill. And clearly I understand it better, because it includes, gays, lesbians and bisexuals in with other terminology that villifies the aforementioned groups. Lump them all together! It's a scare tactic that you bought hook, line and sinker that any of those actually happen in an elementary environment, or that it could without consequence.
Cape Cod Republican, there is nothing that precludes parents from teaching their kids. Color it however you want, it is about demonizing gays, lesbians and bisexuals. All the dancing in the world doesn't change that.
Cape Cod Republican, there is nothing that precludes parents from teaching their kids. Color it however you want, it is about demonizing gays, lesbians and bisexuals. All the dancing in the world doesn't change that.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
No Buzz, it's nothing like Christmas. Schools do holidays, I've been into the schools on a number of occasions to talk about Jewish holidays. These things are acknowledged because they are also a part of whom our students are. And I specifically picked the word "acknowledge", the idea that the human experience covers a lot of ground. And also by "acknowledge", I mean the idea that one is not held up as more important or better than another.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
If you read the bill, it is not about teaching sexuality. The definition of "school program" in this bill touches everything:
"...any school sanctioned activity, or portion thereof, whether on or off campus, whether during or outside school hours, whether organized, presented or directed by school employees, agents of the school, students, volunteers, or others. This shall include, but not be limited to classes, curriculum, assemblies, outside speakers, workshops, clubs, exhibits, private or non-private counseling sessions, ‘teachable moments’, reading assignments, videos, posters, displays, and handouts."
It's not about a sexual education class, it is to make sure that in any school activity, you will not mention gays or lesbians, K-12, in any context. One of the more heinous pieces of legislation that you'll find.
"...any school sanctioned activity, or portion thereof, whether on or off campus, whether during or outside school hours, whether organized, presented or directed by school employees, agents of the school, students, volunteers, or others. This shall include, but not be limited to classes, curriculum, assemblies, outside speakers, workshops, clubs, exhibits, private or non-private counseling sessions, ‘teachable moments’, reading assignments, videos, posters, displays, and handouts."
It's not about a sexual education class, it is to make sure that in any school activity, you will not mention gays or lesbians, K-12, in any context. One of the more heinous pieces of legislation that you'll find.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
In response to: Jeff Perry- Adding to the Anti-Gay Record
The bill states public schools, no differentiation. The entire text can be read here:
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/185/st00/st00321.htm
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/185/st00/st00321.htm
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Some NH Debate follow ups
In response to: Some NH Debate follow ups
You're sure you're not the most rabid GOP girl here? I'd say your opening was shallow enough to be a contendah.
It will take a Democratic president to get us out of Iraq, so yeah, right now it's not so good to be a soldier in the middle of this incredible morass that was created by George Bush.
It will take a Democratic president to get us out of Iraq, so yeah, right now it's not so good to be a soldier in the middle of this incredible morass that was created by George Bush.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Route 28A: Ice Cream Lovers' Heaven
In response to: Route 28A: Ice Cream Lovers' Heaven
Hmmmm Falmouth.... you have to include Ben and Bill's, where you can be brave and try lobster ice cream and the ice cream stand at Coonamessett Farms is very, very good as judged by my expert offspring.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Some NH Debate follow ups
In response to: Some NH Debate follow ups
No sir, Blitzer was really the one whom controlled answers and follow ups, no clock that I know of.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: We Are All Screwed
In response to: We Are All Screwed
Peter- why can't they pass on the price? We hear all the time about how our cost living is higher for the uniquitous rationale of "you're on the Cape". And why would Walmarts in this state be any different than any other employer? The major issue I have is the theory that those that were paying for health insurance were also paying for those without, so now that everyone is supposed to have insurance, that won't happen. The idea that this will translate to less pressure on rising costs is a leap of faith in the free market that I'm not willing to make.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: We Are All Screwed
In response to: We Are All Screwed
LeeAnn- we can agree to disagree, but I don't have an issue with employers having to provide health care, particularly here on the Cape. It is a public good and part of the price of doing business for most places. The argument that people opted out for better wages may or may not be true in this example, but as I've mentioned time and time again, wages on the Cape are 20% below the state average. If the benefits are lousy in addition to that, then I don't have a lot of sympathy.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: We Are All Screwed
In response to: We Are All Screwed
Lee Ann, I'm fascinated by the example that you gave of one employer claiming their 50% contribution of $3000, rise to $9000/month. First off, if $3000 is 50%, what does that make $9K? Second, it appears from the state's requirement of what a business with more than 10 employees must contribute, this person is already in compliance. Third, if in fact the contribution was going to triple, why not just pay the per employee penalty of $295? So aside from receiving lower wages, Cape workers should get worse benefits?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Two Cape Cods: Hidden Poverty
In response to: Two Cape Cods: Hidden Poverty
Capemom, where you say if it was so bad for people, it would be hasta Cape Cod, what would you call the increasingly older demographic? The diminishing populations in schools? For those that stay, there are many reasons. I certainly take a huge economic hit because I work in Boston, pay my child support, provide health care for them and choose to live here to be near them. If people are going to make up their minds by anecdote, I thought I should contribute.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Two Cape Cods: Hidden Poverty
In response to: Two Cape Cods: Hidden Poverty
Thank you Margot, for talking about this. It seems for many,it is easier to lay complete blame on those that find themselves in that position. The number and types of choices people have, varies greatly. A simple fact that I have mentioned elsewhere underscores part of the problem- average wages on the Cape are 20% below the state average. Wages are low, cost of living is highand it doesn't take a genius to know that is not sustainable.
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In response to: Tourism: We Can Do Better
In response to: Tourism: We Can Do Better
Margot, while the words, "amen, sistah" were forming, I do have a caveat. It isn't just the Cape, as I'm sure many would agree that there are too many instances of people being less civil and laissez faire about too many things. Took a long time to become this way and sadly, would take a long time to get back.
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In response to: How your local daily promotes tourist spending on Cape Cod
In response to: How your local daily promotes tourist spending on Cape Cod
And here I thought the truth shall set you free :)
At least it left off overcrowded, inadequately staffed supermarkets and The Old Country Buffet.
At least it left off overcrowded, inadequately staffed supermarkets and The Old Country Buffet.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: And in Flyover News.....
In response to: And in Flyover News.....
Actually I can report at 4:30, traffic was moving well from Rt3 over the Sagamore. Slow once you got over, could be a people cutting across after they get across Bourne?
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In response to: I'm with Bill
In response to: I'm with Bill
Excellent! I dug this up, he played with Cotuit in '68
W-L ERA G IP SO
1968: 0-1 1.04 11 17 1/3 20
Edit- The Kettleers website says 1967. The other amusing anecdote is Richardson having to recant a claim he was drafted by MBL, lol
W-L ERA G IP SO
1968: 0-1 1.04 11 17 1/3 20
Edit- The Kettleers website says 1967. The other amusing anecdote is Richardson having to recant a claim he was drafted by MBL, lol
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Lower Cape Little League for 2007
In response to: The Lower Cape Little League for 2007
Kids playing baseball, how dang great is that to see. Now if this is the same Brewster team that plays over at the Eddy school, the folks involved did a GREAT job at re-doing the baseball field there.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Hankerin' for a burger and a beer...root, that is
In response to: Hankerin' for a burger and a beer...root, that is
And you can enjoy your root beer in a frosty mug, a key element to the entire experience :)
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In response to: For those of you who miss Dan Yonce
In response to: For those of you who miss Dan Yonce
Dan, I'll have to print this out for my father in law, Karl Clark and the rest of the "old men" still sitting in the Post Office. Jeez was that you, Walter ;) ?
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In response to: A couple of Cape political events
In response to: A couple of Cape political events
I would imagine that the food is being catered by the cafe onsite at Willy's.
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In response to: Now this is a truly wretched idea.
In response to: Now this is a truly wretched idea.
Capri- if you can point out to me one example in the entire country of what you call fair, unbiased and honest reporting, I'd love to see it. And certainly in the blogosphere, there is no expectation of that, any more than a columnist. Too often people equate your list of adjectives with what whom they agree with.
Capemom, the concern I would have is the outsourced news has no context of local knowledge. Having said that, I suspect I could sit on my butt at home, watching local access channels and write something about various town meetings and Selectmen's meetings. It would be dry, but it could be done.
Capemom, the concern I would have is the outsourced news has no context of local knowledge. Having said that, I suspect I could sit on my butt at home, watching local access channels and write something about various town meetings and Selectmen's meetings. It would be dry, but it could be done.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Now this is a truly wretched idea.
In response to: Now this is a truly wretched idea.
Dan Kennedy is really a treasure for his work, and of course, as is the Blogfather for recognizing it ;)
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
So you're suggesting that each town hire a couple people to check listings and make calls under the pretense of how much and whether a certain week or month is booked? Even online, you'll only get a certain percentage and it will become a cat and mouse game to find these.
And as far as cost cutting, I'm always curious as to the specifics.
And as far as cost cutting, I'm always curious as to the specifics.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
Sorry you don't like being called on not writing up to the standards you propose here.
Actually, what most Americans have come realize, not just a group of activists, is that you cannot go it alone. The current administration has isolated the U.S. We're the ones spending hundreds of billions on the morass in Iraq, sending our kids home killed and wounded. We're the ones that maintain a propped government in Afghanistan, that has little power beyond Kabul. That doesn't work, never has. It's common sense, actually the type of common sense that Bush 41 had in regards to Iraq.
Actually, what most Americans have come realize, not just a group of activists, is that you cannot go it alone. The current administration has isolated the U.S. We're the ones spending hundreds of billions on the morass in Iraq, sending our kids home killed and wounded. We're the ones that maintain a propped government in Afghanistan, that has little power beyond Kabul. That doesn't work, never has. It's common sense, actually the type of common sense that Bush 41 had in regards to Iraq.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
Buzz- I have more of a problem with earmarks, when there are reports of roads and transit facing a $19 billion shortfall. And it is about revenue, not misplaced spending priorities. It is also about how much is an appropriate amount to have in the rainy day fund, because that's what HR1 dips into.
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In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
True enough about Ch70, which is why it's also good to see the one that takes out the Ch70 piece also.
Spyro- I don't want the state taking any of that chunk :). The people that know what units in their town are being rented are the people in the town, add another layer by moving it up to the state level, I don't think it works. It's one thing to collect taxes on a business registered with the state. Are you saying that all these people that rent houses, etc should (and will) register with the state? How is it going to be reported that someone rented unit X for some unknown amount of money for some unknown period of time? Or will there be a mechanism, an administrative authority to review these?
I'd much rather see a fee, versus a tax, at the local level.
Spyro- I don't want the state taking any of that chunk :). The people that know what units in their town are being rented are the people in the town, add another layer by moving it up to the state level, I don't think it works. It's one thing to collect taxes on a business registered with the state. Are you saying that all these people that rent houses, etc should (and will) register with the state? How is it going to be reported that someone rented unit X for some unknown amount of money for some unknown period of time? Or will there be a mechanism, an administrative authority to review these?
I'd much rather see a fee, versus a tax, at the local level.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
In response to: Raise those hotel and meals taxes for the local governments
I'm open to that tree also, but with hotel/meals piece has more impetus behind it right now. The big question I have with the cottage and house taxation is how it will be managed by the towns. Towns right now do not have the ability to adequately perform duties such as health inspections. I want to hear more about how this will be administered.
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In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
And I hope you don't take the blog subtitle seriously- "Where solving problems trumps salving ideology"
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
Funny stuff. Actually, you're argument is more of world opinion finding the U.S. a threat to world peace, rather than on the homefront. Further, you distort the argument. I am not picking out one aspect of Cho's history. As I've said, there needs to be a means to connect the dots that would have painted a more complete picture of Cho's troubled mind. Blaming "Democratic Activists" is yet another misguided, unsupportable diatribe, particularly lamentable and denigrating to the people and victims of Virginia Tech and civilized, thinking adults.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
Over-reacting in your stating that addressing Cho would result in "claims of racism, swift litigation, indignant intervention by the ACLU and NRA, a steep financial settlement for the aggrieved." When you have your ducks in order those things simply don't happen. When you don't, it doesn't matter what your demographics are.
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In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
In response to: Waiting until the threat is imminent
Jack- I think it is equally over-reacting to suggest that had there been more intervention, all the things you mentioned as ramifications would have occurred. What was missing, what failed was that the numerous dots were not connected. We have the benefit of hindsight to see all those red flags. The key question is how to have a process that will do that.
From my experience, working in residence life at universities for 8 years, I might be very familiar with an individual's behavior in that environment. I would not know anything about his academic life, or interactions that occur in other environments on campus. I would suggest that colleges need some sort of centralized information gathering for starters.
From my experience, working in residence life at universities for 8 years, I might be very familiar with an individual's behavior in that environment. I would not know anything about his academic life, or interactions that occur in other environments on campus. I would suggest that colleges need some sort of centralized information gathering for starters.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Deval worked for Ameriquest? Really? Gee, I guess that hasn't been covered, thanks for the breaking news! Actually Whatthe, all you pretty much got is a banal rehash of the usual whining. To stay on track, you remain as uninformed and uncivil as Howie Carr, if you enjoy life amongst the bottom dwellers, who am I to argue?
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In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
I'm glad you're amused, even if it is factually inaccurate, he must be planning another book. And doesn't read his own paper-
http://business.bostonherald.com/realestateNews/view.bg?articleid=194248
Or the competition-
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/04/06/hub_gets_limited_anticrime_funding/
And actually the number of shootings in Boston is down 27% so far this year, so hats off to the new Commish in Beantown.
http://business.bostonherald.com/realestateNews/view.bg?articleid=194248
Or the competition-
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/04/06/hub_gets_limited_anticrime_funding/
And actually the number of shootings in Boston is down 27% so far this year, so hats off to the new Commish in Beantown.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
I always get a good laugh out of logically presented and well thought out posts.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Thoughts on Virginia Tech
In response to: Thoughts on Virginia Tech
Buzz- I think that's some of what needs to come out, more information about how this person was evaluated. As far as privacy, here is some language from Connecticut College:
FERPA also allows a college to disclose information to "appropriate parties," which may include parents, without written consent from the student, in emergency situations when notification is determined to be necessary to protect the health or safety of the student or others. This notification may occur due to a medical emergency, or incident of imminent danger. Connecticut College does reserve the right to make such notifications in those extraordinary situations. Under FERPA, a college also has discretion to disclose to any parent or legal guardian of a student under the age of 21 information about a violation of any federal state or local law, or any rule or policy of the institution governing the use or possession of alcohol or a controlled substance, if the institution has determined that the student has committed a disciplinary violation with respect to such use or possession.
FERPA also allows a college to disclose information to "appropriate parties," which may include parents, without written consent from the student, in emergency situations when notification is determined to be necessary to protect the health or safety of the student or others. This notification may occur due to a medical emergency, or incident of imminent danger. Connecticut College does reserve the right to make such notifications in those extraordinary situations. Under FERPA, a college also has discretion to disclose to any parent or legal guardian of a student under the age of 21 information about a violation of any federal state or local law, or any rule or policy of the institution governing the use or possession of alcohol or a controlled substance, if the institution has determined that the student has committed a disciplinary violation with respect to such use or possession.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Maverick, you raised the poor example of demonizing the president, make comments suggesting I was a "big fat hypocrite", etc. You simply don't like when someone stands up to you. Too bad.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Mav, there are those that look for any opportunity to promote a agenda, regardless of topic. Guess who!
If you consider a crude, one trick pony a truth teller, well.....
If you consider a crude, one trick pony a truth teller, well.....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
I was always partial to the Stones- "Raise a glass to the hard working people, let's drink to the salt of the earth", but that was before Mick and Paul McCartney had ALL the money.
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In response to: Govenor held forum last night despite the storm
In response to: Govenor held forum last night despite the storm
Heck of a try Buzz, but if I may quote from today's Globe (http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2007/04/18/state_lands_solar_panel_factory/):
"Patrick toured the Marlborough facility on the campaign trail last fall and met privately with Farber, Feldt, and Congressman Jim McGovern, Democrat of Worcester. Farber said no one in former governor Mitt Romney's administration had shown a similar "receptiveness." State officials met with executives again after Patrick's election."
That 100,000 number comes from the Governor, so if he's putting it out there, hold him accountable.
"Patrick toured the Marlborough facility on the campaign trail last fall and met privately with Farber, Feldt, and Congressman Jim McGovern, Democrat of Worcester. Farber said no one in former governor Mitt Romney's administration had shown a similar "receptiveness." State officials met with executives again after Patrick's election."
That 100,000 number comes from the Governor, so if he's putting it out there, hold him accountable.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
It's a sloppy work, and that should be no surprise.
The point is to remain active and committed to holding public officials up to high standards and call them when that doesn't happen. You could fill in any number of state names or head down to DC and list your scandals. Pick an industry, say tobacco, and you have scandal. People frequently fail to "do the right thing" and depending on what that is, should be held appropriately accountable.
Trust me, I have big issues with the legislature. I remember vividly and proudly at a Mass State Democratic Convention, Finneran being boo'ed roundly by the delegate. Yet the House continued to be run by him- outrageous.
The point is to remain active and committed to holding public officials up to high standards and call them when that doesn't happen. You could fill in any number of state names or head down to DC and list your scandals. Pick an industry, say tobacco, and you have scandal. People frequently fail to "do the right thing" and depending on what that is, should be held appropriately accountable.
Trust me, I have big issues with the legislature. I remember vividly and proudly at a Mass State Democratic Convention, Finneran being boo'ed roundly by the delegate. Yet the House continued to be run by him- outrageous.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Waving the flag that at least he wasn't sued, is not much of a defense against the factual errors cited.
Remember the suspension Dennis and Callahan on WEEI served over this:
Callahan: "They caught him at a bus stop, right -- he was like waiting to catch a bus out of town."
Dennis: "Yeah, yeah -- he's a METCO gorilla."
John Kerry was interviewed on NY1 News and indicated he didn't support Imus' firing:
“To me it was in the hands of the young women. They made the judgment that they thought he was genuine and they felt they could forgive him. And I think it was appropriate to pay a price on the airwaves but I’m not sure that it was appropriate to say you’re off forever.”
Asked if he would appear on Imus in the future, Kerry responded.“It would depend on what the context of the show was obviously. If he goes back to doing the same old same old I’d have trouble doing that, but if it’s a different show and he says it’s going to be different sure.”
Remember the suspension Dennis and Callahan on WEEI served over this:
Callahan: "They caught him at a bus stop, right -- he was like waiting to catch a bus out of town."
Dennis: "Yeah, yeah -- he's a METCO gorilla."
John Kerry was interviewed on NY1 News and indicated he didn't support Imus' firing:
“To me it was in the hands of the young women. They made the judgment that they thought he was genuine and they felt they could forgive him. And I think it was appropriate to pay a price on the airwaves but I’m not sure that it was appropriate to say you’re off forever.”
Asked if he would appear on Imus in the future, Kerry responded.“It would depend on what the context of the show was obviously. If he goes back to doing the same old same old I’d have trouble doing that, but if it’s a different show and he says it’s going to be different sure.”
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Let it be noted that Carr's book is, well how do we best say this.... flawed? He has his opinions and on occasion he is on target, but the book? Read from the following- http://www.thephoenix.com/Article.aspx?id=6742&page=1
Imus was not on his way out, as he still brought in millions to Westwood 1 and MSNBC. Certainly one aspect of the decision to fire Imus, versus suspend and hope it blew over, was the fact that a number of large advertisers, including Proctor and Gamble, pulled out.
Imus was not on his way out, as he still brought in millions to Westwood 1 and MSNBC. Certainly one aspect of the decision to fire Imus, versus suspend and hope it blew over, was the fact that a number of large advertisers, including Proctor and Gamble, pulled out.
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In response to: Valid criticism - from the opposition
In response to: Valid criticism - from the opposition
As fascinating a read as this has been, ultimately, it would seem that Cape Wind should be held accountable to respond. Is dredging needed, over how much of an area and by what means? Seems a simple thing to ask.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
So funny, some of you will do anything to go off topic, heck let's go back to Clinton, lol. OK Mav, I think it was awful for Clinton to support the Marriage Defense Act. Or that he couldn't spend money as well as GWB- http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-31-03.html . And that will be the last word off-topic.
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In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Buzz- newsflash: it doesn't take long to get Carr's act. And you claiming to know as fact is of course completely without any supporting information. And finally, any people that engage in perpetuating negative stereotypes contribute the culture that displays bias against those individuals or groups.
Mav- I find it tasteless and disrespectful to the kids and families affected by the VA Tech story to suggest there is any equivalence. I'm sure that was not your intent.
Pointing out the many and varied flaws of an administration that has earned national and international scorn, is not demonizing the person. Frankly, it's pretty easy to stick to the issues without resorting to (and I acknowledge people do it)calling him an idiot.
Mav- I find it tasteless and disrespectful to the kids and families affected by the VA Tech story to suggest there is any equivalence. I'm sure that was not your intent.
Pointing out the many and varied flaws of an administration that has earned national and international scorn, is not demonizing the person. Frankly, it's pretty easy to stick to the issues without resorting to (and I acknowledge people do it)calling him an idiot.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Sure, I would call that the latest piece of undocumented opportunism to promote an agenda.
I thought it was Elvis that was going to lead us all to hell? Or was that the violence I was exposed to in RoadRunner cartoons? I think you need to look a little deeper into what's wrong with our culture that is so much more violent than other western cultures that have access to the same music, the same video games.
And one part of that goes right back to Imus and Carr- lack of civility. When you demonize individuals or groups of people, it's a lot easier to perpetuate harm to them.
I thought it was Elvis that was going to lead us all to hell? Or was that the violence I was exposed to in RoadRunner cartoons? I think you need to look a little deeper into what's wrong with our culture that is so much more violent than other western cultures that have access to the same music, the same video games.
And one part of that goes right back to Imus and Carr- lack of civility. When you demonize individuals or groups of people, it's a lot easier to perpetuate harm to them.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
To suggest that because a hot topic before the legislature is being discussed on Carr's show, and other talk radio shows is indicative of some self determined, undocumented influence of Carr, is what I would find naive. If you want to cite something indicating that Carr or other shows then influenced people to contact their state reps, I'd welcome seeing that.
The Duke campus has a lot of healing to do. Now I don't know what, if anything is being done to the lacrosse players as far as Duke's own system is concerned. Having worked that side of the street in education, the disciplinary process of a university is not the same as the court system.
The Duke campus has a lot of healing to do. Now I don't know what, if anything is being done to the lacrosse players as far as Duke's own system is concerned. Having worked that side of the street in education, the disciplinary process of a university is not the same as the court system.
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In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
I remember it well, so what? The idea that Carr bears influence on the legislature is still laughable and unproven. It is also another example of "bad Howie"- quick example from Media Nation blog- http://medianation.blogspot.com/2006/10/carr-talk.html. Howie Carr is entertainment for the sophmoric set, that thinks it's funny to call people fat, or play a disgusting sound effect when making fun of anyone gay.
Well 80 times or whatever, as I said, the DA screwed up royally and there will be repercussions.
Well 80 times or whatever, as I said, the DA screwed up royally and there will be repercussions.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Pretty funny if you think Carr influences the legislature, laugh out loud funny. It's nice when someone uses their 1st Amendment rights to not know what they are talking about.
Everyone expects the Duke players to make against the D.A. and it certainly sounds like they have a legit case, based on the stories of how poorly this was handled. Student-athletes are no choir boys, but that case was profoundly mismanaged and they will have their day in court if they choose. And the women of the Rutgers basketball team has and will have plenty of opportunity to demonstrate how stereotypes aren't worth crap.
Everyone expects the Duke players to make against the D.A. and it certainly sounds like they have a legit case, based on the stories of how poorly this was handled. Student-athletes are no choir boys, but that case was profoundly mismanaged and they will have their day in court if they choose. And the women of the Rutgers basketball team has and will have plenty of opportunity to demonstrate how stereotypes aren't worth crap.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Well Buzz, keep on dancing :). The point is not about Carr's issue with Imus, it is about what Carr does, versus Imus, versus many other members of the print and broadcast media. And I didn't know there was a right time to cross the line. It's not much of a reflection on all of us if name-calling bores are what's considered entertainment.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
I agree that it should be voted on, as I believe Senator Murray does.
What Carr spewed has nothing to do with moralism. You asked for an example of Carr saying something offensive to a group of people and so you got it. No accident that he used the term "perversion".
And don't tell me what to write, thanks. Carr is just one of many convenient examples of people that carry on a culture of hate and incivility. If you care, it is easy enough for you to Google Imus and Tomorrow's Children Fund or CJ Foundation.
What Carr spewed has nothing to do with moralism. You asked for an example of Carr saying something offensive to a group of people and so you got it. No accident that he used the term "perversion".
And don't tell me what to write, thanks. Carr is just one of many convenient examples of people that carry on a culture of hate and incivility. If you care, it is easy enough for you to Google Imus and Tomorrow's Children Fund or CJ Foundation.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Sure, no problem.... Carr on gay marriage:
"Everyone has to pretend that this will be the end of it. You will be hounded by the PC Police if you state the obvious, that if the perversion du jour is "gay marriage," then tomorrow it will be polygamy, and the day after tomorrow incest, and then the final frontier ... bestiality."
Perversion du jour? I'll go out on a limb that gay people might find that terminology and equating gay marriage with bestiality pretty loathsome.
"Everyone has to pretend that this will be the end of it. You will be hounded by the PC Police if you state the obvious, that if the perversion du jour is "gay marriage," then tomorrow it will be polygamy, and the day after tomorrow incest, and then the final frontier ... bestiality."
Perversion du jour? I'll go out on a limb that gay people might find that terminology and equating gay marriage with bestiality pretty loathsome.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
In response to: Imus and Howie Carr- Dumb and Dumbest
Funny, that's how I felt when I saw "thenceforth".
Democrant [Member]
In response to: 1967, Tony C. and Me
In response to: 1967, Tony C. and Me
Tony C. was one of those that leaned over the plate, but his stats don't show him as being someone that was hit frequently, only 5 per season from 64-67. We know from the video that he barely made an attempt to get out of the way of that pitch, for whatever reason.
Jack Tatum's hit on Stingley was celebrated on the field by Tatum and George Atkinson at the time. What was Tatum's book,"They Call Me Assassin" ? That said, ferocious hits are still celebrated in the NFL, as long as the person taking the hit isn't seriously hurt. Chris Berman on ESPN does a bit on their pregame show of the biggest hits of the weekend, as they yell over the video- "he got jacked up!". The only surprise in the NFL is there aren't more severe injuries like Stingley's.
Jack Tatum's hit on Stingley was celebrated on the field by Tatum and George Atkinson at the time. What was Tatum's book,"They Call Me Assassin" ? That said, ferocious hits are still celebrated in the NFL, as long as the person taking the hit isn't seriously hurt. Chris Berman on ESPN does a bit on their pregame show of the biggest hits of the weekend, as they yell over the video- "he got jacked up!". The only surprise in the NFL is there aren't more severe injuries like Stingley's.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cape Coffee
In response to: Cape Coffee
Let us sing the praises of the non-chains... add the Hole In One in Orleans to your list of places that provide a donut like, oh my lordy I'm gonna say it, the old days. Dunkies donuts are these little microdots now.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Yes, Emma, you can be president
In response to: Yes, Emma, you can be president
Well done Jack. While we may agree or disagree on some things, I've got 2 daughters of my own. To live in a world where any child has the opportunity to reach for the stars is really all we want. How we get there... well, I'm sure we'll discuss that also :).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: The Alliance for Offshore Wind Power -- Anywhere But Here
In response to: The Alliance for Offshore Wind Power -- Anywhere But Here
Mattmesi, you make the point about other sites not being profitable enough. Is this just a general conclusion that was reached, or is there some sort of documentation on this. Part of my concern is not whether there are turbines in the Sound, but rather what value should be placed upon this. The actual amount of energy created by the project is fairly miniscule, albeit a start. What is it worth to a developer, any developer, to be given access to this public resource?
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Another potential opening
In response to: Another potential opening
If the newly drawn district election takes place in 2012 as one would expect, that aids the Dems. Turnout on the Cape has been higher and more Democratic in presidential years than the off-years.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Tale Of Two Murrays: Sen. Therese Murray—Poised To Most Powerful Woman In Massachusetts Politics
In response to: Tale Of Two Murrays: Sen. Therese Murray—Poised To Most Powerful Woman In Massachusetts Politics
Nice work, Obie.
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
Buzz, of course the other way to look at it is not that I am saying anything particular earth shattering, rather those that set the bar so low.
Aaron, so the Green Party is for promoting open-mindedness.... you mean like their positions on gay marriage, a woman's right to choose, taxation policies? OK, so that leaves the environment and animal rights, a couple of topics that I don't know anyone that is against those. Curiouser and curiouser....
Aaron, so the Green Party is for promoting open-mindedness.... you mean like their positions on gay marriage, a woman's right to choose, taxation policies? OK, so that leaves the environment and animal rights, a couple of topics that I don't know anyone that is against those. Curiouser and curiouser....
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
Jeez Aaron, if you want to talk pork barrel, you really need to start under the GOP controlled Congress until this year.
Buzz, I wouldn't expect you to do anything other than focus on tangential, irrelevant matters, versus being able to discuss things like the budget or whether cities and towns should be able to raise taxes by some means other than the repressive property tax. The sheeples have spoken!
Buzz, I wouldn't expect you to do anything other than focus on tangential, irrelevant matters, versus being able to discuss things like the budget or whether cities and towns should be able to raise taxes by some means other than the repressive property tax. The sheeples have spoken!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
I guess Cape Cod Republican clearly doesn't know what a socialist is, as that Green Party Mr Maloy is flirting with goes waaaaaay past anything in the Dem platform. Indeed, CCR, I would encourage potential Green Party members to be in the GOP. That's good entertainment!
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
In response to: Cynthia Stead's RAMPAGE
Let me think... Aaron, who has flirted with the Green Party, whose platform is pro-gay marriage, pro-choice and calls for things like unilateral disarmament, calls Cynthia a liberal Republican. I must have missed a step here ;).
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Is Ann Coulter An Asset to the Republican Party?
In response to: Is Ann Coulter An Asset to the Republican Party?
To the point of Edwards allegedly "gay bashing" let's go to the transcript, IFILL (to Cheney): I want to read something you said four years ago at this very setting: "Freedom means freedom for everybody." You said it again recently when you were asked about legalizing same-sex unions. And you used your family's experience as a context for your remarks.
Can you describe then your administration's support for a constitutional ban on same-sex unions?
During Edwards time he said:
Now, as to this question, let me say first that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy."
To which the Veep responded:"Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter."
Can you describe then your administration's support for a constitutional ban on same-sex unions?
During Edwards time he said:
Now, as to this question, let me say first that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy."
To which the Veep responded:"Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter."
Democrant [Member]
In response to: Romney's Bigger Problem on the Homefront
In response to: Romney's Bigger Problem on the Homefront
Well you kids have fun with this, I'm at a conference in Orlando, curse be the gods. Gas prices look about th
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